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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#541 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:18 am

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The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.

What’s wrong with Mogbo? It’s half way through his rookie season. Some of y’all need to relax. If he’s not producing into year 3 onward then we can discuss how we don’t want another Mogbo


I don't see Mogbo becoming a starter and don't need another player like that with the early pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#542 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:23 am

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The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.

What’s wrong with Mogbo? It’s half way through his rookie season. Some of y’all need to relax. If he’s not producing into year 3 onward then we can discuss how we don’t want another Mogbo


I don't see Mogbo becoming a starter and don't need another player like that with the early pick.

Why would we take a 23-24 year old with a top 10 pick? Mogbo was a second rounder for a reason. Temper your expectations, and be patient.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#543 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:59 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
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CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.


The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.


I would take multiple Mogbo type players. I don't hate the Rasheer Fleming idea though. He seems more like a trade down candidate for middle of first round.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#544 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:19 am

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Tre
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CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.


The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.


I would take multiple Mogbo type players. I don't hate the Rasheer Fleming idea though. He seems more like a trade down candidate for middle of first round.


It's admittedly a slight gamble, but considering our great depth at SG (RJ, JaKobe & Gradey), I'd actually try to trade BACK IN (vs down) using Ochai to get Fleming, we're not gonna be able to afford to bring him back and it's not the wisest use of money considering the depth there. But the hope that is RF can essentially play a similar role at a greater position of need ie/ forward positions but he'd also be more versatile considering the BIG increase in size (pause) and he'd hopefully make up a lot of what we lost when we traded OG away but Rasheer is literally 2 inches taller/longer (double pause).

I'd absolutely love if our FO found a way to get back in the draft to grab him and really fill out our depth at all positions and/or add some much needed size to compete with teams like CLE, BOS, ORL, MIL and even NYK when Mitch gets healthy etc. To get through that gauntlet this team needs to add some bigger bodies asap.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#545 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:37 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
Kaman
CMB
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Ya the top 3 guys im gonna be lased focused on in the coming months are Tre, Khaman, and Queen.

Khaman has been in and out of my top 5 all season long but I remain very high on him. He tailed off a bit but has picked it up back recently. Like how he's starting to attempt 3s? Not sure why Duke would wait this late into the season to give him the green light but I wonder if we see it in the tourney.

Tre and Queen are big time question marks for me.... Tre has a lot of boom or bust potential, but lately I've been feeling like maybe his floor is still a decent combo guard off the bench? Queen... I've been low on all season but since his performance versus the Rutgets, I started to give him his due and he's been delivering since.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#546 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:27 am

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S.W.A.N wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.



Tre
Kaman
CMB
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Ya the top 3 guys im gonna be lased focused on in the coming months are Tre, Khaman, and Queen.

Khaman has been in and out of my top 5 all season long but I remain very high on him. He tailed off a bit but has picked it up back recently. Like how he's starting to attempt 3s? Not sure why Duke would wait this late into the season to give him the green light but I wonder if we see it in the tourney.

Tre and Queen are big time question marks for me.... Tre has a lot of boom or bust potential, but lately I've been feeling like maybe his floor is still a decent combo guard off the bench? Queen... I've been low on all season but since his performance versus the Rutgets, I started to give him his due and he's been delivering since.


Tre is definitely the guy I'm most concerned about.

I really want a high end two way player. Hard to imagine Tre being that... But if his scoring upside is high enough that we draft him I'm going to trust it...

Ya, Queen for me is all about the measurements.

Kaman seems destined to be a raptor. People might hate this comp but a more athletic Yak. Would shore up our C spot for the next 10 years. And would have a perfect mentor in Yak for a couple years.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#547 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:33 pm

Kaman is VERY raw. Like Chomche raw. I wouldn't touch him with a top pick.

From 1-6 I have Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Kap and Johnson in that order. If we fall out of the Top 6, could consider moving down.

I would also consider what Dick could get us in the draft as well. We have too many wings and although I like Dicks shooting, his defence is horrendous and he's due for a payday soon. Would love to get my hands on Fleming, Richardson, Wolf or Sorber later in the first round.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#548 » by Son Goku 25 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:37 pm

I feel like Tre will be one of those scorers that is just that and will be locked down for whatever reason in playoffs unless he's already playing on a good team that needs a 4th option. Don't know if he can be like Booker.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#549 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:39 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:I feel like Tre will be one of those scorers that is just that and will be locked down for whatever reason in playoffs unless he's already playing on a good team that needs a 4th option. Don't know if he can be like Booker.


Could be a taller Bradley Beal putting up 30ppg on a bad team.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#550 » by Psubs » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:53 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:
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Tre
Kaman
CMB

I think the top 5 of this draft are settling into being their own tiers and draft gets real at 6 which is a high probability of where we end up drafting if the lotto gods aren't kind.

Tre absolutely has to show signs of being something other than a scorer.

Kaman just needs to keep improving. Would be nice to see more blocks to finish out the season but he's shown enough to warrant being a top 7 pick.

CMB is the guy I keep coming back to. This team had a top 5 defense for chunks of this season. Adding a high level defender with great feel for the game would be fascinating. I think we could have a lot of success playing Thunder type lineups where we go with guys that are 'undersized' but extremely long.

If not CMB then a Jojo Tuggler in the second round would fit that mold as well.


The Thunder have almost all of their rotation players able to shoot the 3. I think you'll want Rasheer Fleming who is 6'9 with a 7'5 wingspan that can shoot the 3 and guard 3-5.

The team is already a good defensive team, no need to double down and risking getting another Mogbo.


I would take multiple Mogbo type players. I don't hate the Rasheer Fleming idea though. He seems more like a trade down candidate for middle of first round.


I say this with Ryan Dunn and Mogbo in mind. I like 2-way players but I don't want an elite defender that needs their shooting fixed. Sam Vecenie in the video was saying that Orlando seems to be ones that draft and think they can fix shooting. So they take Anthony Black.

I'm fine with trading down. Atlanta at #13 and #23 (LAL) would be a nice candidate.

Is Rasheer, Shawn Marion in Amar'e Stoudemire's frame?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#551 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:57 pm

I don’t think he does, but hypothetically, if Fleming has gigantic mits for hands like Kawhi… how close are we getting on the comparisons for the draft?

Keep in mind, Kawhi wasn’t Kawhi during the draft process.
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Post#552 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:03 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Kaman is VERY raw. Like Chomche raw. I wouldn't touch him with a top pick.

From 1-6 I have Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Kap and Johnson in that order. If we fall out of the Top 6, could consider moving down.

I would also consider what Dick could get us in the draft as well. We have too many wings and although I like Dicks shooting, his defence is horrendous and he's due for a payday soon. Would love to get my hands on Fleming, Richardson, Wolf or Sorber later in the first round.


The thing with Khaman is that despite being raw his sheer size and baseline skills are allowing him to produce in ways Chomche would never dream of producing for a blue blood basketball program. How many players on this planet have his size and tools at his age?

He can rim run, grab offensive boards and rotate on defense at a very high level. That honestly might be good enough for now given his C&S competency at his size. His intersection of traits might make him boom or bust. I'm going to look into past bigs w suspect dribbling and passing and see if there were still any good outcomes off the top of my head I think there were.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#553 » by mtcan » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:11 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don’t think he does, but hypothetically, if Fleming has gigantic mits for hands like Kawhi… how close are we getting on the comparisons for the draft?

Keep in mind, Kawhi wasn’t Kawhi during the draft process.

Beware drafting a guy because of a physical attribute compared a guy like Kawhi. Just cuz he has Kawhi's hand size doesn't mean you getting Kawhi...you might just be getting a G-Leaguer with massive hands.

Recall the Joey Graham pics when we all thought we were getting the black Hulk who could dribble a basketball. We were all fooled.

And let's tone down the comparisons to hall of famers/legends. Comparison is the thief of joy...as they say. The moment we start comparing nobodies to Kawhi Leonard and other greats...we set them up for failure when they inevitably show us that they are far from an NBA all-time great. This is kinda why I hate pre-draft evaluations.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#554 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:20 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Kaman is VERY raw. Like Chomche raw. I wouldn't touch him with a top pick.

From 1-6 I have Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Kap and Johnson in that order. If we fall out of the Top 6, could consider moving down.

I would also consider what Dick could get us in the draft as well. We have too many wings and although I like Dicks shooting, his defence is horrendous and he's due for a payday soon. Would love to get my hands on Fleming, Richardson, Wolf or Sorber later in the first round.


Go for one of Orlando’s picks + future considerations. They definitely need Dick’s shooting. Lots of decent mid-level bigs in this draft.

I’d go for a big with the 2nd rounder too. One strong, long defensive C + an offensive PF/C
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#555 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:27 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don’t think he does, but hypothetically, if Fleming has gigantic mits for hands like Kawhi… how close are we getting on the comparisons for the draft?

Keep in mind, Kawhi wasn’t Kawhi during the draft process.

Beware drafting a guy because of a physical attribute compared a guy like Kawhi. Just cuz he has Kawhi's hand size doesn't mean you getting Kawhi...you might just be getting a G-Leaguer with massive hands.

Recall the Joey Graham pics when we all thought we were getting the black Hulk who could dribble a basketball. We were all fooled.

And let's tone down the comparisons to hall of famers/legends. Comparison is the thief of joy...as they say. The moment we start comparing nobodies to Kawhi Leonard and other greats...we set them up for failure when they inevitably show us that they are far from an NBA all-time great. This is kinda why I hate pre-draft evaluations.

Okay, thank you for your input. It’s a hypothetical. I recall Joey Graham quite clearly, and not a lot of us were happy that we passed on Danny Granger twice, or Gerald Green twice. Maybe you were fooled, but I’d caution saying “we were all fooled”.
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Post#556 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:53 pm

kawhi attempted 112 dribble jumpers his soph year and shot 76% from stripe
fleming has attempted 3 and is clearly in the 60's as ft shooter

i think fleming maxes out as pretty mid rotation player.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#557 » by Indeed » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:53 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:kawhi attempted 112 dribble jumpers his soph year and shot 76% from stripe
fleming has attempted 3 and is clearly in the 60's as ft shooter

i think fleming maxes out as pretty mid rotation player.


I feel the same, and unsure he reads the game that well, which may limit him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#558 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:06 pm

Indeed wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:kawhi attempted 112 dribble jumpers his soph year and shot 76% from stripe
fleming has attempted 3 and is clearly in the 60's as ft shooter

i think fleming maxes out as pretty mid rotation player.


I feel the same, and unsure he reads the game that well, which may limit him.


i wasn't a big yaxel lendeborg guy last year but if you're looking for freak WS guys with potential to surprise he seems to have some more juice to his game, took a big jump in 2PT%, AST% this year. his dunk rate is up and rim finishing went from 56.7% to 73.6%. some pretty big production jumps there. WS is rumored to be like 7'3-7'4. Has played **** comp but could end up being an Ajay Mitchell type bet. 78% ft shooter in college. event creator but he's old and unideal athleticism. predraft and season film should give a lot more info.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#559 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:22 pm

i feel like masai is locked in on khaman maluach not gonna lie. i feel like he's been locked in on him for 2 years already and i feel like he'd override his entire scouting department if they didn't arrive at the same conclusions.

no matter what, the raps believe they can develop guys and in maluach you are looking at a very young guy with a standing reach that is up there with wemby's who comes with a legit shooting stroke and a duke basketball education.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#560 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:32 pm

Hypothetical - Would you trade:

1st pick + IQ for the 2nd pick + Lamelo
1st pick + IQ for the 2nd pick + Zion
1st pick + Walter for 2nd pick + Sarr

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