2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 1: (7) Orlando Magic at (2) Boston Celtics - 3:30pm ET

[OnlyFranz22]

I'd trade anyone besides Paolo and as many picks it takes to snag Booker.

Booker/Paolo

Would be awesome

[George3265]

The next time I hear Weltman and his sniffling nose.....it better be about a major trade happening.

[OnlyFranz22]

Paolo & Franz: 59 points, 24-51 FG, 5-13 3P
Rest of Team: 27 points, 10-30 FG, 5-14 3P

... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

One of these things begets the other...

Yea it’s called, damnnnnn we all we got

Great work Front Office

Imagine looking down the bench and seeing no vets available (Cole is not a vet )

[eyriq]

The balance tips in favor of win-now starting this offseason though, IMO.

This is an incredibly silly perspective. I have no idea where people come up with these takes.

Its a perspective based on how the rebuilding process works.

1. Teardown (Year 0, for Orlando 2021)
2. Asset accumulation and development (Years 1-2, for Orlando 2022 and 2023)
3. Establishing a competitive core (Year 3-4, for Orlando 2024, 2025)
4. Transition to contention (Years 4-5, for Orlando 2026 and 2027)
5. Sustained success or reassessment (years 6+, for Orlando this starts in 2028)

We are finishing year 4 of our rebuild and are ready to transition to contention, which means valuing win-now moves over future oriented moves going forward.

[Rainwater]

I’m amazed at all the angry back & forth. The Magic aren’t winning this series and I’ll be shocked if they win a game.

This team is badly flawed and had no business in the playoffs. They need a new GM, several new players and yes, probably a new coach. But the new coach is far less important than the other 2 areas.

Orlando is definitely a playoff team. I would honestly take them over most teams in the east outside of Bost, Mil, NY and Cleveland. The issue is Boston is just a better team.

Okay….

What about the West?

Why does the West matter? You said the Magic had no business in the playoffs, and the magic can't qualify for the western conference playoffs.

[OnlyFranz22]

Orlando is definitely a playoff team. I would honestly take them over most teams in the east outside of Bost, Mil, NY and Cleveland. The issue is Boston is just a better team.

Okay….

What about the West?

Why does the West matter? You side the Magic had business in the playoffs, hence why I mention eastern conference teams.

Has nothing to do with the playoffs. I’m just saying how many teams do you rank before the Magic when it comes to the east and west.

That’s kind of important from a competitive standpoint

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

AB not showing up in the playoffs was my gripe last playoffs. I have absolutely no idea WHY we would not play him last year. Now, I have the same gripe with TDS and Goga not getting minutes. If these guys are going to be with us next year, play them in this series it will be invaluable for them going forward.

[Knightro]

Rest of Team: 27 points, 10-30 FG, 5-14 3P

10 other players played besides Paolo and Franz and they took 30 shots in 160 combined minutes.

The odds of any of them, all of them role players too, getting into any sort of rhythm or being effective at that little volume is just so low.

[Rainwater]

Okay….

What about the West?

Why does the West matter? You side the Magic had business in the playoffs, hence why I mention eastern conference teams.

Has nothing to do with the playoffs. I’m just saying how many teams do you rank before the Magic when it comes to the east and west.

That’s kind of important from a competitive standpoint

You said the Magic had no business in the playoffs? Hence my response. The Magic can't qualify for the western conference playoffs, to me the west doesn't make a difference.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Rest of Team: 27 points, 10-30 FG, 5-14 3P

10 other players played besides Paolo and Franz and they took 30 shots in 160 combined minutes.

The odds of any of them, all of them role players too, getting into any sort of rhythm or being effective at that little volume is just so low.

What exactly is stopping them from putting up shots? I feel like whenever their open shots don’t go in, they don’t even bother trying.

[Bergmaniac]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

Effort is not the problem, we just don't have other players with the skills needed to really trouble an elite playoff defence.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

Effort is not the problem, we just don't have other players with the skills needed to really trouble an elite playoff defence.

What skill do you need to hit a wide open shot or make it at the rim.

[Rainwater]

Anyway, game is over. I feel like the Paolo and Franz will have a great next season.

[Knightro]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

You're doing that thing again where you conflate scoring points with giving effort.

The effort generally speaking was fine. The ball movement wasn't particularly good. Paolo and Franz had 39% and 37% usage rates.

The role players barely touched the ball all things considered.

[Bergmaniac]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

Effort is not the problem, we just don't have other players with the skills needed to really trouble an elite playoff defence.

What skill do you need to hit a wide open shot or make it at the rim.

The only ones who were getting open looks from 3 were Wendell and Franz because the Celtics were daring them above the break ones.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I am still confused how Franz and Paolo, a 22 and 23 year old, can show up and give effort in the playoffs, but other players who have more experience have no idea how to do that.

You're doing that thing again where you conflate scoring points with giving effort.

The effort generally speaking was fine. The ball movement wasn't particularly good. Paolo and Franz had 39% and 37% usage rates.

The role players barely touched the ball all things considered.

Maybe I used the wrong word, I probably meant “step up” than effort.

[ogmagicfan]

Anyway, game is over. I feel like the Paolo and Franz will have a great next season.

Agreed.

We've arguably done the hardest part, we have a 1st option & 2nd, outside chance at 3rd option on a championship team in Paolo & Franz.

We just have to build around them.

Kinda what makes it so infuriating the lack of action by our FO. Give them a PG who can shoot volume from 3 and pass the ball well and an athletic center and we'll be contending for a while

[thelead]

Anyway, game is over. I feel like the Paolo and Franz will have a great next season.

Doesn’t matter if the FO doesn’t do their job and Mosley doesn’t install some sort of system that isn’t so heavily reliant on ISO-ball.

[Knightro]

Rest of Team: 27 points, 10-30 FG, 5-14 3P

10 other players played besides Paolo and Franz and they took 30 shots in 160 combined minutes.

The odds of any of them, all of them role players too, getting into any sort of rhythm or being effective at that little volume is just so low.

What exactly is stopping them from putting up shots? I feel like whenever their open shots don’t go in, they don’t even bother trying.

Getting the basketball consistently? The ball not consistently moving? The Celtics' strong defense funneling things where they want them to go?

[Knightro]

Anyway, game is over. I feel like the Paolo and Franz will have a great next season.

Doesn’t matter if the FO doesn’t do their job and Mosley doesn’t install some sort of system that isn’t so heavily reliant on ISO-ball.

The front office endorses what the coaching staff is doing.