Tune In: The Nick Smith Jr Thread

MasterIchiro · Post #281 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Feb 9, 2025 1:14 pm

The undoing of the Knecht trade kind of clears the deck a little more for Nick Smith Jr.

The minutes remain wide open.

He's your starter for the remainder of the season. Let's see what he can do with this opportunity, now that it's completely open for him.

Not sure we needed Knecht in the first place. NSJ is 3 years younger.

Chapelchilla · Post #282 » by **Chapelchilla** » Sun Feb 9, 2025 8:40 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:The undoing of the Knecht trade kind of clears the deck a little more for Nick Smith Jr.

The minutes remain wide open.

He's your starter for the remainder of the season. Let's see what he can do with this opportunity, now that it's completely open for him.

Not sure we needed Knecht in the first place. NSJ is 3 years younger.

Yep, if we can develope him into a good rotation player and steady scorer that's a great outcome for a later draft pick

wilson115 · Post #283 » by **wilson115** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:48 am

NSJ with a pair of clutch makes.

Read on Twitter

Post #284 » by **Diop** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:56 am

good shooters mentality as the rest of his game was terrible.

good to have the confidence to keep shooting

Post #285 » by **fatlever** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:33 am

dude played an infuriating first quarter so glad he hit that shot in the fourth period

Liver_Pooty · Post #286 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:24 am

Dude can make some real money as a 6th man.

MasterIchiro · Post #287 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:57 pm

He plays with split personality. The first half he played panicked every time he touched the ball. Didn't seem to process anything.

Then he drills those two clutch threes perfectly calm and smooth.

Hopefully he becomes more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

You expect inconsistency with young players, but the hard working ones extend your patience a bit through the downswings.

NSJ looked overwhelmed for half this game. The other half he looked like he belonged.

Hopefully his finish is a confidence booster. Never thought we'd see him average near 30 minutes per night as a starter for half a season.

Glad it's not the Thors and Bryce McGowens receiving these golden opportunities this season.

Test the prospect with upside. We've been obsessed with floors in past tank seasons when you really need a loss more than a marginal upgrade on defense, especially if you're delaying development

Post #288 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:07 pm

NSJ (85 career games played): he's inconsistent, but you expect that with young players, hopefully he'll become more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

Mark (86 career games played): he's inconsistent, must be smoking weed right before he plays.

MasterIchiro · Post #289 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:11 pm

yosemiteben wrote:NSJ (85 career games played): he's inconsistent, but you expect that with young players, hopefully he'll become more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

Mark (86 career games played): he's inconsistent, must be smoking weed right before he plays.

Mark bait spontaneously appears in the Nick Smith Jr. thread.

Post #290 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:29 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:NSJ (85 career games played): he's inconsistent, but you expect that with young players, hopefully he'll become more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

Mark (86 career games played): he's inconsistent, must be smoking weed right before he plays.

Mark bait spontaneously appears in the Nick Smith Jr. thread.

I'm wondering why your theory doesn't apply to NSJ. You posted this just hours after offering a completely different take on the same issue.

MasterIchiro · Post #291 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:32 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:NSJ (85 career games played): he's inconsistent, but you expect that with young players, hopefully he'll become more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

Mark (86 career games played): he's inconsistent, must be smoking weed right before he plays.

Mark bait spontaneously appears in the Nick Smith Jr. thread.

I'm wondering why you're theory doesn't apply to NSJ.

No you're not. You don't wonder about other people's perspective other than wondering why they don't always think the same way you do. Then you can't disagree without lobbing some veiled insult.

I want to talk about NSJ in the NSJ thread. If you want to discuss Mark, sure, if I see something worth discussion in the Mark thread, maybe it's worth the conversation.

You're just here trying to play gotcha in the meantime.

Post #292 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:22 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Mark bait spontaneously appears in the Nick Smith Jr. thread.

I'm wondering why you're theory doesn't apply to NSJ.

No you're not.

Yes I am.

MasterIchiro wrote:You don't wonder about other people's perspective other than wondering why they don't always think the same way you do.

I'm sorry you feel that way. It is very much not true. I would suggest listening to me about how I feel and what I'm doing, rather than telling me I'm wrong and then informing me that your understanding of my motivations is actually the correct one.

MasterIchiro · Post #293 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I'm wondering why you're theory doesn't apply to NSJ.

No you're not.

Yes I am.

MasterIchiro wrote:You don't wonder about other people's perspective other than wondering why they don't always think the same way you do.

I'm sorry you feel that way. It is very much not true. I would suggest listening to me about how I feel and what I'm doing, rather than telling me I'm wrong and then informing me that your understanding of my motivations is actually the correct one.

Did you get lost? This is still the NSJ thread.

Post #294 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:48 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
No you're not.

Yes I am.

MasterIchiro wrote:You don't wonder about other people's perspective other than wondering why they don't always think the same way you do.

I'm sorry you feel that way. It is very much not true. I would suggest listening to me about how I feel and what I'm doing, rather than telling me I'm wrong and then informing me that your understanding of my motivations is actually the correct one.

Did you get lost? This is still the NSJ thread.

Sending you a DM.

SWedd523 · Post #295 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:43 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:He plays with split personality. The first half he played panicked every time he touched the ball. Didn't seem to process anything.

Then he drills those two clutch threes perfectly calm and smooth.

Hopefully he becomes more consistent as he gains experience and matures.

You expect inconsistency with young players, but the hard working ones extend your patience a bit through the downswings.

NSJ looked overwhelmed for half this game. The other half he looked like he belonged.

Hopefully his finish is a confidence booster. Never thought we'd see him average near 30 minutes per night as a starter for half a season.

Glad it's not the Thors and Bryce McGowens receiving these golden opportunities this season.

Test the prospect with upside. We've been obsessed with floors in past tank seasons when you really need a loss more than a marginal upgrade on defense, especially if you're delaying development

What do you think the reason is for the inconsistency?

Personally I think it's because he's smoking weed, perchance.

SWedd523 · Post #296 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:44 pm

that's what I get for not refreshing the page prior to posting

Post #297 » by **fatlever** » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:17 pm

Doug summed up my feelings on Nick almost perfectly today on the podcast. He hasn't been good as a starter. he has one skill, shooting, which he's doing rather poorly. Everything else is an absolute mess. If Tre had a healthy back, I don't think there would be a place on in the rotation for him going forward. But we have no idea what's going on with tre's back. Either way I'm not expecting much from him going forward. I always had pretty low expectations given his draft spot and his frame and height and skill set.

Rich4114 · Post #298 » by **Rich4114** » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:05 pm

I think NSJ's main role should be scorer off the bench. He has a ways to go before he can be more than that, but he's only in his second year and just not getting real NBA opportunity so he's very much still developing.

HornetJail · Post #299 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:11 pm

NSJ looks fine when he's hitting shots but highly replaceable

When his shot isn't there he has no idea how to contribute and that's a problem

Post #300 » by **fatlever** » Thu Mar 6, 2025 6:03 pm

I'm pretty much done with Nick. Nothing he's done as a starter has changed my opinion on him. In fact nothing he has done in a Hornet's uniform since his first summer leak has really changed my opinion on him. As Doug ranted about, he doesn't have positional size. He's not a good defender. cant Create for others. Doesn't get to the rim or get to the free throw line. His singular skill is shooting and he's doing that at a very poor rate. If he's not hitting shots he's completely useless. he basically has to be a lights out shooter to overcome everything else that is deficient about his profile. I would definitely look to move off of him this summer. No one can say he hasn't had a fair audition.