Blue Jays vs. Mariners, April 18-20

[Randle McMurphy]

What? Did you want Kirk to fire that ball into the runner’s back? He put it right in front of Vlad with an angle. It was a short hop. Not 100% easy, of course, but something the face of our franchise should make.

I would prefer Kirk not turf his throw and throw it at the fielder without it hitting the ground, yeah. That would be the minimum I would ask there.

You’re nuts. He was behind the baseline. There was no path to throw to the right with the runner having the lane.So he placed it in fair territory without either hitting the runner or launching it into right field. VLads play was 10x less difficult than Bo’s.

You’re right, it was difficult. But winning sometimes demands a good play or two. Unless you don’t demand winning plays from the man who loves Canada.

Don't throw the ball in the dirt and ask a bad fielder to make a difficult short hop play. It's on Kirk, he can make that throw in his sleep and he didn't.

[Randle McMurphy]

Watching that replay, yea Kirk's throw wasn't great, but Vlad needs to pick that. Rowdy made a couple of picks that were even more tougher. Vlad gotta make that play.

No fielder (especially not one as bad as Vlad) can be expected to make a short hop play like that, it's why the error is always called on the person who turfs the throw and not the player who can't corral it.

[SharoneWright]

I would prefer Kirk not turf his throw and throw it at the fielder without it hitting the ground, yeah. That would be the minimum I would ask there.

You’re nuts. He was behind the baseline. There was no path to throw to the right with the runner having the lane.So he placed it in fair territory without either hitting the runner or launching it into right field. VLads play was 10x less difficult than Bo’s.

You’re right, it was difficult. But winning sometimes demands a good play or two. Unless you don’t demand winning plays from the man who loves Canada.

Don't throw the ball in the dirt and ask a bad fielder to make a difficult short hop play. It's on Kirk, he can make that throw in his sleep and he didn't.

Kirk met Vlad more than halfway. Easily.

[Hottie McShotty]

Watching that replay, yea Kirk's throw wasn't great, but Vlad needs to pick that. Rowdy made a couple of picks that were even more tougher. Vlad gotta make that play.

$500 Million baby! He's a fraud and the Jays got robbed..

[SharoneWright]

Watching that replay, yea Kirk's throw wasn't great, but Vlad needs to pick that. Rowdy made a couple of picks that were even more tougher. Vlad gotta make that play.

No fielder (especially not one as bad as Vlad) can be expected to make a short hop play like that

#LosingCulture

[Boogie!]

We couldn’t score one measly run… I honestly don’t give a **** about the defense at this point, they had so many **** chances to end it in the bottom half of extra innings.

[Randle McMurphy]

You’re nuts. He was behind the baseline. There was no path to throw to the right with the runner having the lane.So he placed it in fair territory without either hitting the runner or launching it into right field. VLads play was 10x less difficult than Bo’s.

You’re right, it was difficult. But winning sometimes demands a good play or two. Unless you don’t demand winning plays from the man who loves Canada.

Don't throw the ball in the dirt and ask a bad fielder to make a difficult short hop play. It's on Kirk, he can make that throw in his sleep and he didn't.

Kirk met Vlad more than halfway. Easily.

More than halfway would be keeping the ball in the air and not making your trash 1B (who can't even catch every ball in the air as we've seen) from having to make a difficult play off the ground.

[Hottie McShotty]

They had chances to win the game and they chocked! We are lucky our starting pitching is good this year or else we'd be right at the bottom of our division.

[Mehar]

Off topic- but why save guys like Garcia and Hoffman for tomorrow? They are facing another tough pitcher in Luis Castillo, while we have Easton Lucas (who got clobbered by a struggling Braves team).

We might not even use Garcia and Hoffman tomorrow if tomorrow's game resembles the Braves game. I would also have pinch hit for Roden given his tough day with a guy like Tyler Heineman, with the runner on third and this team just needing a Sac Fly to win.

[SharoneWright]

Don't throw the ball in the dirt and ask a bad fielder to make a difficult short hop play. It's on Kirk, he can make that throw in his sleep and he didn't.

Kirk met Vlad more than halfway. Easily.

More than halfway would be keeping the ball in the air and not making your trash 1B (who can't even catch every ball in the air as we've seen) from having to make a difficult play off the ground.

Kirk needs to manage his own play AND make up for all of Vlad’s deficiencies?

If so, stick Vlad at DH already… and give Kirky a break from the unjustified fan outrage.

[Randle McMurphy]

Kirk met Vlad more than halfway. Easily.

More than halfway would be keeping the ball in the air and not making your trash 1B (who can't even catch every ball in the air as we've seen) from having to make a difficult play off the ground.

Kirk needs to manage his own play AND make up for all of Vlad’s deficiencies?

If so, stick Vlad at DH already… and give Kirky a break from the unjustified fan outrage.

He needs to throw the ball to first base in the air, yes.

And I’m not outraged at anybody but the FO and the puppet manager for today’s game. If you build a team with no power, roster Jacob Barnes for no real reason and have a manager with no feel for the game, this is gonna often be the result.

[Mehar]

At least Scrub Jacob Barnes did a better job than Jordan Romano today. Phillies were leading 11-4 in the 9th Inning when Romano came in and got only two outs, while surrendering 6 hits and 6 Runs before being pulled by the manager. Luckily, Philly got one more out with a different reliever and won 11-10. It is possible that Romano will also be DFA in the coming weeks if he cannot turn it around.

Maybe the Jays then give him another Minor League deal to work on his stuff in Buffalo, with Philly on the hook for the 8.5 million they owe him this year. He is still a better option (as bad as he has been so far) than a scrub like Barnes. Hoping Swanson can revert back to his 2023 form, which would really further strengthen the bullpen. The bullpen and the starting pitching is the only reason why this team is over .500. It damn sure is not the pathetic, no power, singles hitting offense which has sucked with Runners In Scoring Position almost one month into the season.

[JaysRule15]

Jacob Barnes DFA'd praise the Lord. Pretty much anyone who replaces him will be better I'm sure.

[Mehar]

Jacob Barnes DFA'd praise the Lord. Pretty much anyone who replaces him will be better I'm sure.

Sucks to see Sandlin placed on the 15 Day DL. Dillon Tate was pretty underwhelming last year, but he is still a better option than Barnes. How Barnes made this roster after his terrible Spring is beyond me.

Thankfully, the front office realized their mistake. Erik Swanson heading to a rehab assignment soon. Just hoping he can revert back to 2023 Swanson. Nathan Lukes and Roden should ideally be in Buffalo also.

[bartron_44]

Im curious how much longer they can continue to give Kirk the lion’s share of the PAs when TH has an OPS almost double, is a switch hitter, and not an automatic DP on anything hit on the ground. I haven’t seen the effects of elite framing this year. It almost always seems like we are constantly missing strikes we should get, not getting strikes we shouldn’t. And last but not least… he is throwing runners out at an even better clip than Kirk!


Not saying it would last all season, but I think you need to ride the hot hand while its there. At least start playing him 50% of the time while he’s hitting better than Kirk.

[Mehar]

Im curious how much longer they can continue to give Kirk the lion’s share of the PAs when TH has an OPS almost double, is a switch hitter, and not an automatic DP on anything hit on the ground. I haven’t seen the effects of elite framing this year. It almost always seems like we are constantly missing strikes we should get, not getting strikes we shouldn’t. And last but not least… he is throwing runners out at an even better clip than Kirk!


Not saying it would last all season, but I think you need to ride the hot hand while its there. At least start playing him 50% of the time while he’s hitting better than Kirk.

No reason why Heineman should not be used in more pinch hitting situations (especially yesterday's game) with a guy like Roden hitting and all you needed was a Fly Ball to win the game with the runner on third. With this team's inability to drive in runs at crucial moments, Heineman should not be playing every 5 days. Have more games with Kirk as DH, Santander in RF, Springer in CF, and Heineman as C, as opposed to guys like Lukes and Roden getting the outfield duties.

[Madvillainy2004]

Yeah this might be Lucas last start this year lmao

Edit: this is definitely his last start lmao

[rarefind]

We may need to trade for another starter this week.

[T-d0t]

Media was celebrating Lucas too early on

[Mehar]

Yeah this might be Lucas last start this year lmao

Edit: this is definitely his last start lmao

That is why it made no sense to rest Hoffman and Garcia yesterday, and save them both for today.