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2025 NBA Draft

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Trade both of our picks to move up in the draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#341 » by VFX » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:47 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:Problem with Malauch and in general players without much basketball experience are instincts.

At college, you plant him as 7'1 dude below rim and tell him to disrupt shots. College bigs don't defend switches, there simply isn't enough space, nor enough quality on offense, nor fundamental knowledge among players to take advantage of players being overcommited to either help or defend straight up.


College bigs with any offensive talent tend to look like gods at college for several reasons:
1) very few players are actually tall enough to bother them
2) even fewer among tall ones are actually -skilled.

Most college PF/C positions are filled by bunch of 6'8- 6'10 people who are hardly coordinated. You know- like putting fattest kid on a goal at soccer, that's how C position is filled in unprofessional sports.
Bol Bol at college looked like combo of Shaq, Hakeem and Wilt.

Bol isn't only one who elite. James Wiseman, Mark Williams, Jah, Bagley, Vonleh, Jabari Smith, Hayes, Bamba....

There is lot more on defense, but especially on offense than just camp below rim for block or catch ally oop to dunk. And that's where my scepticism about his instincts starts. He didn't play basketball as kid when kids develop feeling for sport, for pace, when to do what.
He learned all of that because somebody told him he should do that.

Best proof of complete lack of basketball instincts is viewed through his assists numbers. 16 total in 32 games. On 26 TOs. He isn't TO prone, but - once ball gets to him he will either lose it or dunk it. And that's not how nba game is played. Bigs get touches, bigs need to be part of offense, they need to leave paint often, they need to be useful and not just camp below rim, because rules don't allow them to camp.

On defense, same story, vs waaaaaaay faster guards and wings that he ever faced, he will be tasked to guard space. And he won't be able to stay below rim for full possession because, once again, ulike at college, nba forbids such defense.
He also isn't that elite at shotblocking nor rebounding, despite all the advantages he has.

He has athletic tools. But there is realistic scenario where you get him, send him to NBA and ask yourself "wtf is dude doing" - for years. And throw that famous " Bruno Cobocolo- 2 years away from being 2 ways away".


He's is the definition of "lumbering". His instincts aren't great. He's just tall with long arms that can catch lobs. Basically a 7'3 Wendell Carter that actually uses his size to his advantage. Maluach wishes he had 1/6th the kind of feel for the game guys like Bam or Chet do entering the league.

Mark Williams, if healthy, is just a significantly better player as a "shorter" guy positionally. Just more energy, bounce, and feel around the rim.

Centers are huge hit or miss guys when you are drafting if they arent some hidden gem Jokic or surefire Wembanyama at the very top of the draft. There is just too much guesswork involved with them adapting into a specific role based on their work ethic and developing footwork etc. Outside of those two archetypes, they should be avoided entirely in the lotto (top 15 picks).

I'd even go as far to say the same for non versatile PF's/Centers. The skillsets just dont scale with value. These tweener athletic bigs over the last decade have been far more miss than hit. Those 6'7-6'9 bigs that cannot guard faster wings just have no real place on the court if they also cannot shoot.


I've seen YouTube analysts (I know :roll: ) highlighting Maluach's defensive footwork and agility...not "lumbering".

If he's that big and can slide, run, and jump...Mose can do wonders with him, imo. He seems to play with a motor too.


He's actually more than likely going to be somewhat better in one on one situations. He is better suited for NBA style of play, but he's still super raw.

The chance Weltman trades assets to move up in the draft is slim to none. Barely worth talking about him at this point.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#342 » by basketballRob » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:52 pm

Essengue is my Jalen Williams of the draft. He's starting to blow up now and will probably be one of the best players in the draft.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#343 » by VFX » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:58 pm

Jase RIchardson makes the most sense for what Orlando is lacking.
Traore isnt a bad prospect either if his shooting is real.
Fears can actually operate a pick and roll.

There are negative minutes available for SF/PF wings. Not worth discussing.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#344 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:22 pm

Selecting a big without any shooting touch in 2025? He better be great in all other aspects

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#345 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:47 pm

KillMonger wrote:Selecting a big without any shooting touch in 2025? He better be great in all other aspects

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In comes Thomas Sorber. hahah.... gives me everything in college that WCJ did at duke that i loved... minus the shooting.... but hopefully the physicality translates. lol.

Man.... They need to show Carter videos of himself in college. :-D Cuz that guy is allllll any NBA team would want. lob threat, roll man, shotblocker, 3 pnt shooter, had the hook shot, could occasionally pump and head to the basket, etc.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#346 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:51 pm

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KillMonger wrote:Selecting a big without any shooting touch in 2025? He better be great in all other aspects

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In comes Thomas Sorber. hahah.... gives me everything in college that WCJ did at duke that i loved... minus the shooting.... but hopefully the physicality translates. lol.

Man.... They need to show Carter videos of himself in college. :-D Cuz that guy is allllll any NBA team would want.



Sorber shot 72% from the line and showed willingness to try 3s. 53% from the field as an 18/19 year old. Think he has some touch. I would be pretty comfortable taking him at 15/16 if the guards are gone.
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Post#347 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:56 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#348 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:58 pm

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KillMonger wrote:Selecting a big without any shooting touch in 2025? He better be great in all other aspects

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In comes Thomas Sorber. hahah.... gives me everything in college that WCJ did at duke that i loved... minus the shooting.... but hopefully the physicality translates. lol.

Man.... They need to show Carter videos of himself in college. :-D Cuz that guy is allllll any NBA team would want.



Sorber shot 72% from the line and showed willingness to try 3s. 53% from the field as an 18/19 year old. Think he has some touch. I would be pretty comfortable taking him at 15/16 if the guards are gone.

Agreed. I would be down. but knowing how things work... someone would say... Well carter shot 40%+ in college. haha... so i had to separate the two. the other thing i like... is his tenaciousness and his ability to pass the ball.... even from the high post... which will help even IF he doesn't develop a legit 3.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#349 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:59 pm

Honestly if Jase/Fears/Kasparas aren't going to make it to 15/16 and they don't like Traore ( I need to watch more on him) I think trading that pick while trying to attach one of our bigger contracts (Caldwell-Pope/Isaac/Wendell) for a guard would be solid. So many combo guard types I like in the 2nd. Could draft a big with the Nuggets pick and take your choice of combo guards in the 2nd to sit behind whoever we trade for, get minutes on Suggs rest days.

If those guards are gone and they can't find a trade, hoping Maluach or Newell fall or grabbing Sorber would probably be my next choices. Newell might be a 4 right now, but to me the value would be too good to pass on at 15.

Kind of where I am at right now.
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Post#350 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:07 pm



If we go big with our pick.... I'm down for another "colorado old man" lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#351 » by RookieStar » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:18 pm

To those wanting Wolf....

His offensive BBIQ reminds me of a bigger Jingles... hmmmmm....
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Post#352 » by eyriq » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:25 pm

RookieStar wrote:To those wanting Wolf....

His offensive BBIQ reminds me of a bigger Jingles... hmmmmm....
I'm not that impressed watching him, has a solid whiff of lumbering to him
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Post#353 » by RookieStar » Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:44 am

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RookieStar wrote:To those wanting Wolf....

His offensive BBIQ reminds me of a bigger Jingles... hmmmmm....
I'm not that impressed watching him, has a solid whiff of lumbering to him


Exactly! Im not that impressed as well.

But TBF... he has some good points and being a 7foot Jingles bbiq is one of them. Too bad he probably jas the slow speed as well. Lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#354 » by Idiosyncratic » Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:49 am

eyriq wrote:
RookieStar wrote:To those wanting Wolf....

His offensive BBIQ reminds me of a bigger Jingles... hmmmmm....
I'm not that impressed watching him, has a solid whiff of lumbering to him


Not my favorite, I could see him in NBA spacing being a decent connective center capable of hitting a 3 like Olynyk or Jaylin Williams. Late 1st for me. He makes some impressive sharp movements for his size, decent nose for rebounding despite the finesse in his game. He's a real prospect, but not high on my list for this team.

Big man Ingles isn't a bad comparison.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#355 » by MMFla » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:18 pm

I still really like Essengue and Fears along with Carter Bryant. But guys who have impressed me: Walter Clayton Jr., JT Toppin, Will Riley, Mark Sears, Alex Condon. Still feel like we trade our 2nds though which sucks since there's talent there, would rather use a 2nd on someone than sign/play Gary Harris.
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Post#356 » by Idiosyncratic » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:39 pm

MMFla wrote:I still really like Essengue and Fears along with Carter Bryant. But guys who have impressed me: Walter Clayton Jr., JT Toppin, Will Riley, Mark Sears, Alex Condon. Still feel like we trade our 2nds though which sucks since there's talent there, would rather use a 2nd on someone than sign/play Gary Harris.


Yeah I agree, this is definitely a year to use a 2nd and even explore undrafted guys to replace Caleb and Harris roster spots. I hope they do.
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Post#357 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:56 pm

I would like us to add some athleticism, considering for a young team, our athleticism is genuinely lacking on this team
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Post#358 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:57 pm

This is a great draft to have 2 1sts in, a place for Weltham to redeem himself for his mishaps in the 2023 draft
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Post#359 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:20 pm

Give me Clayton Jr in the 2nd round, cold blooded
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Post#360 » by doct3r dr3 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:35 pm

2025 Draft n00b here -- this Clayton kid looks pretty good!
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