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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#521 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:37 pm

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Dalek wrote:The more I understand the type of person and player Carter Bryant is the more impressed I am.

Highly ranked high schooler who goes to Arizona and becomes a role player. He averages a block and steal and is big time athlete with the makings of a set jump shot and is a smart passer. Reminds me of Shawn Marion - his film pops.



Raps value high character, high IQ team first guys. This guy learned sign language to communicate with his grand parents and do deaf b-ball camps.

Even if his numbers aren't noteworthy he is a guy who can develop in the system much like JaKobe who also had an up and down college career.

https://www.kvoa.com/news/carter-bryants-journey-to-arizona-basketball/article_7cdd97a0-d2ea-11ef-8646-6be042d66469.html

Yah I absolutely love Carter, he's made it up into my personal top 10 and I think there's a really good chance he's a lottery pick come June. I love the Shawn Marion shout, he also reminds me a lot of Trey Murphy for a more current comp.

His on-court play is what really pops, but I was surprised to find that he pops quite a bit statistically too. I thought being confined to the bench in Arizona would hamper his advanced stats, but he shines there too. This is every Freshman since '08 to put up a DBPM ≥ 5, and a OPBM ≥ 0, and their draft position that year (DnD for those who Did Not Declare after their freshman season):

    Anthony Davis [1st]
    Nerlens Noel [6th]
    Chet Holmgren [2nd]
    Karl-Anthony Towns [1st]
    Jaren Jackson Jr. [6th]
    Dereck Lively [10th]
    Joel Embiid [3rd]
    Flory Bidunga
    Cooper Flagg
    Zion Williamson [1st]
    Zach Collins [10th]
    Marcus Smart [6th]
    Tyler Tanner
    Isaiah Jackson [22nd]
    Myles Turner [11th]
    Mo Bamba [6th]
    Evan Mobley [3rd]
    Carter Bryant
    Tyreke Evans [4th]
    Tamin Lipsey [DnD]
    Aaron Craft [DnD]
    Jordan Bell [DnD]
    Mikal Bridges [DnD]
    Jaxson Hayes [8th]

There's more 1st overall picks than guys taken outside of the Top 10 on this list, if Carter maintains his play I think he ends up in the Top 10.

Bidunga is also a guy to keep an eye on IMO, his play has been even more inconsistent than Bryant's but he's an absolutely defensive menace anytime he steps on the court, and if Kansas has a good run from now through March, I think he's a solid late lottery/top 20 guy.


Carter is definitely a highly appealing player when you realize his college FT% appears to be an anomaly. Do I wish he had a better than neutral ast:to and lower foul rate? Yes.

But he passes the eye test as much as anyone and is an absolute dunk machine and has real shooting touch. The defensive potential is very good and he plays a premium position, high character and nasty attitude at times.

Easily one of the top wings available.
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Post#522 » by dballislife » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:40 pm

i do like cmb a bit, hes like an older flagg without the shooting, a flagg that cant shoot if still a dam good prospect

i remember scouts and posters trashing on dunn's shot and few month later hes hitting nba 3s, not at a good rate but very solid for a kid who never shot 3s before

young prospects can improve their nba skills...cmb with a decent 3 ball has star potential...i mean if cmb shot even a solid .350 from 3 in college he would be picked top 5 in the draft
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Post#523 » by dballislife » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:57 pm

i also like carter bryant, imagine ochai with 2 more inches and 10 more pounds of muscle...he doesn't show any dribbling, passing, or any advanced skills yet...but a big wing defender that can shoot the 3 prospect is who we need and he sounds like im describing og
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Post#524 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:56 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Carter is definitely a highly appealing player when you realize his college FT% appears to be an anomaly. Do I wish he had a better than neutral ast:to and lower foul rate? Yes.

But he passes the eye test as much as anyone and is an absolute dunk machine and has real shooting touch. The defensive potential is very good and he plays a premium position, high character and nasty attitude at times.

Easily one of the top wings available.


dballislife wrote:i also like carter bryant, imagine ochai with 2 more inches and 10 more pounds of muscle...he doesn't show any dribbling, passing, or any advanced skills yet...but a big wing defender that can shoot the 3 prospect is who we need and he sounds like im describing og


He's more like Andrew Wiggins. He should be a 1st round pick with his good size for a wing. Maybe get into the mid teens. I'd take him over Ben Saraf and Hugo Gonzalez, also even Kon and McNeeley.

I think his floor would be a 6'8 Josh Green or shoter Matas Buzelis. He feels like a taller Demar Derozan raw prospect with more defensive potential due to size.
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Post#525 » by TorontoRapsFan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:13 pm

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If they get #2 trade it for KD and #30.

#2, Poeltl, Dick, Agbaji, Barrett and 2027 1st pick for KD, Nik Richards and #30.



Are you really a Suns fan?

This might be the worst trade I have seen in my entire life


#2, Poeltl, Dick and Barrett for KD, Nik Richards and #30.

PG IQ - Shead/Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe
SF Durant Agbaji - Battle
PF Scottie - Mogbo - #30
C Richards - #39 - Chomche


Would you do this if Flagg is there at 2? Forget the rest of the trade. I mean just prospect for Durant. Personally I wouldn't trade Ace Bailey or Flagg for any of the mid 30s superstars.
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Post#526 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:31 pm

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Psubs wrote:
arbsn wrote:

Are you really a Suns fan?

This might be the worst trade I have seen in my entire life


#2, Poeltl, Dick and Barrett for KD, Nik Richards and #30.

PG IQ - Shead/Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe
SF Durant Agbaji - Battle
PF Scottie - Mogbo - #30
C Richards - #39 - Chomche


Would you do this if Flagg is there at 2? Forget the rest of the trade. I mean just prospect for Durant. Personally I wouldn't trade Ace Bailey or Flagg for any of the mid 30s superstars.


Flagg is the clear exception and he is going #1 like Wemby did.


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/buaSYojBYD8

Smoother than Ace. He just needs to keep getting shots like Porzingis would've. He's up to 45.1% from 3.

Also Rasheer Fleming is up to 42.6% from 3. :nod:
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Post#527 » by TNRaps4life » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:53 pm

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Post#528 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:11 am

TNRaps4life wrote:https://www.youtube.com/live/m5AwdI6OE6U


#6 McNeeley :o

I think #8 CMB and #9 Ben Saraf :o

#13 Fleming 8-)

#17 Queen

Jeremiah Fears in 12 games of SEC conference play has a BPM of negative 1.8 :-?
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Post#529 » by Mark_83 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:19 am

dballislife wrote:i also like carter bryant, imagine ochai with 2 more inches and 10 more pounds of muscle...he doesn't show any dribbling, passing, or any advanced skills yet...but a big wing defender that can shoot the 3 prospect is who we need and he sounds like im describing og

I've been pumping this guy since last summer. Not sure he he'll come out this year unless he picks up helium in workouts. Arizona hasn't given him enough minutes to show his game, but he's a do-it-all wing an lottery level talent.
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Post#530 » by Mark_83 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:22 am

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Carter is definitely a highly appealing player when you realize his college FT% appears to be an anomaly. Do I wish he had a better than neutral ast:to and lower foul rate? Yes.

But he passes the eye test as much as anyone and is an absolute dunk machine and has real shooting touch. The defensive potential is very good and he plays a premium position, high character and nasty attitude at times.

Easily one of the top wings available.


dballislife wrote:i also like carter bryant, imagine ochai with 2 more inches and 10 more pounds of muscle...he doesn't show any dribbling, passing, or any advanced skills yet...but a big wing defender that can shoot the 3 prospect is who we need and he sounds like im describing og


He's more like Andrew Wiggins. He should be a 1st round pick with his good size for a wing. Maybe get into the mid teens. I'd take him over Ben Saraf and Hugo Gonzalez, also even Kon and McNeeley.

I think his floor would be a 6'8 Josh Green or shoter Matas Buzelis. He feels like a taller Demar Derozan raw prospect with more defensive potential due to size.

He reminds me most of a Patrick Williams, for both good and bad reasons. But I see more good than bad with the right development.



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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#531 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:38 am

Growing on me a bit...

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#532 » by TNRaps4life » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:32 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Growing on me a bit...

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I was just going to post this. He is moving to my top 5.
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Post#533 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:36 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Growing on me a bit...

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I was just going to post this. He is moving to my top 5.


Could fill the void left by Boucher.
Our backup 4 for next season?
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Post#534 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:45 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Growing on me a bit...

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I was just going to post this. He is moving to my top 5.


Iowa's tallest players were also 6'8. Not going to see that in the NBA.
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Post#535 » by XTC » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:01 am

Psubs wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Growing on me a bit...

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I was just going to post this. He is moving to my top 5.


Iowa's tallest players were also 6'8. Not going to see that in the NBA.


Im waiting to see how he measures.

If he has legit center length, he's going top 10 IMO. I'm not holding my breath, because it does seem like he has short arms.
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Post#536 » by mtcan » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:03 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Growing on me a bit...

Read on Twitter

I enjoy watching him play. He's just crafty.
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Post#537 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:06 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
Kaman
CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.
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Post#538 » by dballislife » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:10 am

im a little mixed with queen, hes everything i want in a center on o, but hes also everything i dont want in a center on d

queen, rj, ingram, dick, and quickley...i mean jeeze scottie would need to win DPOY every year for us to have a chance
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Post#539 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:21 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
Kaman
CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.


The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.
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Post#540 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:26 am

Psubs wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
Kaman
CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.


The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.

What’s wrong with Mogbo? It’s half way through his rookie season. Some of y’all need to relax. If he’s not producing into year 3 onward then we can discuss how we don’t want another Mogbo
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