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2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28

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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28 

Post#561 » by RRR3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:06 am

carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Part of that is pace but yeah haven't had a good offense since 22
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28 

Post#562 » by RRR3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:06 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:#teamTraeYoung

I like Trae but what is he winning with this roster?
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Post#563 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:07 am

carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.
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Post#564 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:07 am

No offensive identity. Theyve been searching for answers all season. None have worked.

Without an alpha we are toast.
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Post#565 » by Umbooki » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:08 am

Shoutouts to Jaime for becoming totally irrelevant in his second season.
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Post#566 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:08 am

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carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.


We need an offensive coordinator.
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Post#567 » by RRR3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:09 am

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carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.

Was it? 3rd in 2011 and 2nd in 2013. 8th in 2012, but that was because Wade missed a ton of time, not really Spo's fault.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28 

Post#568 » by DorianRo » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:09 am

The scary part is the Cavs/Thunder will be even better next year. Some collusion needs to take place to stop that Duopoly madness. Its gonna take way too long for teams to catch up at this rate
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Post#569 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:10 am

Vertical Limit wrote:23/5/5 per game , 48% fg, 46% from 3 point range..

I cant even put Bams stats to compare because hes been playing a lot of garbage minutes. At meaningful minutes hes at a triple single


Your last sentence is false but imagine if everyone made judgement on 4 game samples sizes. Jeremy Lin is better than Kobe
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Post#570 » by dolphinatik » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:10 am

so Spo's answer to the worst franchise playoff loss is to have a loss worse than that one? Any you guys still think he is a good coach?
1. Herro 2. Bol Bol 3. Seko 4. Bruno
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
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Post#571 » by Shewasfly » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:10 am

carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

This I do agree with. When offense looks as painful as it does, it's time for something new.

But again, it is still really hard to say this though. Because the rosters are just so ridiculously bad/mismatched. We have Bam and Herro and then everyone else is literally a rookie, developing young player (Jovi), from the G-league, or fringe NBA players.
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Post#572 » by RRR3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:10 am

dolphinatik wrote:so Spo's answer to the worst franchise playoff loss is to have a loss worse than that one? Any you guys still think he is a good coach?

I'm not even a Spo stan but what coach is not getting swept with this roster against this Cavs team?
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Post#573 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:11 am

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carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.

Was it? 3rd in 2011 and 2nd in 2013. 8th in 2012, but that was because Wade missed a ton of time, not really Spo's fault.

I mean relative to talent level? Even if you give them a pass in 2011 because lack of role players (but Wade was still a top 3-5 player that season, so I can't give them that much of a pass) they were supposed to be head and shoulders above the league. Pretty sure at least one of LeBron's Cleveland seasons (from his first stint even, not his second) they had a better offensive season than the Heat.
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Post#574 » by Flash4thewin » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:11 am

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.


We need an offensive coordinator.


How many years have we been asking for this. Even back in the Wade and Beasley days we asked for an assistant offensive head coach.
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Post#575 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:11 am

You can not compare Herros defense to Bams offense. Holy **** ol girl is firing off some of the worst takes I’ve EVER seen tonight, keep it going!
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Post#576 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:14 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:You can not compare Herros defense to Bams offense. Holy **** ol girl is firing off some of the worst takes I’ve EVER seen tonight, keep it going!

I disagree with some of it (wouldn't even put Kobe on the same tier of LeBron in terms of ATG's) but I'm in no mood to defend Herro or Bam. Both were dreadful this series. But if it makes you feel better, Herro was clearly worse in this one, where the whole team just collectively said "f it" from the beginning of the night (they at least competed for 5 minutes in game 3).
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Post#577 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:15 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.


We need an offensive coordinator.


How many years have we been asking for this. Even back in the Wade and Beasley days we asked for an assistant offensive head coach.


Spo needs help. Its not a bad thing. Everybody does.

We need a different pace and mentality.
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Post#578 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:16 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
We need an offensive coordinator.


How many years have we been asking for this. Even back in the Wade and Beasley days we asked for an assistant offensive head coach.


Spo needs help. Its not a bad thing. Everybody does.

We need a different pace and mentality.

Problem is coaches run in cliques, all the Riley/Heat guys are defensive guys, while the Adelman's/D'antoni's etc have their own tight knit groups. I do have to laugh thinking back to 2010 though and Spo talking up how he watched the Oregon football team and was going to translate that to our offense... how about just hire some good offensive minds for a change, lord knows there's enough that get fired every year you can borrow someone.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28 

Post#579 » by Lord Hades » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:16 am

55 gd points. JFC. At least it's over.

Need some big changes this offseason, personnel and scheme.
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Post#580 » by HeatFanLifer » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:17 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
carnageta wrote:I love Spo. I'm just tired of our offensive sets. Year after year we are the lowest scoring team in the NBA lol.

Even when the big 3 was here our offense was underwhelming for what it probably could have/should have been. I do think it couldn't hurt to try to get an offensive mind on the staff for a change, even if not in the HC spot.


We need an offensive coordinator.


I think they just need someone to jump in when Spo is doing a system reboot and make a decision. I see this all the time, decision paralysis. He is an exceptional planner, perhaps one of the all time greats, but when his plan suffers a deviation he ends up doing the dumbest stuff. A great leader recognizes their weaknesses. I don’t mind people calling me out on stuff and I make a fraction of Spo’s salary. He should pay me for all this advice. Hit me up.
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