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Re: 2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 2: (7) Orlando Magic at (2) Boston Celtics - 7pm ET 

Post#721 » by Rainwater » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:00 am

Knightro wrote:The adjustments within this series are pretty meaningless. The Magic are getting swept or maybe snaking one of the two upcoming home games.

The bigger question is who are the for sure keepers moving forward?

I have a bad feeling the Magic's front office feels much more strongly about certain guys than they should as long-term pieces.


The only keepers should be Paolo, Suggs, Franz, and Black in a bench role. But the guard play, center spot, and attaining a sixth man should be addressed. I am really hoping for a completely different team surrounding Paolo and Franz next next year.
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Post#722 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:00 am

With a few more games left, I really do think we should let TDS get some playoff experience. I felt like that last year for AB.
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Post#723 » by TheChaser » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:00 am

Knightro wrote:The adjustments within this series are pretty meaningless. The Magic are getting swept or maybe snaking one of the two upcoming home games.

The bigger question is who are the for sure keepers moving forward?

I have a bad feeling the Magic's front office feels much more strongly about certain guys than they should as long-term pieces.


This all day. Honestly, as I read the board, most of you guys make really good points. But we can’t really debate or argue amongst ourselves when our roster needs so much reconstruction. And if management is telling the truth, we will get it this offseason.
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Post#724 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:01 am

I think Defense wins championships and really like Defense first teams, but the offensive gameplan is absolutely one of the worst I have ever seen. Sad to say, but Mosely may have to go unless he hires an Offensive coordinator with half a brain. Mose is not the type of coach to take them to the next level.
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Post#725 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:01 am

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basketballRob wrote:
OnlyFranz22 wrote:
When?
Wagner and KCP could've hit a few more shots. 1-13 from 3. Paolo could've hit more FTs

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This has been all season though
We don't deserve to win then if they can't do those things. Franz and Paolo need to improve over the summer.

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Post#726 » by Knightro » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:01 am

KillMonger wrote:Cojo is fine but he is getting hunted every time..... How many easy porzingis buckets with him just shooting over the top of a smaller matchup that we're just giving them..... It's like a free easy bucket

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The Magic's game plan defensively is to switch everything so they can limit the Celtics' overall 3PT attempts. They're essentially willing to concede mismatches inside the arc in exchange for fewer 3PT attempts.

But the Celtics have gotten up a ton of threes anyway while still taking full advantage of the mismatches, so it's not really working.
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Post#727 » by ogmagicfan » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:01 am

Most positive development from these first 2 games is that Paolo is undeniably a true #1 option in the NBA.

He's putting up 34, 9.5, & 5.5 on great shooting against the defending champs

He's a playoff riser
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Post#728 » by JF5 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:02 am

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Bensational wrote:Dell has been pretty solid and at times great in recent games. What’s running that is that he seems to need 2-3 minutes of boneheaded play before he activates the beast and the stakes are too high 1 hence other people’s reactions.

I don’t see Goga as a challenger to Dell’s minutes though, I see him taking Cole’s minutes or Isaac’s.


Yeah, I mean I have no problem with Goga taking backup C minutes, although that would come at the expense of Isaac. Just feel like most posters are done with WCJ (which, idc, move on from all of our bigs lol) but it's also like.. the clear gaping hole on this roster is guard production.


That's where I'm at right now... the Centers the Magic are atleast somewhat average/below average and playable depending on matchups.

The guard play is just so atrocious right now it's just dragging everyone else down. You can't win anything when the backcourt is 1-13 from deep and is inept at everything that is offense.

That is the glaring hole right now these first 2 games.
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Post#729 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:02 am

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Bensational wrote:Dell has been pretty solid and at times great in recent games. What’s running that is that he seems to need 2-3 minutes of boneheaded play before he activates the beast and the stakes are too high 1 hence other people’s reactions.

I don’t see Goga as a challenger to Dell’s minutes though, I see him taking Cole’s minutes or Isaac’s.


Yeah, I mean I have no problem with Goga taking backup C minutes, although that would come at the expense of Isaac. Just feel like most posters are done with WCJ (which, idc, move on from all of our bigs lol) but it's also like.. the clear gaping hole on this roster is guard production.


That's where I'm at right now... the Centers the Magic are atleast somewhat average/below average and playable depending on matchups.

The guard play is just so atrocious right now it's just dragging everyone else down. You can't win anything when the backcourt is 1-13 from deep and is inept at everything that is offense.

That is the glaring hole right now these first 2 games.
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Post#730 » by KillMonger » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:03 am

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KillMonger wrote:I said what I said, playoffs you play 8 or 9 and live with it..... Why are we playing 10?


Because we don't have a dependable 8 or 9. Hell, we barely have a dependable 3. A coach's job is to find a spark especially when there are massive runs.

OKC plays 10 because they're deep and mostly dependable. It's also relative to talent on the team.
I feel part of the the problem there is because of no consistency with the lineups there is no chemistry..... There is no rhythm..... Some guys don't know what their roles are.... Okc can get away with it because they play the same guys every time.... With us you may see tds or not.... Caleb or not..... Cole or not.... Goga or not.... I would've rather mose end this season with a more set rotation and build that chemistry going into the post season so guys know who's playing and who they're playing with..... That Atlanta play in game I think Cole said he didn't even know or was surprised he played that game.... Is that not a problem or am I overreacting?

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Post#731 » by shadrock » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:03 am

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shadrock wrote:Imagine being a degensive identity team, and choosing not to play Goga and JI. Literally our grestest strength and we shoot ourself in the foot. WCJ means we dont get stops.

Series over. Fk moseley off hes not upto it.


So how does the team deal with the lack of spacing/scoring with those guys in the game?


No different to the spacing given by WCJ, which is non existant.
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Post#732 » by Rainwater » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:05 am

shadrock wrote:
JF5 wrote:
shadrock wrote:Imagine being a degensive identity team, and choosing not to play Goga and JI. Literally our grestest strength and we shoot ourself in the foot. WCJ means we dont get stops.

Series over. Fk moseley off hes not upto it.


So how does the team deal with the lack of spacing/scoring with those guys in the game?


No different to the spacing given by WCJ, which is non existant.


WCJ was making shots tonight though???

The Magic have to choose between scoring and rebounding with Goga.
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Post#733 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:06 am

Knightro wrote:The adjustments within this series are pretty meaningless. The Magic are getting swept or maybe snaking one of the two upcoming home games.

The bigger question is who are the for sure keepers moving forward?

I have a bad feeling the Magic's front office feels much more strongly about certain guys than they should as long-term pieces.


For sure:
P5
Wagners
Suggs
Black
Houstan
Goga
TDS
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Post#734 » by CLosP » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:08 am

We have all these great contracts on this team so shouldn’t be too hard to improve the team right?
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Post#735 » by VFX » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:08 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Knightro wrote:The adjustments within this series are pretty meaningless. The Magic are getting swept or maybe snaking one of the two upcoming home games.

The bigger question is who are the for sure keepers moving forward?

I have a bad feeling the Magic's front office feels much more strongly about certain guys than they should as long-term pieces.


For sure:
P5
Wagners
Suggs
Black
Houstan
Goga
TDS


This is how I see it too unless they take some huge swing by moving AB, which is just likely not to happen.
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Post#736 » by Rainwater » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Knightro wrote:The adjustments within this series are pretty meaningless. The Magic are getting swept or maybe snaking one of the two upcoming home games.

The bigger question is who are the for sure keepers moving forward?

I have a bad feeling the Magic's front office feels much more strongly about certain guys than they should as long-term pieces.


For sure:
P5
Wagners
Suggs
Black
Houstan
Goga
TDS


Pretty much bringing back the same team lol
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Post#737 » by Knightro » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 am

ibraheim718 wrote:For sure:
P5
Wagners
Suggs
Black
Houstan
Goga
TDS


I think I agree with your list outside of TDS.

He's really wasn't very good this year and is about to turn 24. I'd be willing to put him in the right deal for sure.

My sense is that Weltman has Carter and maybe even Isaac on his keeper list and not Goga.
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Post#738 » by KillMonger » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:11 am

They shot 9 more free throws than us and won by 9 that correct?

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Post#739 » by SOUL » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:12 am

KillMonger wrote:I feel part of the the problem there is because of no consistency with the lineups there is no chemistry..... There is no rhythm..... Some guys don't know what their roles are.... Okc can get away with it because they play the same guys every time.... With us you may see tds or not.... Caleb or not..... Cole or not.... Goga or not.... I would've rather mose end this season with a more set rotation and build that chemistry going into the post season so guys know who's playing and who they're playing with..... That Atlanta play in game I think Cole said he didn't even know or was surprised he played that game.... Is that not a problem or am I overreacting?


I mean the players people want benched are just not going to happen unless you're the Jazz. KCP isn't getting benched, WCJ isn't getting benched. Maybe you can supplant Harris minutes. Otherwise, the rest are players who have been solid at points this year and straight up trash, causing us to lose games we shouldn't lose and force coach's hand to switch up lineups. Everyone has gotten a chance basically to stick at diff points this year. Goga was the only one a bit shafted but he also was diff post-concussion.

To me it's like work. If you're the boss of a company and you have a bunch of guys that are dependable half the days but lately you've been getting complaints from your customers how things are messed up and aren't up to standard.. that boss is under no obligation to limit his confidence to a select few even if it's hurting the team. And yeah, the guy there 15 years who is also messing up probably will get more leeway than the others (KCP).
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Post#740 » by eyriq » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:12 am

Paolo and Franz are playing good enough, and that's really promising. WCJ and AB provided some decent scoring support.

-15 from three and -10 from the line while being +8 from the paint and +8 from mid range. The free throw difference is wild.

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