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Qwigglez wrote:Team chemistry trumps talent when talent doesn't work hard.
Ishbia really thought he would come in and outsmart the entire league. I wish we could go back to the time when this guy was still on our team.
Qwigglez wrote:Dr Manute wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Spoiler:
Thunder please -
Would hope the best course of action for the entire league to get their viewership back, is KD going back to OKC. Lebron playing with Steph and Draymond. Suns, of course getting Chet
Suns could easily retool around Booker, Chet, and Dunn... and Beal since no one is taking him right now. Go back to point Book, since Tyus just sits in the corner anyway.
bwgood77 wrote:Slim Charless wrote:BurningHeart wrote:Trade em all. Neither Booker with his empty stats, Durant with his garbage, and Beal with his....literally nothing memorable whatsoever matter at all to this franchise.
None of those players matter. They never have mattered.
Absolutely worthless roster. Mercenary garbage sucks. Boring, soulless crap. Keep Dunn and whatever two or three other new players and get rid of everyone else by the deadline for whatever the **** you can get.
Never wanna see those fools in Suns jerseys ever again.
Beal stays and gets his jersey retired if his NTC leads to us getting a haul this summer for Durant and Booker.
Honestly Beal is would be a good professional humble vet to have around if we were rebuilding. I mean not worth the price, but just saying it wouldn't be all bad if we had some younger cheaper role players, rookie contracts, etc, to have a professional vet around who's been an all star, won playoff series, etc. He seems like a pretty positive guy. He's been pretty positive out there despite all this crap the Suns have Shams slinging around.
Qwigglez wrote:Dr Manute wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Spoiler:
Thunder please -
Would hope the best course of action for the entire league to get their viewership back, is KD going back to OKC. Lebron playing with Steph and Draymond. Suns, of course getting Chet
Suns could easily retool around Booker, Chet, and Dunn... and Beal since no one is taking him right now. Go back to point Book, since Tyus just sits in the corner anyway.
Qwigglez wrote:The biggest hurdle trying to move KD to OKC is matching salaries. The Thunder would have to include 4 players if SGA or Hartenstein is not involved in any deal.
Lugentz Dort, Isaiah Joe, Chet, and Jaylin Williams for KD works according to ESPN trade machine and even on Spotrac. Dort, Joe, Chet, and Wiggins are the Thunder's 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest paid players on the Thunder. If any of those guys are not included, then the Thunder would have to include 5 or more players to get KD, so it makes a deal very unlikely. Though Chet could be replaced with Wiggins and Kenrich Williams, I'm not sure Suns would be swayed enough to make such a deal, nor would the Thunder want to lose 5 players for one IMO.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Dr Manute wrote:
Thunder please -
Would hope the best course of action for the entire league to get their viewership back, is KD going back to OKC. Lebron playing with Steph and Draymond. Suns, of course getting Chet
Suns could easily retool around Booker, Chet, and Dunn... and Beal since no one is taking him right now. Go back to point Book, since Tyus just sits in the corner anyway.
Absolutely agree! And while I don't see any chance they'd give up Chet for KD, I'd still do it and target Hartenstein/ Joe/ Topic/ Dieng/ UTA 25' 1st/ DAL 28' 1st.
Fo-Real wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Can someone actually help me understand this line of thinking here?? How and why would we ever consider trading KD to Washington IF we'd not at least be getting back Sarr AND Coulilaby/ pick/picks?
STOP IT!!
dremill24 wrote:Qwigglez wrote:The biggest hurdle trying to move KD to OKC is matching salaries. The Thunder would have to include 4 players if SGA or Hartenstein is not involved in any deal.
Lugentz Dort, Isaiah Joe, Chet, and Jaylin Williams for KD works according to ESPN trade machine and even on Spotrac. Dort, Joe, Chet, and Wiggins are the Thunder's 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest paid players on the Thunder. If any of those guys are not included, then the Thunder would have to include 5 or more players to get KD, so it makes a deal very unlikely. Though Chet could be replaced with Wiggins and Kenrich Williams, I'm not sure Suns would be swayed enough to make such a deal, nor would the Thunder want to lose 5 players for one IMO.
I think an OKC deal would just be simpler and include Hartenstein (not that I find any of it likely).
Slim Charless wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Slim Charless wrote:
Beal stays and gets his jersey retired if his NTC leads to us getting a haul this summer for Durant and Booker.
Honestly Beal is would be a good professional humble vet to have around if we were rebuilding. I mean not worth the price, but just saying it wouldn't be all bad if we had some younger cheaper role players, rookie contracts, etc, to have a professional vet around who's been an all star, won playoff series, etc. He seems like a pretty positive guy. He's been pretty positive out there despite all this crap the Suns have Shams slinging around.
He's been a true pro and hopefully is still on this team come Friday. He can have a true roll on a rebuild here too as a flame thrower off the bench. Maybe close his career with 6MOTY
matt131 wrote:?s=46
Gambo basically saying a KD trade is possible if the Suns don’t end up with Butler. Interesting.
Qwigglez wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Qwigglez wrote:
Would hope the best course of action for the entire league to get their viewership back, is KD going back to OKC. Lebron playing with Steph and Draymond. Suns, of course getting Chet
Suns could easily retool around Booker, Chet, and Dunn... and Beal since no one is taking him right now. Go back to point Book, since Tyus just sits in the corner anyway.
Absolutely agree! And while I don't see any chance they'd give up Chet for KD, I'd still do it and target Hartenstein/ Joe/ Topic/ Dieng/ UTA 25' 1st/ DAL 28' 1st.
You think OKC would give up Hartenstein? He missed the first 15 games of the season, and then additional 5 games recently. But he's been an absolute stud for OKC, averaging 11.5, 12.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists, and almost a steal, and 1.2 blocks per game.
I know it's Chet Holmgren, but SGA is 26 years old, and the Thunder have been rolling without em. I just wouldn't say no to the idea is all, even though many believe Chet could be untouchable, I'd say his injury history could be a concern.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Absolutely agree! And while I don't see any chance they'd give up Chet for KD, I'd still do it and target Hartenstein/ Joe/ Topic/ Dieng/ UTA 25' 1st/ DAL 28' 1st.
You think OKC would give up Hartenstein? He missed the first 15 games of the season, and then additional 5 games recently. But he's been an absolute stud for OKC, averaging 11.5, 12.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists, and almost a steal, and 1.2 blocks per game.
I know it's Chet Holmgren, but SGA is 26 years old, and the Thunder have been rolling without em. I just wouldn't say no to the idea is all, even though many believe Chet could be untouchable, I'd say his injury history could be a concern.
He's much more likely than them giving up Chet of all players man for a 1-2 yr rental of KD to have a great shot at a championship! They'll need the big salary filler for matching purposes rather than gutting their roster. So yes, I think they'd do that in a KD trade. I mean they're getting KD which would all but guarantee them a championship as currently constructed.
But they're clearly not stupid either. Again realizing that their maximum window with KD is at best 1-2 more years tops! They'll prioritize keeping as much of their promising young core together around Shai as possible. And let's be honest, it's really not that difficult to get a quality center nowadays if you're willing to give up picks! And OKC has a ton of them to burn!
Slim Charless wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Qwigglez wrote:
You think OKC would give up Hartenstein? He missed the first 15 games of the season, and then additional 5 games recently. But he's been an absolute stud for OKC, averaging 11.5, 12.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists, and almost a steal, and 1.2 blocks per game.
I know it's Chet Holmgren, but SGA is 26 years old, and the Thunder have been rolling without em. I just wouldn't say no to the idea is all, even though many believe Chet could be untouchable, I'd say his injury history could be a concern.
He's much more likely than them giving up Chet of all players man for a 1-2 yr rental of KD to have a great shot at a championship! They'll need the big salary filler for matching purposes rather than gutting their roster. So yes, I think they'd do that in a KD trade. I mean they're getting KD which would all but guarantee them a championship as currently constructed.
But they're clearly not stupid either. Again realizing that their maximum window with KD is at best 1-2 more years tops! They'll prioritize keeping as much of their promising young core together around Shai as possible. And let's be honest, it's really not that difficult to get a quality center nowadays if you're willing to give up picks! And OKC has a ton of them to burn!
Yeah Quiggz, you're dreaming here.
There's exactly a 0.00% chance OKC gives up Chet for KD. That's just not happening. Maybe Booker. Maybe. lol
Slim Charless wrote:
Yeah Quiggz, you're dreaming here.
There's exactly a 0.00% chance OKC gives up Chet for KD. That's just not happening. Maybe Booker. Maybe. lol
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
No send me to Phoenix lol. They must really know Beal waiving his NTC to Miami
matt131 wrote:?s=46
Gambo basically saying a KD trade is possible if the Suns don’t end up with Butler. Interesting.
