Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA

[Mavrelous]

Then one of Kyrie, KD, AD gets injured and you're done Which happened everytime in the past.

Not advocating for it, but that's the framework

You do realize Suns can only send one Player out as long as they're second apron team...so Mavs would have to send Klay/Naji/PJ/Gafford+ probably one or two firsts for KD...if Nico does this it he's an even bigger egomaniac/idiot than I thought

Min players are exluded from this, they count as separate deals.

[joesha1698]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

[BliscoSantos]

Not advocating for it, but that's the framework

You do realize Suns can only send one Player out as long as they're second apron team...so Mavs would have to send Klay/Naji/PJ/Gafford+ probably one or two firsts for KD...if Nico does this it he's an even bigger egomaniac/idiot than I thought

Min players are exluded from this, they count as separate deals.

Spotrac trade machine still won't let the trade go though...maybe I'm doing something wrong... that's really not the Point,the Point is that would be a dumb trade...but we are talking about Nico so I Guess it's possible

[BliscoSantos]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

[41Dirk41]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

That guy is clearly a Mavs hater (other than a Luka hater), he want our destruction and all of his posts are directed to that.

Probably he is Nico with a fake account, the topic about "Luka didn't want to stay here" it's quite significant.

They should have banned him months ago.

[BliscoSantos]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

That guy is clearly a Mavs hater (other than a Luka hater), he want our destruction and all of his posts are directed to that.

Probably he is Nico with a fake account, the topic about "Luka didn't want to stay here" it's quite significant.

They should have banned him months ago.

Funny,was Just thinking the same thing ...that it might be Nico
Reports around the league are Nico has no desire to do this job longterm ...he really has no reason to care what will be down the line

[41Dirk41]

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

That guy is clearly a Mavs hater (other than a Luka hater), he want our destruction and all of his posts are directed to that.

Probably he is Nico with a fake account, the topic about "Luka didn't want to stay here" it's quite significant.

They should have banned him months ago.

Funny,was Just thinking the same thing ...that it might be Nico
Reports around the league are Nico has no desire to do this job longterm ...he really has no reason to care what will be down the line

I see Nico Harrison new mod here next years...

Wait. In the Lakers board obviously.

[joesha1698]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

We already traded away the future with Luka so what's left? How is trading Gafford and PJ (who are expiring deals after this year) change anything for the long term? It's not like Klay and Gafford are in our long term plans. Now, PJ might be - do those guys give us a best chance of winning a ring in the next 2 years? I wouldn't mortgage the future for KD at 36. However, I also don't think old Klay, PJ, and Gafford and maybe a 1st round pick is mortgaging the future if we keep Lively and Christie.

We need need one more scorer/ball handler/playmaker to make up for Luka's lost and take some pressure off Kyrie. Whether we do it now or in the off-season, its a need. Question for you, do you think the Mavs are gonna re-sign PJ and Gafford or something? I don't think their resigning Gafford and its possible they re-sign PJ but its not 100% g-teed.

Now I would also settle for us adding another guard/ball handler not name KD with us keeping our core in-tact. I would love to keep Gafford/Klay/and PJ and add a guy like this w/o giving up our core. I would be okay with that as well. But if KD is available, I would consider it.

No Nico. Just me. And if I was Nico, I would be looking for ideas.

[BliscoSantos]

If he trades for KD its because it fits the time line that the ownership want b/c they bought the team to legalize gambling..which explain the Luka trade, imo. Best explanation I heard so far. Once again if Luka was in shape and played this year - I do not think they could justify trading him. They probably would have still tried in the off-season.

So, if you're gonna trade Luka, you might as well go all out. Who gives you the best chance to win this year and the next 2 years? PJ/Klay/Naji/Gafford or KD? I doubt we hold onto PJ and Gafford for the long term anyway. I'm assuming you try to keep Lively and try to move Hardy + Powell for another big. Honestly I think with the contract situation coming up for Gafford + PJ - I would take my chances and bring in KD for the next one - two years. I'm not sure if we have flexible for the buyout market but their looks to be some action there. We would need to bring in a center with some size as a starter and then backup later.

Lets see
Kyrie Irving
Max Christie
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Lively (when healthy)

Exum / Dinwiddie
Caleb Martin / Dinwiddie
Prosper / Edwards

I'll take my chances with this team. Especially having a big man inside like AD.

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

We already traded away the future with Luka so what's left? How is trading Gafford and PJ (who are expiring deals after this year) change anything for the long term? It's not like Klay and Gafford are in our long term plans. Now, PJ might be - do those guys give us a best chance of winning a ring in the next 2 years? I wouldn't mortgage the future for KD at 36. However, I also don't think old Klay, PJ, and Gafford and maybe a 1st round pick is mortgaging the future if we keep Lively and Christie.

We need need one more scorer/ball handler/playmaker to make up for Luka's lost and take some pressure off Kyrie. Whether we do it now or in the off-season, its a need. Question for you, do you think the Mavs are gonna re-sign PJ and Gafford or something? I don't think their resigning Gafford and its possible they re-sign PJ but its not 100% g-teed.

Now I would also settle for us adding another guard/ball handler not name KD with us keeping our core in-tact. I would love to keep Gafford/Klay/and PJ and add a guy like this w/o giving up our core. I would be okay with that as well. But if KD is available, I would consider it.

No Nico. Just me. And if I was Nico, I would be looking for ideas.

You do realize that it's better to have depth than to Play Kyrie ,AD and KD 40+ minutes a game? Which they will have to,cause the rest of the roster will be trash
How long do you think they'd be able to carry that load,before one(maybe more) of them go down with the injury...and then what??

[joesha1698]

Wow,we really are creatures of the moment...Mavs are already in trouble in 3 years and now you wanna give away the only valuable pisces left for 36 year old KD?? I guess what happened to the Nets and Suns wasn't lesson enough,even though we used to mock those teams...at least the Nets have a future because of the picks they collected....meanwhile Suns are screwed, they're gonna have to trade Booker in the future...Mavs with KD,AD and Kyrie have no future in 2-3 years... you're not gonna be able to recoup any assets for them cause they'll be older...you'll be left to rot at the bottom of the league with no Young Players(cause you gave all the picks away) and no FA willing to come (at least not the stars) cause you'll be left with nothing to build a good team

We already traded away the future with Luka so what's left? How is trading Gafford and PJ (who are expiring deals after this year) change anything for the long term? It's not like Klay and Gafford are in our long term plans. Now, PJ might be - do those guys give us a best chance of winning a ring in the next 2 years? I wouldn't mortgage the future for KD at 36. However, I also don't think old Klay, PJ, and Gafford and maybe a 1st round pick is mortgaging the future if we keep Lively and Christie.

We need need one more scorer/ball handler/playmaker to make up for Luka's lost and take some pressure off Kyrie. Whether we do it now or in the off-season, its a need. Question for you, do you think the Mavs are gonna re-sign PJ and Gafford or something? I don't think their resigning Gafford and its possible they re-sign PJ but its not 100% g-teed.

Now I would also settle for us adding another guard/ball handler not name KD with us keeping our core in-tact. I would love to keep Gafford/Klay/and PJ and add a guy like this w/o giving up our core. I would be okay with that as well. But if KD is available, I would consider it.

No Nico. Just me. And if I was Nico, I would be looking for ideas.

You do realize that it's better to have depth than to Play Kyrie ,AD and KD 40+ minutes a game? Which they will have to,cause the rest of the roster will be trash
How long do you think they'd be able to carry that load,before one(maybe more) of them go down with the injury...and then what??

I would consider it but would prefer to keep the core. So, i agree with you overall. I'm not sure Martin will be enough and i'm not sold on Exum, Dinwiddie, and PJ as our starting SF. I would like to either add another SF (good defender and better shooter) or add a ball handler with size (6'5 or above) that can start in the backcourt with Kyrie and guard the 1-3 position. I would be willing to move Jaden, Naji, and fillers to do it.

[joesha1698]

I would admit, sometimes I needs to be talked down. No shame in that. It's hard to say no to a 7 foot unicorn. Just saying.

[41Dirk41]

Keep trolling.

No mods have guts to kick you on the moon.

[joesha1698]

Keep trolling.

No mods have guts to kick you on the moon.

What is wrong with you? You smart but you lack social skills, boooy. Now gon with that bull...

Calling someone a troll with Powell's face, i can't take you serious.

[Jg41]

LA can get Turner or Kessler for way less.

I disagree. There’s no way Ainge gives them Kessler without requiring their ‘31st, and even if Indiana is willing to part with Turner, he’s an inferior (and older 5) for a Luka oriented team compared to Gafford. Not nearly the roller or rebounder. You’re also overlooking the fact that they coveted Klay this summer and likely still do.

Try contributing something constructive for once guy.

Are you joking? You said LA should gave away 2031 first and 3 solid players on very friendly contracts for Gafford and Klay, Din and Powell doesn't matter at all. Hayes is better than Powell. Reaves is on a fantastic deal and better than Klay. Knech is a rookie playing fantastic. They're both worth more than Klay. Hachimura is playing well too. Mavs are on the clock with stupid trade, LA aren't. They can easily add some cheap C and wait how the season go, making bigger deals in the summer.

Your proposal makes no sense for LA or Portland. Change Gafford to Lively and a deal might have some sense for LA. Nobody is prepared to pay that much for Gafford.

Nico should have taken that 2031 pick and Reaves from LA in Luka deal.

Your player/pick evaluation skills are as bad as Nico’s. Knecht / Unprotected ‘31 / + a swap for a center a full tier below Gafford. Exposed

[Bob8]

I disagree. There’s no way Ainge gives them Kessler without requiring their ‘31st, and even if Indiana is willing to part with Turner, he’s an inferior (and older 5) for a Luka oriented team compared to Gafford. Not nearly the roller or rebounder. You’re also overlooking the fact that they coveted Klay this summer and likely still do.

Try contributing something constructive for once guy.

Are you joking? You said LA should gave away 2031 first and 3 solid players on very friendly contracts for Gafford and Klay, Din and Powell doesn't matter at all. Hayes is better than Powell. Reaves is on a fantastic deal and better than Klay. Knech is a rookie playing fantastic. They're both worth more than Klay. Hachimura is playing well too. Mavs are on the clock with stupid trade, LA aren't. They can easily add some cheap C and wait how the season go, making bigger deals in the summer.

Your proposal makes no sense for LA or Portland. Change Gafford to Lively and a deal might have some sense for LA. Nobody is prepared to pay that much for Gafford.

Nico should have taken that 2031 pick and Reaves from LA in Luka deal.

Your player/pick evaluation skills are as bad as Nico’s. Knecht / Unprotected ‘31 / + a swap for a center a full tier below Gafford. Exposed

I6/10/2.5 and 23 years old and he will get Luka and LeBron to pass him numerous lobs. I believe you might have same problems as Nico, age matters in Nba. And they still have Reaves and Hachimura. Or maybe you believe that Gafford is better than Lively too? Or take on deal from different prospective. They got Luka and Williams for AD, who they didn't want to give new contract anyway, and 2 FRP and a swap, which basically is not important, with Luka there.

This deal mostly shows Luka that LA is serious for competing from the first minute with him. Mavs needed 5 years to build a team around him. LA first priority is for Luka to sign new contract with them. And that trade is pretty solid step there.

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[wco81]

Luka supposedly told the Lakers that he needs a lob threat.

For all the PnR from the elbow or near the top of the key.

They give up a good young shooter so Luka prefers the easy lob assists over kicking out and shooting an open 3.

That is how Dallas got to the Finals last season, PJ Washington shooting the lights out from the corner until the Finals and to a lesser extent DJJ also shot well on open catch and shoot 3s.

[41Dirk41]

Lakers traded for a start C thanks to Nico **** Harrison discount. That's insane.

Fraud. I'm just waiting for your moment... I hope for you that your bodyguards are good.

[Bob8]

Lakers traded for a start C thanks to Nico **** Harrison discount. That's insane.

Fraud. I'm just waiting for your moment... I hope for you that your bodyguards are good.

Yes, Lakers should put a statue of Nico before their gym. Vegas betting odds on Lakers winning the ring went from +4.4000 to +1.000 in just few days. Mavs, who made the Luka trade to win it now, from +2.000 to +3.000. Great job Nico.

[Maverick41]

Hilarious how Mark Williams got more picks then Luka. Williams is VERY good but problem is health. If he can somehow be healthy for a PO run, Lakers could seriously be contenders. If Lakers somehow win a chip this year, Nico needs to be fired. If not, just resign as there's no way he can walk around Dallas unscathed at that point.

[Mavrelous]

A drop coverage big without shooting range and big injury risk, I'm sad, I want Luka to win, this deal doesn't help...