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Post#441 » by Walton1one » Mon May 5, 2025 8:25 pm

DETROIT
Draft picks in June: No. 37 (via Toronto)

Free agents: Malik Beasley, Tim Hardaway Jr., Dennis Schroder, Paul Reed and Daniss Jenkins (R)


The availability of Cade Cunningham and the right roster construction around him has resulted in the former No. 1 pick becoming a first time All-Star and likely candidate for one of the All-NBA teams. After signing a rookie extension last July, Cunningham is under contract for the next five seasons.


Led by GM Trajan Langdon, Detroit made it a priority to complement its young players with veterans who can shoot in Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway Jr., Malik Beasley and Dennis Schroder. The Pistons improved from last in 3-point shooting to a respectable 17th this season.


I know some fans point to DET as the type of success that POR could have next year & trading POR pick for veterans to fit around Deni\Camara but as much as I like Avdija, he is not a Cade Cunningham. If POR had a star player then this might be the avenue to look at, but they don't, at least not yet.

I do agree with adding shooting however, just not coming from Simons, whose size\defense and Iso ball are more detrimental than his shooting provides IMO


While Cunningham, Jaden Ivey, Jalen Duren and Ausar Thompson are all under contract next season, the Pistons are faced with a decision to retain their veterans. Schroder, Beasley and Hardaway Jr. are all free agents. The positive is that even with Year 1 of the Cunningham max extension set to begin, Detroit is well positioned financially to retain the three free agents or aggressively explore free agency and trades.


The Pistons could elect to act as an over the cap team if they bring back Hardaway and Schroder. In that scenario, Detroit would have the $14.1 million non-tax midlevel exception and $5.1 million biannual exception available.


The biggest hurdle: The Pistons' front office has to carefully weigh signing the team's free agents while also prioritizing future roster optionality and financial flexibility. Beasley finished second in Sixth Man of the Year voting, played all 82 games and ranked third in NBA history in 3-pointers made off the bench. Since he has non-Bird rights, the maximum starting salary Detroit can sign Beasley to is $7.2 million. The Pistons could, however, use cap space or their non-tax midlevel exception to sign him to a greater first-year salary.


Ivey and Duren were both selected in the 2022 lottery. Now the two players are eligible up until Oct. 21 to extend their contract. While neither player will see a max contract in the early stages of free agency, both are worthy of new deals.


Two more players to monitor if (and what for) they sign new deals for.

TEAM NEEDS:
It depends on what happens in free agency with Schroder, Hardaway and Beasley. Of the three, Schroder is expendable with Ivey returning from his season-ending injury. However, if Hardaway and Beasley depart, the Pistons will need shooting to surround Cunningham. There is also the development of last year's lottery pick Ron Holland II, who shot 23.8% from 3.


DRAFT ASSETS:
For the first time since the 2020 offseason, Detroit has control of its first-round picks for the next seven years. Starting the night of the draft, the Pistons are allowed to trade up to four firsts and allowed to swap firsts in every season. They have 15 second-rounders available.


LA LAKERS
Draft picks in June: No. 55

Free agents: LeBron James (P), Jaxson Hayes, Dorian Finney-Smith (P), Alex Len, Markieff Morris, Jordan Goodwin (T) and Christian Koloko (R)


But as their lack of depth, size and late-game execution in the first round confirmed, the regular season is not the playoffs. President of basketball operations Rob Pelinka acknowledged when he traded for Doncic in February that the roster is far from a finished product. "We're going to build a roster that fits JJ Redick's basketball philosophy," Pelinka told reporters in February.


The Lakers enter one of the more pivotal offseasons in franchise history. The future of LeBron James is a focus for a second straight offseason. James has a $52.6 million player option and again can enter free agency. Doncic is not a free agent but is eligible to sign up to a four-year, $229 million extension on Aug. 2.


While re-signing the trio is the team's top priority, how Pelinka improves the rest of the roster is worth monitoring. If the trade deadline was any indication, expect the Lakers to get aggressive.


While the Lakers do not have cap space to sign free agent Myles Turner, for example, Los Angeles does have a 2031 first-round pick, five years of pick swaps, former first-round pick Dalton Knecht and over $70 million in expiring contracts (Reaves, Dorian Finney-Smith, Rui Hachimura, Maxi Kleber and Gabe Vincent) to use in a trade.


If James opts in or signs a new contract with a comparable starting salary, the Lakers will be $1.3 million over the luxury tax. They are $6.7 million below the first apron and will only have access to their $5.7 million non-tax midlevel exception. Because the Lakers are well below the second apron, they have flexibility to aggregate contracts in a trade.


Reaves' $13.9 million salary next season is below the non-tax midlevel exception...But the bargain contract also could play a role in Reaves deciding to become an unrestricted free agent in the 2026 offseason. Because of his team-friendly salary, the maximum extension the Lakers can offer is four years, $89.2 million. The first-year salary of $19.9 million is 140% of the average player salary, the maximum allowed under the CBA.


TEAM NEEDS:
A lob-threat starting center, frontcourt size and reliable rotation players. The Lakers ranked last in the playoffs in points in the paint and third worst in paint points allowed. The Timberwolves' bench outscored them by more than 16 points per game in the series.


DRAFT ASSETS:
L.A. owes Utah a 2027 top-four protected first-round pick and Dallas an unprotected first in 2029. The Lakers are allowed to trade one first-round pick in either 2031 or 2032. Los Angeles does have the right to swap firsts in five seasons (2026, 2028, 2030, 2031 and 2032) and have one second-round pick available to trade.
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#442 » by Walton1one » Mon May 5, 2025 8:41 pm

ORLANDO
Draft picks in June: No. 16 (own), No. 25 (via Denver), No. 46 (own), No. 57 (via Boston)

Free agents: Gary Harris (T), Caleb Houstan (T), Cory Joseph (T), Moritz Wagner (T), Mac McClung (R), Trevelin Queen (R)


"We've kind of doubled down on continuity," Magic president of basketball operations Jeff Weltman told reporters in February. "We believe in the way that we're built."


The Magic have all 15 players under contract for next season, but for the first time since 2010-11 they are projected to be over the luxury tax and right at the second apron. The positive is that Orlando will add two inexpensive first-round rookie contracts and have flexibility with $24 million in non-guaranteed salary.


Keeping this roster intact will be expensive. With the first years of Franz Wagner's and Suggs' extensions set to begin, the Magic project to be over the luxury tax by $19 million, over the first apron by $11 million and just $1 million short of the second apron. (Those projections include Orlando's two first-round rookie contracts.)


There are multiple ways for Orlando to dip below the tax. The Magic have $24 million in team options and have until June 29 to exercise the options of Moritz Wagner ($11 million), Harris ($7.5 million), Caleb Houstan ($3.5 million) and Cory Joseph ($2.1 million). Despite the financial crunch, Orlando is allowed to use its second-round pick exception and still exceed the apron.


Banchero...the former No. 1 pick is entering the final year of his rookie contract and is expected to sign a five-year, $247 million extension. Paired with Suggs' and Franz Wagner's extensions, a new deal for Banchero has Orlando committing over $600 million to three players.

The finances next season will require Orlando to create a pecking order on what player has the most value to the roster and who is expendable. For example, Moritz Wagner was their fourth-leading scorer and looked to be in the running as a NBA Sixth Man of the Year candidate before suffering a knee injury in December. Is exercising his $11 million team option and then exploring trade suitors for Jonathan Isaac or Goga Bitadze a more logical option? Isaac is owed $15 million next season and Bitadze $8.3 million.


Houstan has been more of an afterthought for most of his three seasons in Orlando. Selected in the second round in 2022, Houstan averaged 14 minutes per game his first two seasons. But after the All-Star break, Houstan saw his minutes increase to nearly 17 per game. He finished the second half of the season shooting a career-high 54.1% from the field and 50.7% on 3-pointers.


TEAM NEEDS:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, shooting. The Magic became the first team since the 2016-17 Oklahoma City Thunder to rank last in 3-point percentage and reach the postseason.


DRAFT ASSETS:
The Magic have all their first-round picks in future seasons and in 2026 have the more favorable first-round swap of their own and less favorable between Phoenix and Washington (if it falls between 1-8). Orlando has 13 second-rounders available.



MILWAUKEE
Draft picks in June: No. 47 (via Detroit)

Free agents: Brook Lopez, Bobby Portis (P), Pat Connaughton (P), Kevin Porter Jr. (P), Taurean Prince, Gary Trent Jr., Jericho Sims, Ryan Rollins (R), Stanley Umude (R)


We can laud Milwaukee for reaching the postseason for a ninth straight year -- the second longest active streak in the league -- but the current iteration of the roster is not close to competing for a title.


And while Antetokounmpo remains under contract through 2027-28 (he can become a free agent in the 2027 offseason if he declines his $62.8 million player option), there are questions with the rest of the roster. Lillard will turn 35 in July and is owed $113 million in the next two seasons after recovering from the torn Achilles. Brook Lopez, Bobby Portis, Taurean Prince, Kevin Porter Jr. and Gary Trent Jr. all could become free agents this summer. (Portis and Porter have a player option.)


Will be interesting to see what MIl does this offseason, they are a complete mess and if they keep Giannis, then they have to make a complete overhaul to their roster around him especially since Dame will not be there next year...I would not envy their position.

One positive is Milwaukee is no longer in financial purgatory. The Kyle Kuzma-Khris Middleton swap has given the Bucks financial freedom to add in free agency or via trade while not being pressed against the second apron.


The Bucks are $23 million below the luxury tax and $41 million beneath the second apron -- without Lopez. If Milwaukee re-signs the 37-year-old big man, uses its $14.1 million non-tax midlevel exception and then fills out the roster, the Bucks would become a luxury tax team for a sixth straight season. Since 2019-20, Milwaukee has spent $220 million in tax penalties. Three players (Pat Connaughton, Portis and Porter) have options in their contract. Connaughton has until June 24 to opt in to his $9.4 million contract. Portis and Porter have until June 29 to opt in.


Connaughton probably opts in (which I imagine they would not want) and Portis ($13) & Porter Jr ($2.5) probably both opt out, which I imagine they would not want either, worst of both worlds.

The trades in the past eight years have cost Milwaukee seven first-round picks, three years of pick swaps and 18 second-rounders. (The only players remaining from the 2021 championship team are Antetokounmpo and Lopez.) But those trades have played a role in why the Bucks trail only Boston as the winningest regular season team since 2016-17.


The offseason will present Milwaukee's next opportunity to revamp its roster. The obstacle comes with an inability to trade multiple firsts (currently, the Bucks can move either their 2031 or 2032 pick) with a roster that is top-heavy in salary.

The future of Lopez, Trent and perhaps Portis will also need to be addressed.


One under-the-radar name to keep an eye on is AJ Green. The guard shot a career-high 42.7% from 3 during the regular season and is eligible to sign up to a four-year, $89 million extension. Green is an unrestricted free agent in 2026 if there is no extension.


TEAM NEEDS:
A replacement for Lopez (and possibly Portis) if not signed, along with depth and shooters. The Bucks were successful toward the end of the season when Milwaukee surrounded Antetokounmpo with the shooting of Trent, Porter and Green. The Bucks had a plus-55.2 net rating with the four players on the court.


DRAFT ASSETS:
The Bucks have a combined two draft picks they can trade in future seasons -- either a 2031 or 2032 first. Milwaukee can also swap firsts in either season. The Bucks have a 2032 second-rounder available to trade. Because Milwaukee went under the second apron at the trade deadline, they are allowed to buy a draft pick in June. However, because they have only $110,000 available, any trade the Bucks make would have to occur July 6 or later.
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Post#443 » by Walton1one » Mon May 5, 2025 9:41 pm

Left off Miami

MIAMI
Draft picks in June: No. 20 (via Golden State)

Free agents: Duncan Robinson (ETO), Alec Burks, Davion Mitchell (R), Dru Smith (R), Isaiah Stevens (R), Josh Christopher (R) and Keshad Johnson (T)


Miami went 12-21 after the Butler trade, ranking in the bottom 10 in offensive efficiency in that span. They were 14-26 in clutch games (3-12 after the trade) and lost a league-high nine games when leading by at least 15 points.


More importantly, the Heat have renewed financial flexibility: three tradeable firsts and $60 million in expiring contracts (Robinson, Kyle Anderson, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Terry Rozier).


The Butler trade put Miami below the dreaded second apron. Including the partially guaranteed contracts of Rozier, Robinson and one first-round pick in June's draft (via Golden State), the Heat are $11 million below the first apron and $23 million below the second. Robinson's $19 million contract is guaranteed on July 8, but the team can gain an additional $10 million in flexibility if he is waived.


The Heat are enough under the second apron to keep both players and still re-sign restricted free agent Davion Mitchell, who recorded 41 steals in his 30 games with the Heat this season. Per GeniusIQ, he held opposing ball handlers to 0.828 points per direct isolation. That ranked 23rd among all players.


Starting Oct. 1, Herro is eligible to tack on a three-year, $149.7 million extension to the two years ($31 million and $33 million) he already has left on his contract. If no agreement is reached before Oct. 20, Herro would then be eligible to sign a four-year, $206.9 million extension next offseason. He is supermax eligible (five years, $380 million) if he is named All-NBA in 2025-26.


TEAM NEEDS:
An identity on offense. The Heat ranked 28th in second-chance points, 23rd in points in the paint and 24th in fast-break points. Ware must also take another step in his development from the perimeter. He attempted 66% of his shots this season within 10 feet and shot only 24.3% from 3 after the All-Star break.


DRAFT ASSETS:
The Heat sent Oklahoma City their first-round pick in June and will send Charlotte a top-14 protected first in 2027. (The pick is unprotected in 2028 if not conveyed.) Miami has its own first in 2026, 2029, 2030, 2031 and 2032. Because teams are not allowed to trade firsts in back-to-back seasons, the Heat can send 2030, 2032 and the Warriors' pick in June. They have two future seconds available.
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#444 » by dckingsfan » Mon May 5, 2025 10:43 pm

VanVleet had a down season for sure, I wouldn't resign him - that gets them down to 146M right there.

They are just going to have to run with Sheppard and Holiday - hope that Fears falls to them. Or maybe pickup Paul or Schröder.

Green has improved year over year in the regular season - yeah, he disappeared in the playoffs. Smh - his first playoff series.

Building around Green, Thompson, Eason, Smith and Sengun isn't the worst thing :D
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Post#445 » by Walton1one » Mon May 5, 2025 11:23 pm

Early indications are they are going to pick up the option on Van Fleet, and if they don't then it would be to resign him to a multi-year deal, maybe at slightly less money?

I can't see any way they go into next year with Sheppard and Holiday @ PG.
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Post#446 » by oldfishermen » Mon May 5, 2025 11:44 pm

Wish we had cap space to add salary in a trade. Celtics need to dump costly talent for cheaper players, and or picks. Not sure how much salary they need to dump, but $25-30 million has been mentioned.

If the Celtics don't make a big move this off season. They will be desperate at the trade deadline.

The Pistons are going to get a lot of trade calls about their cap space.
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Post#447 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 6, 2025 12:51 am

FVV had a poor shooting season but he is the heart and soul of that team. He and Steven Adams are very important in HOU IMO.

Remove FVV and your leaning on Dillon Brooks as your vet leader and thats a rough sell.

Also, Green is just a JR Smith clone. They should use picks and Green to improve the guard spot. Probably sell one of Jabari or Eason as well before both are due a big payday.
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Post#448 » by Sinobas » Tue May 6, 2025 2:25 am

I wonder how in love the Magic are with Franz Wagner, given that he's a max player and they are facing cap issues.

He's a a plus defender, and he can score (though his efficiency is a bit below average). His career 3pt% is worse than Scoot Henderson's. Many pundits feel his contract is an over-pay.

Could he be had for Simons,RW3, Sharpe, our #10?

Deni moves to SG.

Scoot/Deni/Franz/Camara/Clingan
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Post#449 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 6, 2025 2:39 am

Sinobas wrote:I wonder how in love the Magic are with Franz Wagner, given that he's a max player and they are facing cap issues.

He's a a plus defender, and he can score (though his efficiency is a bit below average). His career 3pt% is worse than Scoot Henderson's. Many pundits feel his contract is an over-pay.

Could he be had for Simons,RW3, Sharpe, our #10?

Deni moves to SG.

Scoot/Deni/Franz/Camara/Clingan


I think they 100% see Paolo and Franz as the main cornerstones. I actually think Franz is better than Paolo at this moment.

I think they likely value him closer to 2 of Scoot / Sharpe / Clingan + 10. And I dont really blame them.

I probably would do that honestly. I dont see any reason for ORL to break up the core just because they didnt make as much of a jump as expected - they just need the easiest archetype to find today - scoring guard. They have the assets to do that w/o moving a main guy.

Not a chance we get him but this lineup would be sick - Simons / Camara / Franz / Deni / Clingan. One of the few lineups I can think of where I would stick with Simons on this team.
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Post#450 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue May 6, 2025 3:27 am

These teams losing in the first round is a good thing for the Blazers. Perhaps the Blazers can capitalize on their vets. The Lakers gotta win. The Rockets need experience. The Magic need offense. Let's go!!!

Oh, and I think the Clippers should blow it up.
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Post#451 » by DusterBuster » Tue May 6, 2025 3:49 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:These teams losing in the first round is a good thing for the Blazers. Perhaps the Blazers can capitalize on their vets. The Lakers gotta win. The Rockets need experience. The Magic need offense. Let's go!!!

Oh, and I think the Clippers should blow it up.


I could see DA to the Lakers. Rui, Finny-Smith, Kencht and a first for DA?
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Post#452 » by PDXKnight » Tue May 6, 2025 5:39 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:These teams losing in the first round is a good thing for the Blazers. Perhaps the Blazers can capitalize on their vets. The Lakers gotta win. The Rockets need experience. The Magic need offense. Let's go!!!

Oh, and I think the Clippers should blow it up.


I could see DA to the Lakers. Rui, Finny-Smith, Kencht and a first for DA?


I'd do it even if they weren't willing to cough up a 1st but might as well try
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Post#453 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue May 6, 2025 5:44 am

You're not getting any 1st dor Ayton. Expirings & Knecht for Ayton's expiring contract.
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Post#454 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 6, 2025 3:05 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:These teams losing in the first round is a good thing for the Blazers. Perhaps the Blazers can capitalize on their vets. The Lakers gotta win. The Rockets need experience. The Magic need offense. Let's go!!!

Oh, and I think the Clippers should blow it up.


I could see DA to the Lakers. Rui, Finny-Smith, Kencht and a first for DA?


Thats 2 of the Lakers top-5 guys, their only real young prospect and their only available 1st.

I think DA has far, far less value than that. Fillers (Maxi, Vincent, Vandy, Milton, etc) and Dalton for DA is much closer.
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Post#455 » by DusterBuster » Tue May 6, 2025 3:55 pm

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:These teams losing in the first round is a good thing for the Blazers. Perhaps the Blazers can capitalize on their vets. The Lakers gotta win. The Rockets need experience. The Magic need offense. Let's go!!!

Oh, and I think the Clippers should blow it up.


I could see DA to the Lakers. Rui, Finny-Smith, Kencht and a first for DA?


Thats 2 of the Lakers top-5 guys, their only real young prospect and their only available 1st.

I think DA has far, far less value than that. Fillers (Maxi, Vincent, Vandy, Milton, etc) and Dalton for DA is much closer.


Rui and Finny-Smith being 2 of the Lakers top 5 guys is a problem.

I know people love to **** on DA for his focus, but he's a substantially better player than Rui and Finny combined, he also fits the Luka timeline.

Also, I'm not sure there's any other deal that can be constructed with the fillers you mentioned to make a deal work to get DA to the Lakers.
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Post#456 » by Sinobas » Tue May 6, 2025 4:18 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:You're not getting any 1st dor Ayton. Expirings & Knecht for Ayton's expiring contract.


I'd take that deal, because Knect would be like getting a lotto pick. He was a projected lotto pick last year and out-performed where he was taken at 17.
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Post#457 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue May 6, 2025 4:32 pm

Id be happy with Kleber, Vincent, Knecht and whatever other filler is needed. I'd hope not to take on Vanderbilts contract, but there may be no other choice unless they're willing to part with Finney-Smith.
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Post#458 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 6, 2025 4:46 pm

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I could see DA to the Lakers. Rui, Finny-Smith, Kencht and a first for DA?


Thats 2 of the Lakers top-5 guys, their only real young prospect and their only available 1st.

I think DA has far, far less value than that. Fillers (Maxi, Vincent, Vandy, Milton, etc) and Dalton for DA is much closer.


Rui and Finny-Smith being 2 of the Lakers top 5 guys is a problem.

I know people love to **** on DA for his focus, but he's a substantially better player than Rui and Finny combined, he also fits the Luka timeline.

Also, I'm not sure there's any other deal that can be constructed with the fillers you mentioned to make a deal work to get DA to the Lakers.


Jarrett Vanderbilt 11.5M
Gabe Vincent 11.5M
Maxi Kleber 11M
Dalton Knetch 4M
TOTAL - 38M

DeAndre Ayton 35.5M
Kris Murray 3.1M
TOTAL - 38.6M

That would work.

I just cant see LAL moving both Rui and DFS in a deal for Ayton. The above would be fine to me. Mostly expirings, Vandy goes longer but is a useful utility rotation F (And his deal will be peanuts with the cap increase).

Maybe taking on the extra years of Vandy (And the fact moving off him and Dalton adds 15M+ in cap space for 2026 - when they will go big game hunting for long-term fits next to Luka ) might be worth a future protected swap?
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Post#459 » by oldfishermen » Tue May 6, 2025 5:09 pm

I probably like DA's game more than most. It is his contract that bothers me. I would keep him, at the right price.

Before helping the la swampers, I would take a shot at extending DA first. If he would take a reasonable pay cut, keep him. If not, get what you can in a trade.

I doubt any team is going to overpay him. So it comes down to if DA wants to play here or not.
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Post#460 » by DusterBuster » Tue May 6, 2025 5:26 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
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Thats 2 of the Lakers top-5 guys, their only real young prospect and their only available 1st.

I think DA has far, far less value than that. Fillers (Maxi, Vincent, Vandy, Milton, etc) and Dalton for DA is much closer.


Rui and Finny-Smith being 2 of the Lakers top 5 guys is a problem.

I know people love to **** on DA for his focus, but he's a substantially better player than Rui and Finny combined, he also fits the Luka timeline.

Also, I'm not sure there's any other deal that can be constructed with the fillers you mentioned to make a deal work to get DA to the Lakers.


Jarrett Vanderbilt 11.5M
Gabe Vincent 11.5M
Maxi Kleber 11M
Dalton Knetch 4M
TOTAL - 38M

DeAndre Ayton 35.5M
Kris Murray 3.1M
TOTAL - 38.6M

That would work.

I just cant see LAL moving both Rui and DFS in a deal for Ayton. The above would be fine to me. Mostly expirings, Vandy goes longer but is a useful utility rotation F (And his deal will be peanuts with the cap increase).

Maybe taking on the extra years of Vandy (And the fact moving off him and Dalton adds 15M+ in cap space for 2026 - when they will go big game hunting for long-term fits next to Luka ) might be worth a future protected swap?


I'd be fine with this too. Not too particularly concerned with the filler players coming in return as long as Knetch is coming back. I think he would fit a really good role that everyone had hoped Murray would be.
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