2024-2025 Regular Season Game 69: Orlando Magic (31-37) at Cleveland Cavaliers (56-10) - 1pm

[eyriq]

I'm going to start my 'Franz is not a max player' bit again if this ish continues. He looked AMAZING for a month but as far as I'm concerned, that was a flash in the pan right now.

Nah, don't pick that back up, he's clearly a max player.

[ibraheim718]

So is the consensus to draft Jeremiah Fears?

Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't watch him but I saw that he was a sub 30% 3pt shooter and thought "yep, exactly who the magic would draft"

Jase Richardson? A lot of point guards in this draft. They need to get this one right and no don't trade them.

[VFX]

So is the consensus to draft Jeremiah Fears?

Magic need to trade those picks

What do these late first picks realistically land Orlando to solve some of this absolute shite?

Some team trading a starting point guard for some random forward picked in the 20s?

It’s not like I trust their drafting ability outside the top 10 regardless. But these picks aren’t that valuable.

[thelead]

I'm going to start my 'Franz is not a max player' bit again if this ish continues. He looked AMAZING for a month but as far as I'm concerned, that was a flash in the pan right now.

Nah, don't pick that back up, he's clearly a max player.

What he's been doing as of late is definitively NOT worthy of a max contract.

[ibraheim718]

Franz is 2-10 with 3 turnovers

He just looks stiff today. Day game.. something physically is off today.

[Bakomagic]

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I’ve been thinking about these complaints and have watched and come to the conclusion that.

It’s not as simple as moving the ball.

Hear me out…..Ball movement looks great because it can cause the defense to scramble. When we (The Magic) move the ball the defense won’t scramble because they are not actually threatened.

Defenders can close out controlled because they actually prefer that we shoot a semi contested shot. If there is not an overly aggressive close out the ball handler can’t get by and score or cause help leading to better look.

The ISO is not the most effective but it’s more likely that Paolo or Franz (usually) will draw help which can cause the defense to be in conflict and scramble.

This needs to be addressed this offseason it’s not something we can fix by just passing the ball around to non threatening players.

Open to opposing views on this.

[eyriq]

Franz is 2-10 with 3 turnovers

He just looks stiff today. Day game.. something physically is off today.

I also think he over thinks things and "big game" pressure can sometimes get to him.

[basketballRob]

Our 2 big energy guys are injured. Moe and Suggs. Franz feeds off their energy.

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[ibraheim718]

Franz is 2-10 with 3 turnovers

He just looks stiff today. Day game.. something physically is off today.

I also think he over thinks things and "big game" pressure can sometimes get to him.

Definitely some of that.

[otownflava21]

I hate the games where we beat ourselves more than the opponent. ESPECIALLY on national TV. This season is such a Heartbreak after the promising start.

[ogmagicfan]

2nd chance points killing us

[eyriq]

Paolo missing free throws. We really want to lose

[eyriq]

WCJ have a good game

[ogmagicfan]

This is WCJ best offensive game since the Knicks game

[eyriq]

Franchero are 8-25 with 5 turnovers

[thelead]

Spoiler:

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I’ve been thinking about these complaints and have watched and come to the conclusion that.

It’s not as simple as moving the ball.

Hear me out…..Ball movement looks great because it can cause the defense to scramble. When we (The Magic) move the ball the defense won’t scramble because they are not actually threatened.

Defenders can close out controlled because they actually prefer that we shoot a semi contested shot. If there is not an overly aggressive close out the ball handler can’t get by and score or cause help leading to better look.

The ISO is not the most effective but it’s more likely that Paolo or Franz (usually) will draw help which can cause the defense to be in conflict and scramble.

This needs to be addressed this offseason it’s not something we can fix by just passing the ball around to non threatening players.

Open to opposing views on this.

I'm not opposed to ISO's in general but there is no movement. Watch the Cavs version of ISO's. While Mitchell is sizing guys up, Strus and/or Hunter are usually cutting, making it harder for the defense to guard everything. When Paolo is dribbling, everyone is just staring at him

At the end of the day, this is more of a roster problem but Mosley is doing himself no favors either.

[Rainwater]

Rebounding man

[ogmagicfan]

If only we could have this WCJ more regularly

[ogmagicfan]

I'm enjoying Tim Legler's commentary

[thelead]

If only we could have this WCJ more regularly

It's the only reason why we're not down 20