PG: that sucked

[K_ick_God]

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wild....

They should rename the Two Minute Report — “Latest Example of League Sanctioned Abuse of the Knicks”

[prophet_of_rage]

Fournier, Walker, Grimes, Obi, Reddish etc disagree with you The entire roster has changed in the last 5-6 years from lottery picks to top free agent signings. Thibs is the only one remaining outside of Mitch and if he could stay healthy he would probably be gone too. He has been winning the battle of player vs coach for years but it may be different this year with the raised expectations.

Mikal has actually been benched in a few 4th quarters this year. He didn't come out and complain about that but he did complain about playing too many minutes and the bench guys like Shamet and others not getting an opportunity.

Fournier expiring. The rest were rookie contracts who did not make more thab Thibs. You are proving my point.

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Fournier and Walker were the big free agent signings of 2021. Kemba was benched after a few months. Fournier was benched a year later. Evan's bloated contract rotted on the bench for a couple years.

They traded a protected 1st for Reddish. Thibs didn't even attempt to play him until year 2.

Obi was a lottery pick and Sam Rose's client. He and Thibs clearly had issues.

Grimes was supposed to be the 2 guard of the future and was untouchable in a potential Donovan Mitchell package. He was eventually benched and traded.

He played Payne over Bridges in Game 1 in the 4th. He said he played Mitch over KAT in the first half of game 2 because Mitch was the only one rebounding.

How can you pretend Thibs is in danger of losing his job by simply cutting a player's minutes when he has done it many times before from lottery picks to big free agent signings?

It's impossible to explain Thibs' decision making since it doesn't make sense sometimes. We just won a game in large part because of Payne's contribution in the 4th quarter of game 1. In game 2 Thibs gave him a DNP in the 2nd half after the shortened rotation scored 18 points in the 3rd quarter and he decided to stick with it the entire 2nd half. Something that succeeded in game 1 he did not even attempt for a single minute in game 2. Why?

Because Payne was a foul machine in the first half. 4 fouls and he wasn't hot. 1 year contract guy. Adios. Note that doesn't happen ever to KAT, JB, Hart, Deuce, Mitch or OG. Too.much money. Too much influence.

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It was evident.

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[whocares1]

I’d literally rather watch KAT shoot half a dozen contested 3s and barrel in for another half dozen near offensives than watch JB inexplicably increase his usage rate by a lot just because it’s the playoffs.

Makes zero sense.

Listen i don’t like the sound of either but if you think im trusting Towns…over Jalen Brunson…the guy who literally is about to win clutch player of the year. The guy that dropped 40 for like 5 straight games that hadn’t been done since LeBron James…yea i think id be pretty delusional.

One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.

That’s not why they lost. He didn’t play into their hands. Their defense is centered around focusing on him bc they already have everyone cornered. Would you prefer a Josh hart semi contested three? What about a wide open Mikal cardio three? What about a Towns trying to drive into two people from the three point line? What about an iso OG step back middy?

They exhaust Brunson bc they have to. If you think it’s just Brunson saying he wants to hijack the offense I don’t know what to tell you.

[Fury]

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The GOAT making some good points

[GettinitDone]

Man C's are banged up

If there's a motivation for the Knicks to regroup and beat Pistons because they may have a chance now vs C's if Tatum and Brown aren't 100%

Sad excuse but whatever it takes to win, injuries are part of the game, and when you go to ECF vs Cavs anything can happen, and if we go far all the way to the Finals momentum and camaraderie can dramatically shift in our favor

[dakomish23]

Listen i don’t like the sound of either but if you think im trusting Towns…over Jalen Brunson…the guy who literally is about to win clutch player of the year. The guy that dropped 40 for like 5 straight games that hadn’t been done since LeBron James…yea i think id be pretty delusional.

One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.

That’s not why they lost. He didn’t play into their hands. Their defense is centered around focusing on him bc they already have everyone cornered. Would you prefer a Josh hart semi contested three? What about a wide open Mikal cardio three? What about a Towns trying to drive into two people from the three point line? What about an iso OG step back middy?

They exhaust Brunson bc they have to. If you think it’s just Brunson saying he wants to hijack the offense I don’t know what to tell you.

This is unequivocally false. They choose to run this much Brunson on ball time and how you’re still in denial of it after last night is wild

[K_ick_God]

Listen i don’t like the sound of either but if you think im trusting Towns…over Jalen Brunson…the guy who literally is about to win clutch player of the year. The guy that dropped 40 for like 5 straight games that hadn’t been done since LeBron James…yea i think id be pretty delusional.

One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.

That’s not why they lost. He didn’t play into their hands. Their defense is centered around focusing on him bc they already have everyone cornered. Would you prefer a Josh hart semi contested three? What about a wide open Mikal cardio three? What about a Towns trying to drive into two people from the three point line? What about an iso OG step back middy?

They exhaust Brunson bc they have to. If you think it’s just Brunson saying he wants to hijack the offense I don’t know what to tell you.

Yeah I already said exactly that — I prefer KAT driving in from the 3 point line a dozen times, and launching another half dozen threes. I don’t see how you could not want that. Do you think JB shooting more will work one day?

Here we go with the Wait for it to click eternal dreaming.

I never said he “wants to hijack” — those are your words. But if he’s not looking to pick apart Detroit using the other options, he’s not gonna win. Term it whatever you like. But it’s not gonna click or work.

What else matters. His motivations we don’t know: we do know everybody and his brother can see G2 was a disaster. Guess what? G1 was a disaster too and I said so in the PG thread. For exactly the reason that caused the obvious disaster in G2.

Who really cares what his motivations are or why Thibs is allowing it or whether Thibs can stop it. A one man game isn’t beating a mediocre team or a decent team.

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It was evident.

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it was live...I knew he got hit

but this angle is egregious for the refs to miss this.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

My guy out here winning g league wars for Long Island


Who is this redacted player you speak of??

As the great philosopher Vincent Diesel said -

“it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning!”

Last I checked, if I'm in the g-league so are you . As for REDACTED? I don't know who you're talking about officer, can you give me a name to jog my memory?

idgaf about the thibs wars if im being honest. you can fire him for all i care lol

you mentioned redacted sir, i have no idea who that is!!

Nah, you're not about to skate to Argentina hiding from the Thibs wars. You were a 5 star general in his defense and now that you see the tide turning you're trying to escape, you're being brought up on charges just the same.


Can you give me a hint? I've been saying REDACTED so long that I forgot his name.

[K_ick_God]

TBF they often don’t call the late foul on an easy dunk

They’d call it on us yeah but I wasn’t surprised they didn’t call it

[TKKnicks1]

Whos watching the Pacers game? Jealous of that balance scoring the starting 5 got right now. That was literally us earlier this season when our offense actually looked like an offense.

[Gravy]

You play a center Gravy, you play Mitch and KAT together if they're going to guard Josh with a C. The only way Josh can get around that is making a bunch of threes that makes Duren come out and guard him, or you take him off the floor and replace him with a big that makes it harder for them to switch on screens, and opens them up to rebounds. It also allows us to do exactly the same thing to them, which is guard Ausar with a C.


They play 2 non shooters...at the same time.

Mitch had zero points in 20 minutes, the roster needs players that can score. When Brunson is the only reliable scorer on the team there isnt much you can do.

It's like you have no idea what you're watching. Josh had a 93.9 ORTG in that game, Mitch had a 102.5 ORTG. You were told of an adjustment they could try, and you're saying why bother because he didn't score, even though the offense ran better with him on the floor than it did with Josh. Nevermind it stops them from getting second chances, or gives us second chances or that we'd be bigger than them since our starting 5 is smaller and less athletic.

I could explain in depth, but it's pointles, you're really saying the Pistons are more talented and there's nothing we can do, what a joke.

I said we need more consistent scoring options than Brunson. Mikal is bricking wide open threes and KAT is too shook to take a shot. Soft players man

[TKKnicks1]

Whos watching the Pacers game? Jealous of that balance scoring the starting 5 got right now. That was literally us earlier this season when our offense actually looked like an offense.

And oh ya... They always play 10 deep so everyone is always fresh. I don't even think Rick is a good coach overall but he really got his boys playing their best basketball of the season right now.

[K_ick_God]

They would have called the foul if Hart missed it

It’s not an honest way to ref but that’s how they ref — on a late contest they let it go

But a foul should be a foul

[whocares1]

One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.

That’s not why they lost. He didn’t play into their hands. Their defense is centered around focusing on him bc they already have everyone cornered. Would you prefer a Josh hart semi contested three? What about a wide open Mikal cardio three? What about a Towns trying to drive into two people from the three point line? What about an iso OG step back middy?

They exhaust Brunson bc they have to. If you think it’s just Brunson saying he wants to hijack the offense I don’t know what to tell you.

This is unequivocally false. They choose to run this much Brunson on ball time and how you’re still in denial of it after last night is wild

I’m in denial…holy **** read the comment. I’m saying what is the alternative? They choose to run Brunson in a heliocentric way bc it’s the best thing that has worked for this team. We do not have other creators on the court anymore. We have a coach that can’t create new offensive schemes. His best option is Brunson iso and until Thibs develops an offensive mind, I’m going to have to agree with him. When the defense is locked down who is creating shots for himself or others better than Brunson or even..who is even capable besides Brunson in the starting 5 consistently?

[K_ick_God]

But how can you say that when KAT went semi-nuts to end G1. This is just a silly conversation

[whocares1]

One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.

That’s not why they lost. He didn’t play into their hands. Their defense is centered around focusing on him bc they already have everyone cornered. Would you prefer a Josh hart semi contested three? What about a wide open Mikal cardio three? What about a Towns trying to drive into two people from the three point line? What about an iso OG step back middy?

They exhaust Brunson bc they have to. If you think it’s just Brunson saying he wants to hijack the offense I don’t know what to tell you.

Yeah I already said exactly that — I prefer KAT driving in from the 3 point line a dozen times, and launching another half dozen threes. I don’t see how you could not want that. Do you think JB shooting more will work one day?

Here we go with the Wait for it to click eternal dreaming.

I never said he “wants to hijack” — those are your words. But if he’s not looking to pick apart Detroit using the other options, he’s not gonna win. Term it whatever you like. But it’s not gonna click or work.

What else matters. His motivations we don’t know: we do know everybody and his brother can see G2 was a disaster. Guess what? G1 was a disaster too and I said so in the PG thread. For exactly the reason that caused the obvious disaster in G2.

Who really cares what his motivations are or why Thibs is allowing it or whether Thibs can stop it. A one man game isn’t beating a mediocre team or a decent team.

Okay then I disagree completely bc Towns has never won a series ever in his whole life as the best player. If I’m wrong I’ll take it back but not sure Minny has ever won a series with KAT as the best player. I like Towns but it isn’t in his DNA to force up shots. If he misses 2-3 badly he loses confidence. You can’t force someone to shoot. You can say “I rather Towns do this..” when Brunson has won this team multiple playoff series and Towns has never even won one series his whole life I’m just not going to take that suggestion seriously.

[K_ick_God]

The “best option” thing is not the whole truth

It’s not how the game works … by your statement, Michael Jordan should have taken all 80 shots every game

This is junk lol

[Jeff Van Gully]

Whos watching the Pacers game? Jealous of that balance scoring the starting 5 got right now. That was literally us earlier this season when our offense actually looked like an offense.

That’s wild. Top 5 offense or something, right? Who was coaching the Knicks then?