Cold Shooting Celts Get Burned! Loss vs MIA 4/2

[Fierce1]

JB should realize even if he plays 65 games, he's not having an All-NBA season.

Might as well sit and get ready for the playoffs.

Who knows, JB might end up getting another individual trophy in May.

[He_Got_Game]

Another example tonight as to why tatum will never win an mvp. He has some haters out there because of this reason. Inconsistency.

Take a chill pill. The dude is TIRED. He smoked a wide open layup because he had no lift. I'll never understand why people care so much about MVP. All of the discussion surrounding MVP is a waste of time and is meant for casuals.

[Jellybeans]

Jesus someone talk to JB or take away his keys for arena.
Hes clearly not oke but he keeps playing

[Triple7]

We are playing better when Jb isn’t playing. Well at least he can defend the others team best player in the playoffs.

[Jammer]

Besides the obvious importance of Zinger, Holiday and Horford;

and the fatigue factor affect on players like Tatum and Pritch,

and the health questions surrounding JB,

you have to wonder if some of the Celtics live off the attention that their teammates draw. I'm particularly concerned by the poor showings of Hauser, Peterson, Scheierman, Craig (who was simply off with his shot) and Pritch. These guys live off open looks/lanes that their teammates create. When the Celtics are less than full strength it seems to attenuate their usefulness, like turning down a guitar amp.

[Green89]

I thought the first run for TC wasn’t bad, he snatched a couple O boards, but we didn’t hit the shots, the 2nd stint was a massacre. Still didn’t realize he was -23 until CG mentioned it. Don’t know if he was the main reason for that or was it a bad plan to go small with him. I think Bam heated up then, but I can’t really say for sure. Their offense seemed easy for them when we went small. Korny did get the fouls and we weren’t killing it with Queta either, probably needed to see if X could do something.

I feel like Tillman has fallen out of favor with Joe. He just doesn't play him. Probably the only reason he did the other night was playing back for his old team, as he may have had spectators on hand and Joe gave him some PT.

[FlatearthZorro]

Somewhat of a meaningless game.... We've clinched the #3 overall seed. Reaching 60 wins would be freaking nice, but we'd have to go 4-2 in the last 6 and I don't see much of a point. Just rest the guys.

[kivancb]

The only good part of this loss is it has increased the possibility of a first round matchup with us vs the Heat.
I am not slightly intimated by any of our potential opponents, but the Heat would be the easiest for us. Besides it is always better to beat the Heat.

[cl2117]

Super disappointing that we've got JB out there playing through pain, just really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's a situation where what he's dealing with is going to be a reality for him through the post-season so he's just getting acclimated, but even then I don't see how additional rest can't be a good thing for him (although I'm even less of a doctor than I am a basketball coach).

Is there a minimum number of minutes to play for a game to count towards the 65 game threshold? Just play him a token number of minutes and sit him the rest. Be blatant about it, at this stage I don't think you're getting fined if he makes the start and doesn't come back after you sub him out the first time.

Glad we got some rest for a few of the other guys though.

Big thing that stood out to me was the gap between Kornet and Queta. Neemi still looks so incredibly raw in comparison. I've got high hopes for him nonetheless, but as I'm coming to terms with the idea that we might lose Luke to a bigger payday that drop off is becoming more apparent.

Quiet night from Baylor, but one thing that has me really excited is his ability to catch the ball, keep it high and go up for the three. Incredibly difficult to master and in the last few games he's done it multiple times. Sam can do the same thing which is what makes him so deadly if given any space.

Keen to see more of the bench mob and two-ways down this stretch of meaningless games.

[Fierce1]

Super disappointing that we've got JB out there playing through pain, just really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's a situation where what he's dealing with is going to be a reality for him through the post-season so he's just getting acclimated, but even then I don't see how additional rest can't be a good thing for him (although I'm even less of a doctor than I am a basketball coach).

Is there a minimum number of minutes to play for a game to count towards the 65 game threshold? Just play him a token number of minutes and sit him the rest. Be blatant about it, at this stage I don't think you're getting fined if he makes the start and doesn't come back after you sub him out the first time.

Glad we got some rest for a few of the other guys though.

Big thing that stood out to me was the gap between Kornet and Queta. Neemi still looks so incredibly raw in comparison. I've got high hopes for him nonetheless, but as I'm coming to terms with the idea that we might lose Luke to a bigger payday that drop off is becoming more apparent.

Quiet night from Baylor, but one thing that has me really excited is his ability to catch the ball, keep it high and go up for the three. Incredibly difficult to master and in the last few games he's done it multiple times. Sam can do the same thing which is what makes him so deadly if given any space.

Keen to see more of the bench mob and two-ways down this stretch of meaningless games.

Minimum of 20 minutes to be counted as a game played for the 65 games minimum.

[lon3lytoaster]

Another example tonight as to why tatum will never win an mvp. He has some haters out there because of this reason. Inconsistency.

Take a chill pill. The dude is TIRED. He smoked a wide open layup because he had no lift. I'll never understand why people care so much about MVP. All of the discussion surrounding MVP is a waste of time and is meant for casuals.

Hopefully he can get some rest in. I might trust this team more on the road this year in the playoffs on paper but with Holiday, White and JT having such an insanely long summer I think there's a fair chance, especially with our health this year that we burn out in the later rounds of the playoffs. Not hoping for that obviously, but winning back-to-backs with an added on olympic run for three of your top-five is going to be especially hard.

[ThePigeon]

Another example tonight as to why tatum will never win an mvp. He has some haters out there because of this reason. Inconsistency.

I watched Shai play yesterday. He is talented and the OKC style of play gets him a lot of uncontested layups.
BUT - the calls he gets are ridiculous. If JT would have gotten these calls he would be first in the MVP ladder

Also, JT is the most harassed and hacked players in the league. You can see it while he plays P&R with White. When he sets the screen he is being pushed with two hands (a foul I presume), a foot kick between his feet, when he gets the ball he is being hacked etc
Just watch it

I get why he is mad at the referees. Bums all over the league gets calls that he doesn't

[Fierce1]

Just play through contact.

It's useless blaming the refs because it's beyond the control of the players and coaches.

When I was playing ball, I loved the physical play and if I get a call then great.

But the priority should be making the shot, foul or no foul.

Time will come when JT gets those calls, but for now, just focus on making the shot.

Arguing with the refs and getting technical fouls will only hurt the team.

[cl2117]

Super disappointing that we've got JB out there playing through pain, just really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's a situation where what he's dealing with is going to be a reality for him through the post-season so he's just getting acclimated, but even then I don't see how additional rest can't be a good thing for him (although I'm even less of a doctor than I am a basketball coach).

Is there a minimum number of minutes to play for a game to count towards the 65 game threshold? Just play him a token number of minutes and sit him the rest. Be blatant about it, at this stage I don't think you're getting fined if he makes the start and doesn't come back after you sub him out the first time.

Glad we got some rest for a few of the other guys though.

Big thing that stood out to me was the gap between Kornet and Queta. Neemi still looks so incredibly raw in comparison. I've got high hopes for him nonetheless, but as I'm coming to terms with the idea that we might lose Luke to a bigger payday that drop off is becoming more apparent.

Quiet night from Baylor, but one thing that has me really excited is his ability to catch the ball, keep it high and go up for the three. Incredibly difficult to master and in the last few games he's done it multiple times. Sam can do the same thing which is what makes him so deadly if given any space.

Keen to see more of the bench mob and two-ways down this stretch of meaningless games.

Minimum of 20 minutes to be counted as a game played for the 65 games minimum.

That feels like a nice happy medium here. Let him get 20 minutes no more/no less. He hits his 65 game target but also gets some rest. Play him in garbage time if you have to and let him sit in the corner.

[Gant]

Game summary: Maybe don't trade Holiday or Porzingis.

[ThePigeon]

Just play through contact.

It's useless blaming the refs because it's beyond the control of the players and coaches.

When I was playing ball, I loved the physical play and if I get a call then great.

But the priority should be making the shot, foul or no foul.

Time will come when JT gets those calls, but for now, just focus on making the shot.

Arguing with the refs and getting technical fouls will only hurt the team.

Well, he certainly tries
Sometime it works, and sometimes it doesn't
I get his frustration though. Certain players get calls he only dream of

Same thing with KP. Each game he gets at least one offensive foul called because a smaller player is guarding with his face while hacking and pushing before he gets the ball without any call

Blaming the refs is my way of venting. I know that if an AI with a camera was refereeing - the calls would have been different

[playa-hater]

Effort or lack there-of, will always be the number 1 killer of Wins. Whatever. At this point everyone can agree, it's all about the playoffs and what they do then.

[Fencer reregistered]

Read on Twitter

SIT HIM FOR **** SAKES

Tatum has set the precedent for refusing to sit out even when he should.

[Fierce1]

Just play through contact.

It's useless blaming the refs because it's beyond the control of the players and coaches.

When I was playing ball, I loved the physical play and if I get a call then great.

But the priority should be making the shot, foul or no foul.

Time will come when JT gets those calls, but for now, just focus on making the shot.

Arguing with the refs and getting technical fouls will only hurt the team.

Well, he certainly tries
Sometime it works, and sometimes it doesn't
I get his frustration though. Certain players get calls he only dream of

Same thing with KP. Each game he gets at least one offensive foul called because a smaller player is guarding with his face while hacking and pushing before he gets the ball without any call

Blaming the refs is my way of venting. I know that if an AI with a camera was refereeing - the calls would have been different

Fans blaming the refs is fine.

Players getting technical fouls because of too much complaining to the refs is a losing battle.

Coaches getting techs is normal if it's not on a regular basis.

Horford is doing it right.
He says his piece to the refs then that's it.
Don't get a tech.

JT's been getting a number of techs this season.

I think part of the reason why the refs are not giving him more calls is he's trying to get fouls instead of just trying to make the shot.
The refs will not reward that.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Well at least Kornet dominating the Bam match up was fun. The rest not so much.

Queta seems like a good teammate and has a cool backstory so I don't want to be too harsh on him but it doesn't seem like he is making much progress in recent months and I always wonder if he can read the game fast enough to play more meaningful minutes.