Fake Trade Thread #6

[LofJ]

prior to Mark trade take back? Maybe

Now? don't think so

Hopefully he can recoup some of his value. If we're going to make a big trade we really need him to carry enough value to be a decent incentive for the other team.

[SWedd523]

If Miami signals a rebuild, there's going to be a lot of teams bidding for Bam

[JustBuzzin]

What do we do trade wise if we get the #1 pick and draft Flagg?

Do we go after Gobert for Mark/Nurkic/1st deal.

I like the idea of Melo/Miller/Flagg with Gobert anchoring the defense.

[Diop]

What do we do trade wise if we get the #1 pick and draft Flagg?

Do we go after Gobert for Mark/Nurkic/1st deal.

I like the idea of Melo/Miller/Flagg with Gobert anchoring the defense.

no thanks, Gobert clogs up the key to much. he can be tricky to play with

[HornetJail]

Gobert turns 33 this summer... our starting five on opening night with Flagg in play would be 24/22/18/27/23 years old. there is no reason at all to trade big value for a 33-year-old.

If we're fortunate enough to luck into any of the top 3 or so picks, I'm keeping the starting five the way it is, and building up the depth on this team with other picks, the MLE, and trades.

I would personally be happy turning over literally every guaranteed contract on this team aside from Melo/Miller/Bridges/Mark/Moussa... and realistically Bridges/Moussa are not deal breakers either.

[LurkCobain]

Gobert turns 33 this summer... our starting five on opening night with Flagg in play would be 24/22/18/27/23 years old. there is no reason at all to trade big value for a 33-year-old.

If we're fortunate enough to luck into any of the top 3 or so picks, I'm keeping the starting five the way it is, and building up the depth on this team with other picks, the MLE, and trades.

I would personally be happy turning over literally every guaranteed contract on this team aside from Melo/Miller/Bridges/Mark/Moussa... and realistically Bridges/Moussa are not deal breakers either.

Mark looks like he is only out there because he has to or he doesn’t get paid. Why would you want to keep him past this season? I’m trading him for ANYTHING in the Summer.

[MasterIchiro]

I wouldn't trade Mark unless a team like the Lakers offered: Knecht, Reddish, 2030 1st swap unprotected, 2031 1st unprotected.

Er something like that.

I know, it would never happen. I'm just using this fantasy as an example.

[Rich4114]

Gobert turns 33 this summer... our starting five on opening night with Flagg in play would be 24/22/18/27/23 years old. there is no reason at all to trade big value for a 33-year-old.

If we're fortunate enough to luck into any of the top 3 or so picks, I'm keeping the starting five the way it is, and building up the depth on this team with other picks, the MLE, and trades.

I would personally be happy turning over literally every guaranteed contract on this team aside from Melo/Miller/Bridges/Mark/Moussa... and realistically Bridges/Moussa are not deal breakers either.

Mark looks like he is only out there because he has to or he doesn’t get paid. Why would you want to keep him past this season? I’m trading him for ANYTHING in the Summer.

Mark is still a prospect. He's got like 90 NBA games to his name and is what, 22? His growth was 100% stunted the last 12+ months and it's caused him to regress in terms of strength from my perspective. Get bro in the weight room and a full summer of working on his game and then see where he's at by training camp. Next season is going to be what tells us if Mark is going to be a legit starting C long term or not.

[JustBuzzin]

I still say if we don't get a top 2 pick we need to go all in on Zion. This franchise has to make a splash for a change.

Flagg/Harper or Zion those are my only options this off-season.

[Liver_Pooty]

Say the sixers blow it up. Would you give up the 2nd pick in the draft and whatever salaries work for Joel Embiid and his injury riddled ass

Edit : saw him play 2 weeks ago and he was struggling to run.

[HornetJail]

Say the sixers blow it up. Would you give up the 2nd pick in the draft and whatever salaries work for Joel Embiid and his injury riddled ass

Edit : saw him play 2 weeks ago and he was struggling to run.

2nd? hell no

ask me if we fall to like #7 or #8. I'll still say no, but I'd think about it

[Bassman]

We don’t need any older or semi-broken players here like Embid. He’s certifiably wrecked those knees. A really good vet in his prime (26 to 28) who could help guide this team in performance and leadership? That would be ideal.

A lot depends on who we pick. Big difference in dynamic between landing Flagg or Harper. If it’s Flagg, Bailey or VJ, I’d put him right into the current mix of Mark, Miles, Miller and Melo. If it’s Harper, I would at least consider shopping Melo for a high quality SG. Not convinced Melo’s game will pair with another ball dominant PG, but could always try it and see. Depends as always on trade return in the deal.

[JMAC3]

I still say if we don't get a top 2 pick we need to go all in on Zion. This franchise has to make a splash for a change.

Flagg/Harper or Zion those are my only options this off-season.

Even if we pick 3rd or 4th, I would rather draft a player there and then look to trade future pick package for Zion. He isn't worth a top 5 pick with his injury history.

My database has the chances you draft an allstar at the following percentages at respected picks.
#1 68.0%
#2 32.0%
#3 56.0%
#4 32.0%
#5 36.0%

Picks 6-10 is 20% and that is when maybe I would have a convo but it would be only that pick going out and not multiple extra picks.

[Rich4114]

I still say if we don't get a top 2 pick we need to go all in on Zion. This franchise has to make a splash for a change.

Flagg/Harper or Zion those are my only options this off-season.

Welcome aboard! Plan A) get a top 2 pick. Plan B) trade future assets + Miles for Zion

I would include anyone not Miller or Ball for Zion as part of the player package, but I'd like to keep NSJ if possible. Ideally Mark too, but I suspect he'd be out in that scenario.

I'm done waiting on home grown talent to develop when there is no infrastructure around them to develop properly. I'm done sitting through seasons of no-name g leaguers or guys who were about to retire taking up roster spots. I'm done watching us whiff on lottery picks in grand fashion. I'm happy to take on the risk of Zion because at least we have a chance if we go that route.

If we land Flagg, then it's less necessary and my opinion shifts to trading for an impact player just at maybe a different position.

[JustBuzzin]

I still say if we don't get a top 2 pick we need to go all in on Zion. This franchise has to make a splash for a change.

Flagg/Harper or Zion those are my only options this off-season.

Welcome aboard! Plan A) get a top 2 pick. Plan B) trade future assets + Miles for Zion

I would include anyone not Miller or Ball for Zion as part of the player package, but I'd like to keep NSJ if possible. Ideally Mark too, but I suspect he'd be out in that scenario.

I'm done waiting on home grown talent to develop when there is no infrastructure around them to develop properly. I'm done sitting through seasons of no-name g leaguers or guys who were about to retire taking up roster spots. I'm done watching us whiff on lottery picks in grand fashion. I'm happy to take on the risk of Zion because at least we have a chance if we go that route.

If we land Flagg, then it's less necessary and my opinion shifts to trading for an impact player just at maybe a different position.

If we trade for Zion I think we would need a center who can stretch the floor. Zion likes to operate in the paint. Mark is not the best fit for a guy like Zion imo.

[HornetJail]

I still say if we don't get a top 2 pick we need to go all in on Zion. This franchise has to make a splash for a change.

Flagg/Harper or Zion those are my only options this off-season.

Welcome aboard! Plan A) get a top 2 pick. Plan B) trade future assets + Miles for Zion

I would include anyone not Miller or Ball for Zion as part of the player package, but I'd like to keep NSJ if possible. Ideally Mark too, but I suspect he'd be out in that scenario.

I'm done waiting on home grown talent to develop when there is no infrastructure around them to develop properly. I'm done sitting through seasons of no-name g leaguers or guys who were about to retire taking up roster spots. I'm done watching us whiff on lottery picks in grand fashion. I'm happy to take on the risk of Zion because at least we have a chance if we go that route.

If we land Flagg, then it's less necessary and my opinion shifts to trading for an impact player just at maybe a different position.

If we trade for Zion I think we would need a center who can stretch the floor. Zion likes to operate in the paint. Mark is not the best fit for a guy like Zion imo.

I don't think you kick Mark to the curb since he's not a big minutes guy and never has been, but you stagger their minutes so one is always out there, and then go out and try to trade for a guy like Vucevic

[JustBuzzin]

Welcome aboard! Plan A) get a top 2 pick. Plan B) trade future assets + Miles for Zion

I would include anyone not Miller or Ball for Zion as part of the player package, but I'd like to keep NSJ if possible. Ideally Mark too, but I suspect he'd be out in that scenario.

I'm done waiting on home grown talent to develop when there is no infrastructure around them to develop properly. I'm done sitting through seasons of no-name g leaguers or guys who were about to retire taking up roster spots. I'm done watching us whiff on lottery picks in grand fashion. I'm happy to take on the risk of Zion because at least we have a chance if we go that route.

If we land Flagg, then it's less necessary and my opinion shifts to trading for an impact player just at maybe a different position.

If we trade for Zion I think we would need a center who can stretch the floor. Zion likes to operate in the paint. Mark is not the best fit for a guy like Zion imo.

I don't think you kick Mark to the curb since he's not a big minutes guy and never has been, but you stagger their minutes so one is always out there, and then go out and try to trade for a guy like Vucevic

That could work. Vucevic is definitely a better fit with Zion.

[fatlever]

this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

[HornetJail]

this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

hijacking this idea:

what kind of player could we expect to get offering a team the 5th-7th pick and our 2026 1st? assume filler contracts going out (a combo Green/Nurk/Okogie/Salaun... or Miles) to match any player in return

[Rich4114]

this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

hijacking this idea:

what kind of player could we expect to get offering a team the 5th-7th pick and our 2026 1st? assume filler contracts going out (a combo Green/Nurk/Okogie/Salaun... or Miles) to match any player in return

Zion, Sabonis, Booker... a broken Embiid. Basically have to look for the teams about to blow it up and rebuild OR find a stupid front office like Dallas or MN who is known to sell their best players for 60 cents on the dollar just because.