Game 52 Rockets (32-18) @ Wolves (28-23)
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It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
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Great win really. Ant was huge, Mike clutch, Clark is fantastic in defense and if he can score..... the second half we did not let them score much... still got the feeling that we play much better without Randle and with Naz starting. Was smart to take a day off to watch this one as well .Go Wolves!
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Nick K wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:Nick K wrote:
I might fall for your argument, but if it were that cut and dried, he wouldn't be on this roster for the last 3 years. The coaches see him every day and they know what he can do. I'll take their word for it. The staff love Garza. So who am I to believe? Sorry BlacJac.
you remind me of a guy I know named Levine. Regards.
He’s super cheap, a great teammate and never complains about not playing. Of course they love him!
He’s a great 15th man as long as you don’t have to play him in any role beyond “human victory cigar”.
I love the humor!
It’s funny because it’s true.
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Andres Guibert and who else?winforlose wrote:Ant is the 3rd Wolf in franchise history to have back to back 40 point games.
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Injuries have forced Finch into some different lineup combinations. While everyone is wasting energy on Garza who won't be in the rotation once we're healthy, I'm seeing Finch's confidence grow in the young guys. I am absolutely loving some of the defensive sub-lineups we can get to, including ones with all of McDaniels, Alexander-Walker and Clark on the floor.
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Naz with an off shooting night still fills the boxscore (15PT. 11RB. 4AS, 2ST, 2BL, +25). It's hard to see how he goes back to the bench.
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winforlose wrote:Nick K wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:
He’s super cheap, a great teammate and never complains about not playing. Of course they love him!
He’s a great 15th man as long as you don’t have to play him in any role beyond “human victory cigar”.
I love the humor!
It’s funny because it’s true.
And that's fine. Some franchises don't care about locker room chemistry. Minnesota does.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
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wolves_89 wrote:It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
Two words… HELL NO!
We have 14 players. If we convert Clark that shortens our control for a year, prevents us from signing a backup C, prevents us from signing another PG, and costs Millions in tax.
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Great win by the guys tonight. Ant has been almost unstoppable at times.
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That was a good win.
I wish we could show that grit more often
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I wish we could show that grit more often
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winforlose wrote:wolves_89 wrote:It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
Two words… HELL NO!
We have 14 players. If we convert Clark that shortens our control for a year, prevents us from signing a backup C, prevents us from signing another PG, and costs Millions in tax.
This is the only real reason here that I see us maybe not doing it. But then, if you're worried about it preventing the team from signing someone else, there's obviously not too much concern about the tax after all.
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winforlose wrote:wolves_89 wrote:It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
Two words… HELL NO!
We have 14 players. If we convert Clark that shortens our control for a year, prevents us from signing a backup C, prevents us from signing another PG, and costs Millions in tax.
If we sign him now he likely gets the standard minimum contract. If he continues to play well and we don't sign him, he becomes a restricted free agent in the offseason and has a real chance of getting offers that are a fair bit higher.
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Rookie-Mistake wrote:That was a good win.
I wish we could show that grit more often
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Ant went hero mode, but this time was somewhat in the flow of offense. Great job by Mike in the late fourth. Jaden and Naz had bad games, the rookies stepped up (hot hand Clark for bench MVP,) and we got a good team win with a preview of playoff mode Ant!
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Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:Nick K wrote:
I love the humor!
It’s funny because it’s true.
And that's fine. Some franchises don't care about locker room chemistry. Minnesota does.
And no one is saying to cut him.
Just not to play him in any leveraged situations…
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Nick K wrote:WolfAddict wrote:Nick K wrote:
I might fall for your argument, but if it were that cut and dried, he wouldn't be on this roster for the last 3 years. The coaches see him every day and they know what he can do. I'll take their word for it. The staff love Garza. So who am I to believe? Sorry BlacJac.
Given some of the weird **** we've seen this season from our coaching staff, the fact you put THIS much faith into their decision making is strange.
Coaches can be blinded by their personal feelings toward a player, which is what I think is the case with Garza - From all reports he's a dream to have in the locker room and is a genuinely nice guy. Finch loves him, but that doesn't prove either way if he is good enough to be given minutes. But our eyes do seem to point to the "he just isn't good enough" side of it.
The problem is your eyes don't count for me as much as the coaches eyes do. Respectfully.
In the end you might be right. I just want to see how it plays out and give him every chance.
BTW, the game tonight is one of the best I've seen all year. Wolves have played great down the stretch like good teams do for a change. I am heartened by our performance tonight. Houston is a good club.
And that's completely understandable and don't blame you - But you also need to be aware that there are a number of us who just aren't that trusting of the coaching staff given some the decisions made.
EDIT: Was a brilliant end - Getting the win against HOU was not something I imagined happening
EDIT2: Garza had 2 mins... He definitely wasn't trusted tonight
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BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:
It’s funny because it’s true.
And that's fine. Some franchises don't care about locker room chemistry. Minnesota does.
And no one is saying to cut him.
Just not to play him in any leveraged situations…
Quite a few people have whined about the fact that he is on the roster
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wolves_89 wrote:winforlose wrote:wolves_89 wrote:It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
Two words… HELL NO!
We have 14 players. If we convert Clark that shortens our control for a year, prevents us from signing a backup C, prevents us from signing another PG, and costs Millions in tax.
If we sign him now he likely gets the standard minimum contract. If he continues to play well and we don't sign him, he becomes a restricted free agent in the offseason and has a real chance of getting offers that are a fair bit higher.
Highly unlikely. He was shooting 9 of 23 on the season and 3 of 10 from deep before tonight. Josh Okogie was a minimum player and he had 5 years of proven defense, Clark has 5 games. For a team to tie up real money knowing we can match is unlikely.
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BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:
It’s funny because it’s true.
And that's fine. Some franchises don't care about locker room chemistry. Minnesota does.
And no one is saying to cut him.
Just not to play him in any leveraged situations…
Or any situation. Play Miller. I don’t see us bringing Garza back do solely to roster limitations. Miller on the other hand is in the future plans.
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Klomp wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:Klomp wrote:And that's fine. Some franchises don't care about locker room chemistry. Minnesota does.
And no one is saying to cut him.
Just not to play him in any leveraged situations…
Quite a few people have whined about the fact that he is on the roster
Mostly after he’s played…
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Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:wolves_89 wrote:It might be a good time to convert Clark to a regular contract.
Two words… HELL NO!
We have 14 players. If we convert Clark that shortens our control for a year, prevents us from signing a backup C, prevents us from signing another PG, and costs Millions in tax.
This is the only real reason here that I see us maybe not doing it. But then, if you're worried about it preventing the team from signing someone else, there's obviously not too much concern about the tax after all.
One other thought, if we want Clark available for postseason games he has to be on a regular contract.
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