2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
Believe it or not, but we're still in 7th place.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
Guard play has been a problem since Weltman got here.
He has to go. If not, it’s very fair to surmise the ownership either doesn’t care or is too stupid to see a problem. It may be both, which is fine as I’m not sure which would be worse.
He has to go. If not, it’s very fair to surmise the ownership either doesn’t care or is too stupid to see a problem. It may be both, which is fine as I’m not sure which would be worse.
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Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.
It’s not his fault his guards sucked.
It’s not his fault his guards sucked.

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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
basketballRob wrote:Believe it or not, but we're still in 7th place.
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Not for long.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
I doubt anyone gets fired when your 3 best players are on rookie contracts and all the injuries. Next season, when Franz and Suggs get big contracts, they'll be expected to win.Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:Paolo, Franz, Suggs, and Mo. You keep them and make everything else, including future picks, available to improve the team with legit difference makers.
I’d fire Weltman at the end of the season and give Mose one year under the new FO for evaluation.
I would fire Mosley as well. There's no need to have a new GM inherit a coach. Let the GM bring on his own coach.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
Why?BlueBalls wrote:basketballRob wrote:Believe it or not, but we're still in 7th place.
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It is going to be tough after these next two home games. Almost all against top 50% winning teams on the road. We are likely heading to the lottery if we fumbled in the playin
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There were about 5 turnovers from wide open guys in the paint because nobody can throw an entry pass.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
thelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.
It’s not his fault his guards sucked.
Yeah he was solid. Could always give a lot more on defense but he was working the pass and working off the ball nicely.
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SOUL wrote:There were about 5 turnovers from wide open guys in the paint because nobody can throw an entry pass.
We are the worst passing team. Have been for years. So worst shooting team check, worst passing team check, worst guard rotation check.
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basketballRob wrote:Why?BlueBalls wrote:basketballRob wrote:Believe it or not, but we're still in 7th place.
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Washington, Utah, Charlotte, Philadephia - i think only those 4 teams are worse than us resultwise in the past 2 months. Orlando is a very poor team in 2025.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
Knightro wrote:FFBlitzace wrote:Was the Franz miss a choke miss or a tough shot?
When you come all the way back like that, you have to finish it off. Teams pretty much always do. Not us I guess, but other teams.
It was an uncontested layup.
I think Franz expected there to be more of a contest and he just put it up off the glass too hard.
Thats what most likely happened, still sucks.
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AB wasn't very good tonight but Cole was atrocious again. It's sad that 3rd string COJO made the offense look way different and his defense was well defendable without fouling
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sucks teams below us do not want to win. Hopefully we lose the 9/10 play in games and we get a nice pick. problem is, looks who is making the pick......
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Felt the same way but... According to some he's a "loser" and a "big" part of the problem....... Like really? With fans like this you don't need any oppsthelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.
It’s not his fault his guards sucked.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
thelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.
It’s not his fault his guards sucked.
I thought he pretty much sucked until that late flurry during the final stretch.
With three minutes left in the game and the Magic down 13, he only had 12 points and 4 turnovers.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
SOUL wrote:There were about 5 turnovers from wide open guys in the paint because nobody can throw an entry pass.
It's been the same story here for the past decade
Paolo used to do post-ups the last 2 seasons, but nobody could either 1. Get the ball to him in time 2. Would throw a turnover
This season he's rarely been trying to post up with deep positioning, even with mismatches, because why try when your teammates cant even fet the ball to you in that scenario?
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 62: Toronto Raptors (18-42) at Orlando Magic (29-32) - 6pm
As bad as it feels like we've been, consider the actual difference in us being at least. 500 right now if not slightly above. The number of heartbreakers we've been on the losing side of. Ultimately, good teams find ways to win, not lose. So it's not an excuse. But the point is, the margin here isn't huge, despite how awful it has felt.
11/18/2017 - I have officially disowned Nikola Vucevic and branded him a loser.
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