[Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards

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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#81 » by -Luke- » Mon Mar 3, 2025 1:15 pm

MrGoat wrote:Update from Stein: what a shock, this was indeed a lie

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25166102-luka-doncic-rumors-mavs-wolves-didnt-specifically-discuss-star-lakers-trade

"Trade discussions between the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves didn't "specifically" involve Luka Dončić before he was moved to the Los Angeles Lakers, according to NBA insider Marc Stein.

"The Mavericks' talks with Milwaukee and Minnesota, as described to me, were very brief in nature and intentionally broad and vague … meaning they did not specifically identify Dončić," Stein wrote Sunday."

And Stein's a better source than Amick

Would love to know how these talks went.

Harrison: Would you trade Anthony Edwards for one of our players?
Connelly: Which player?
Harrison: Uhm, you know, one of our players...
Connelly: I need a little more information here. Are we talking about Luka?
Harrison: Can't say.
Connelly; Then the answer is No.

Harrison four weeks later: We tried to trade Luka for Edwards but the Wolves said No.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#82 » by Mavrelous » Mon Mar 3, 2025 1:25 pm

MrGoat wrote:Update from Stein: what a shock, this was indeed a lie

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25166102-luka-doncic-rumors-mavs-wolves-didnt-specifically-discuss-star-lakers-trade

"Trade discussions between the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves didn't "specifically" involve Luka Dončić before he was moved to the Los Angeles Lakers, according to NBA insider Marc Stein.

"The Mavericks' talks with Milwaukee and Minnesota, as described to me, were very brief in nature and intentionally broad and vague … meaning they did not specifically identify Dončić," Stein wrote Sunday."

And Stein's a better source than Amick


0 reason to trust Stein, or consider him a better source, the gap between his reputation and his actual reporting is massive, I don't think he has any source in the Mavs FO.
He sits on a Mavericks podcast and has never ever broken any real news, or was able to give any injury update, when Shams, Haynes and even McMahon were able to get scoops all year long.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#83 » by dantas » Mon Mar 3, 2025 3:38 pm

I don't understand this concept that Dallas offered Doncic to the Lakers and Wolves, but in secret. Why in secret? Every team in the league would want to trade for Doncic. Put him on the market and analyze the best offer.

If Dallas felt they had to get rid of Doncic because he was out of shape, had a bad attitude on a daily basis, offer him to everyone and wait for the best offer. Doncic's value is unlikely to depreciate much.

It seems like a very strange move by Nico Harrison (or whoever is behind him).
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#84 » by TFJava » Mon Mar 3, 2025 4:09 pm

The Minnesota Timberwolves should have made that trade, if was a one for one swap, then make that happen.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#85 » by Broadcaster » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:19 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Guys the NBA wanted Luka on the Lakers. This was a business move stop trying to convince yourself that Nico made this trade on his terms. He's just the scapegoat for the NBA.

Look at how the league has changed the schedule now that Luka is a Lakers. They putting them on Nat'l tv damn near every game. This was a marketing move for the future. Someone has to be the face and Luka had to be that guy and specifically had to be the Lakers.

No GM would put a top 3 player just entering his prime on the trade block. Notice I said trade block. Nobody knew Luka was even available. Red flags that this was behind the scenes and owners had to agree to it for the betterment of the league. This was a money move folks!


No offense but your theory is incredibly stupid.

According to you the owners of the league conspired to send Luka to the Lakers for the betterment of the league.

How do you reconcile this fact: MANY OF THESE SAME OWNERS ARE THE ONES WHO STEPPED IN TO STOP THE CP3 TRADE TO LAL. Explain these owners change of heart less than a year after signing a massive brand new tv deal (aka just got massively paid). They just got a massive cheque and now they’re worried about money? Make that make sense to me.

Your entire theory falls apart if you rub two brain cells together.


No it doesn’t and being so derogatory is really unnecessary. Should I call you stupid for actually believing what you’re told?

Yes, they’re worried about making more money. That’s the only thing they’re ever worried about. It’s a business. The Chris Paul circumstance is also much different. It wasn’t the collection of owners who said no to the deal; it was David Stern.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#86 » by Broadcaster » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:23 pm

I think it’s incredibly clear that this was never about basketball. We trust people too much. People lie. People looking to make money definitely lie. Integrity doesn’t matter; their bottom line does. There is no justification for a trade like this and I think it’s a little foolish to believe it just because they say it. Use some critical thinking.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#87 » by CobraCommander » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:28 pm

-Luke- wrote:
MrGoat wrote:Update from Stein: what a shock, this was indeed a lie

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25166102-luka-doncic-rumors-mavs-wolves-didnt-specifically-discuss-star-lakers-trade

"Trade discussions between the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves didn't "specifically" involve Luka Dončić before he was moved to the Los Angeles Lakers, according to NBA insider Marc Stein.

"The Mavericks' talks with Milwaukee and Minnesota, as described to me, were very brief in nature and intentionally broad and vague … meaning they did not specifically identify Dončić," Stein wrote Sunday."

And Stein's a better source than Amick

Would love to know how these talks went.

Harrison: Would you trade Anthony Edwards for one of our players?
Connelly: Which player?
Harrison: Uhm, you know, one of our players...
Connelly: I need a little more information here. Are we talking about Luka?
Harrison: Can't say.
Connelly; Then the answer is No.

Harrison four weeks later: We tried to trade Luka for Edwards but the Wolves said No.

Fans still in disbelief that Luka was shopped and the Wolves and Bucks said no?


In a world with NICO is a professional GM paid millions to make NBA decisions and Beal is one of the top paid players in the NBA and one of only two with a no trade clause, YOU DOUBT the stupidity of NBA GMs?

I believe The wolves knew and said no to a trade for Luka for Ant….

And I would also like to say that makes the Wolves Ownership and GMs DUMBER than the MAVS!!!

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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#88 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:28 pm

Broadcaster wrote:I think it’s incredibly clear that this was never about basketball. We trust people too much. People lie. People looking to make money definitely lie. Integrity doesn’t matter; their bottom line does. There is no justification for a trade like this and I think it’s a little foolish to believe it just because they say it. Use some critical thinking.

This guy gets it.

I cringe when I keep seeing people mentioning Nico like he's the reason this trade was made. He's the scapegoat for the NBA and fans are believing this GM was stupid enough to make that trade. Just stop it people if we all agree that the trade made no sense why are we acting like a professional GM didn't realize it.

This was a business move point blank. Blame the owners of all the teams that's why this trade was made. Luka is a international superstar he's bringing dollars to the league he had to be in LA playing for the Lakers. This is a jackpot for the NBA.

Once again they didn't even put him on the trade block! Wake up people don't let the NBA fool you.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#89 » by og15 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:29 pm

-Luke- wrote:
MrGoat wrote:Update from Stein: what a shock, this was indeed a lie

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25166102-luka-doncic-rumors-mavs-wolves-didnt-specifically-discuss-star-lakers-trade

"Trade discussions between the Dallas Mavericks and Minnesota Timberwolves didn't "specifically" involve Luka Dončić before he was moved to the Los Angeles Lakers, according to NBA insider Marc Stein.

"The Mavericks' talks with Milwaukee and Minnesota, as described to me, were very brief in nature and intentionally broad and vague … meaning they did not specifically identify Dončić," Stein wrote Sunday."

And Stein's a better source than Amick

Would love to know how these talks went.

Harrison: Would you trade Anthony Edwards for one of our players?
Connelly: Which player?
Harrison: Uhm, you know, one of our players...
Connelly: I need a little more information here. Are we talking about Luka?
Harrison: Can't say.
Connelly; Then the answer is No.

Harrison four weeks later: We tried to trade Luka for Edwards but the Wolves said No.

Basically trying to gauge if other teams would ever trade their superstar, and the other team is obviously thinking for anyone but Luka, so why would they care? :lol: :lol:

Broadcaster wrote:
ConSarnit wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Guys the NBA wanted Luka on the Lakers. This was a business move stop trying to convince yourself that Nico made this trade on his terms. He's just the scapegoat for the NBA.

Look at how the league has changed the schedule now that Luka is a Lakers. They putting them on Nat'l tv damn near every game. This was a marketing move for the future. Someone has to be the face and Luka had to be that guy and specifically had to be the Lakers.

No GM would put a top 3 player just entering his prime on the trade block. Notice I said trade block. Nobody knew Luka was even available. Red flags that this was behind the scenes and owners had to agree to it for the betterment of the league. This was a money move folks!


No offense but your theory is incredibly stupid.

According to you the owners of the league conspired to send Luka to the Lakers for the betterment of the league.

How do you reconcile this fact: MANY OF THESE SAME OWNERS ARE THE ONES WHO STEPPED IN TO STOP THE CP3 TRADE TO LAL. Explain these owners change of heart less than a year after signing a massive brand new tv deal (aka just got massively paid). They just got a massive cheque and now they’re worried about money? Make that make sense to me.

Your entire theory falls apart if you rub two brain cells together.


No it doesn’t and being so derogatory is really unnecessary. Should I call you stupid for actually believing what you’re told?

Yes, they’re worried about making more money. That’s the only thing they’re ever worried about. It’s a business. The Chris Paul circumstance is also much different. It wasn’t the collection of owners who said no to the deal; it was David Stern.

The league owned the team and was able to control trade decisions, yes, but it is well documented that as soon as it was reported the collection of owners were not happy and complained to Stern and the league office who were the owners of the Hornets at the time. If the league didn't own the Hornets at the time, the other owners complaints would have been irrelevant in terms of changing the trade.

Including multiple people and the whole league of owners in something like this would actually be exactly what NOT to do if you were trying to have a conspiracy. That's the problem.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#90 » by DusterBuster » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:35 pm

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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#91 » by Wigginstime » Mon Mar 3, 2025 5:49 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Obviously not true.

Not even the Mavericks Head Coach Jason Kidd knew. But you're telling me the Timberwolves knew lol


Did Nico have the conversation about ultimate secrecy with the Wolves, like he and Rob Pelinka had?

hmm?


PR move, sad. Nobody buying it


There is an extremely simple reason the Wolves would not leak this rumor at the time. What do they gain from it? Just think about the ramifications for a second.

1) if it leaks then the Wolves have to deal with any blowback that they might be considering trading Ant

2) if they leak it then other teams find out and create a bidding war, which hurts MIN if they were actually considering the trade

Where is the upside for MIN to leak this trade?


2 reasons to leak the trade

1. They decided they only ever consider the trade if the had assurances that Luka would resign long term. Mavs wont let them talk to Luka so they leak the trade so Luka becomes aware do they can gauge his potential interest

2. They don’t want/expect to get Luka; however, as a playoff team they want to drive up the price for Luka as much as possible to avoid having a team get Luka for Pennies and become a dominant force.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#92 » by Cubbies2120 » Thu May 1, 2025 12:59 pm

In hindsight, maybe the right choice by the Wolves.
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Re: [Wiretap] Mavericks Offered Luka Doncic To Timberwolves For Anthony Edwards 

Post#93 » by Shaka_Zulu » Thu May 1, 2025 1:20 pm

I say this as as a Wolves fan, stop bumping stupid threads like this.


I'm very happy with Ant (especially with his poised growth this off season), but Luka is better. Despite his glaring flaws in other direction.


Luka on this Wolves team would be a improved team version of last years Mavs team minus Kyrie (a Randle channeling his inner Giannis, handling that scoring load?).


Better wing defenders (Mavs have no Jaden), better interior D with Rudy (who would have career year getting lobs from Luka), better bench scorers and hustle guys (Naz, Donte, Naw, Conley?).


It's ironically a team tailored for Luka, hiding his defensive woes and weaknesses.

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