NBA Playoffs 2025 (Poll created for Finals prediction)

[Revived]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

You said it brother. It’s sooooo much better now a days missing the playoffs, unlikable players, no draft picks, horrible owner, & the list goes on. You’re wise beyond your years Saber please please please never change! lol

How about we see what our new GM does with KD/Beal?

Surely the new GM that has years of experience working for a top notch organization and isn’t just a Michigan State alumni that’s one of Ishbia’s stooges will make a great trade!

Great trades like getting ripped of Danny Ainge by trading away an unprotected 2031 for 3 first rd picks that aren’t worth jack *****. Or trades like having to attach a 1st rd pick to give away a player like Nurkic who’s on an expiring contract next season.

[SunsRback4Good]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

You said it brother. It’s sooooo much better now a days missing the playoffs, unlikable players, no draft picks, horrible owner, & the list goes on. You’re wise beyond your years Saber please please please never change! lol

How about we see what our new GM does with KD/Beal?

Sure, let’s wait and see. We have all the time in the world now.

[bwgood77]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

Don't forget Crowder who netted 5 2nd rounders.

[bwgood77]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

73 win team.

[Saberestar]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

It's a team sport. KD has played great for the Suns but as a team we didn't meet expectations for several reasons. Both things can be true, it's not that difficult to understand.

Mikal is a nice player but he is the 4th best player on the Knicks and 4th with the Suns when we got to the Finals too. His role is very different from KD's role who always has been the top player and the focal point of every team's defense.

You don't like KD? Good. Every fan has his favorites. I prefer KD over Mikal, Cam Johnson and those picks and I have enjoyed every game watching KD on a Suns jersey. We didn't have the results that we wanted but I applaud the idea of going for it and making a big move to win it all.

Now we have the opportunity to retool using KD to get valuable assets back for him. Hopefully a very good package. It's not the end of the Suns...relax.

[TeamTragic]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen on this board and that says something.

CP3 and Booker are the reason we had that run in 2021. Bridges disappeared against the Bucks and has done nothing since he left.

Get your facts straight before spouting off hot garbage.

[ChuckS]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

Everyone has a favorite player, and I really liked Mikal when I followed the Nets. And he was on the one finals team (that lost) with the Suns, in its 56 or so years. But KD was on four finals teams in his 17 years. With OKC he lost two, once against LeBron, Wade, and Bosch, and the other against Curry, Thompson, Green, etal. He won twice with GS, being finals MVP both times. Looking at that and the totality of their respective careers I doubt anyone in the NBA could really believe that Mikal is anywhere close to KD. I suspect it's an Arizona thing. I'm not knocking anyone. When I followed GS with KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond, my favorite players were Iguodala and Livingston. So I can be as dumb as anyone. In my defense, though, I never believed my favorites were the teams' best.

The finals MVPs should say it all about Durant's exceptionalism, but I think Draymond's opinion is also helpful when weighing the valuable opinions of anonymous posters. He said: “But the reality is, I don’t think that team wins another championship if Kevin doesn’t come … We would not have beat the Cavs coming back around without Kevin.” “Teams had figured us out, and I personally don’t think at that point Steph Curry had figured out, ‘I’m going to get a bucket whenever I want to,’” Green said. “I don’t think he was capable of that yet. I think he was still growing into that.” (My Note --Remember that Iguodala won their previous finals MVP.) “... The reality is, we got to a point where we needed to be able to give someone the ball that can just go get a bucket,” Green continued. “And Kevin was already there. I don’t think Steph was there yet. So it gets us through those two years. We get those two championships.” Also while with GS, Kevin was an NBA first team and a 2d team selection, and a defensive player of the year consideration..

With OKC he won four scoring titles, was a league MVP, with three 2d place runner ups, and a ROY. He was an all-star with every team he has played for, with (I think) 15 in all. So, in summary, I believe your analyses of KD and Saber are not supported by the facts, and I will just agree to disagree.

[Revived]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

Everyone has a favorite player, and I really liked Mikal when I followed the Nets. And he was on the one finals team (that lost) with the Suns, in its 56 or so years. But KD was on four finals teams in his 17 years. With OKC he lost two, once against LeBron, Wade, and Bosch, and the other against Curry, Thompson, Green, etal. He won twice with GS, being finals MVP both times. Looking at that and the totality of their respective careers I doubt anyone in the NBA could really believe that Mikal is anywhere close to KD. I suspect it's an Arizona thing. I'm not knocking anyone. When I followed GS with KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond, my favorite players were Iguodala and Livingston. So I can be as dumb as anyone. In my defense, though, I never believed my favorites were the teams' best.

The finals MVPs should say it all about Durant's exceptionalism, but I think Draymond's opinion is also helpful when weighing the valuable opinions of anonymous posters. He said: “But the reality is, I don’t think that team wins another championship if Kevin doesn’t come … We would not have beat the Cavs coming back around without Kevin.” “Teams had figured us out, and I personally don’t think at that point Steph Curry had figured out, ‘I’m going to get a bucket whenever I want to,’” Green said. “I don’t think he was capable of that yet. I think he was still growing into that.” (My Note --Remember that Iguodala won their previous finals MVP.) “... The reality is, we got to a point where we needed to be able to give someone the ball that can just go get a bucket,” Green continued. “And Kevin was already there. I don’t think Steph was there yet. So it gets us through those two years. We get those two championships.” Also while with GS, Kevin was an NBA first team and a 2d team selection, and a defensive player of the year consideration..

With OKC he won four scoring titles, was a league MVP, with three 2d place runner ups, and a ROY. He was an all-star with every team he has played for, with (I think) 15 in all. So, in summary, I believe your analyses of KD and Saber are not supported by the facts, and I will just agree to disagree.

Individual awards are nice but his teams never did anything till he joined a 60 win a team. That was my point. He’s a great individual talent sure but does little to elevate the team around him to have success.

Nobody is saying Mikal Bridges is a better player than KD. They’re saying that the trade to acquire KD giving up so much in addition to Mikal plus KD being the one orchestrate the Bradley Beal trade has doomed this franchise. And yes, Shams Charania the most reputable NBA insider (and also the one that KD leaked how much he hated Vogel after last season to) has disclosed that.

Role players matter. Nuggets won with Jokic as the lone star and guys like KCP, Gordon, Murray, Brown etc mattered big time in their ring. Same thing for Bucks with Giannis and guys surrounding them. Same thing for Boston with the guys surrounding Tatum & Brown. And so on.

[Revived]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen on this board and that says something.

CP3 and Booker are the reason we had that run in 2021. Bridges disappeared against the Bucks and has done nothing since he left.

Get your facts straight before spouting off hot garbage.

Hot garbage is what can be used to describe yours and Sabestar’s posts licking the boot. And Bridges is far from the only one to “disappear” against the Bucks in that series.

Btw “disappear” is an interesting way to talk about a guy that shot 55% from the field and 43% from 3 in that series. Perhaps the offense should’ve been set up so he takes more shots than he would’ve averaged more than 12pts in that series. For what it’s worth, the series he scored the most pts in during the playoffs that year was the finals. Maybe you get your facts right before licking the boot. Ishbia won’t sleep with you man, he’s a billionaire he can do better.

[Revived]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

It's a team sport. KD has played great for the Suns but as a team we didn't meet expectations for several reasons. Both things can be true, it's not that difficult to understand.

Mikal is a nice player but he is the 4th best player on the Knicks and 4th with the Suns when we got to the Finals too. His role is very different from KD's role who always has been the top player and the focal point of every team's defense.

You don't like KD? Good. Every fan has his favorites. I prefer KD over Mikal, Cam Johnson and those picks and I have enjoyed every game watching KD on a Suns jersey. We didn't have the results that we wanted but I applaud the idea of going for it and making a big move to win it all.

Now we have the opportunity to retool using KD to get valuable assets back for him. Hopefully a very good package. It's not the end of the Suns...relax.

You’ve spun this BS of hoping for a very great future in the last three years and yet what happened? So why should things be any different now?

You spun BS about how losing to Denver will make the team stronger in the next season because of the Beal trade. Then you spun a BS about Bradley Beal is gonna make the Suns great. Then when Suns got swept by Wolves you said how it’s because it was only their first season together and that Vogel was the problem. Now they miss playoffs entirety and this is your new “positive spin” on things? Are you doing a bit to just troll or do you actually believe the things you’re saying?

If it’s the latter, Sabestar, have you heard of “positive toxicity” before?”

Toxic positivity refers to the excessive and ineffective overgeneralization of a happy, optimistic state that minimizes, denies, or invalidates authentic human emotions.

Here’s a good article to refer to as well below:

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958

You’re a victim of this. I highly suggest you read it.

[TeamTragic]

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen on this board and that says something.

CP3 and Booker are the reason we had that run in 2021. Bridges disappeared against the Bucks and has done nothing since he left.

Get your facts straight before spouting off hot garbage.

Hot garbage is what can be used to describe yours and Sabestar’s posts licking the boot. And Bridges is far from the only one to “disappear” against the Bucks in that series.

Btw “disappear” is an interesting way to talk about a guy that shot 55% from the field and 43% from 3 in that series. Perhaps the offense should’ve been set up so he takes more shots than he would’ve averaged more than 12pts in that series. For what it’s worth, the series he scored the most pts in during the playoffs that year was the finals. Maybe you get your facts right before licking the boot. Ishbia won’t sleep with you man, he’s a billionaire he can do better.

You can be negative all you want but CP3 is the ONLY reason that team made the finals.

When KD and Booker were putting up insane numbers I didn't see you complaining.

[Revived]

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen on this board and that says something.

CP3 and Booker are the reason we had that run in 2021. Bridges disappeared against the Bucks and has done nothing since he left.

Get your facts straight before spouting off hot garbage.

Hot garbage is what can be used to describe yours and Sabestar’s posts licking the boot. And Bridges is far from the only one to “disappear” against the Bucks in that series.

Btw “disappear” is an interesting way to talk about a guy that shot 55% from the field and 43% from 3 in that series. Perhaps the offense should’ve been set up so he takes more shots than he would’ve averaged more than 12pts in that series. For what it’s worth, the series he scored the most pts in during the playoffs that year was the finals. Maybe you get your facts right before licking the boot. Ishbia won’t sleep with you man, he’s a billionaire he can do better.

You can be negative all you want but CP3 is the ONLY reason that team made the finals.

When KD and Booker were putting up insane numbers and I didn't see you complaining.

Were they doing any winning when they were putting up these “insane numbers”? No they weren’t so I was definitely complaining, you can go and check.

And I don’t care about what you “think”, I provided you with actual numbers. CP3 played a big role in the team going to the finals, but doesn’t mean other players were worthless. There’s a reason that in his entire nearly 20 year career, CP3 was only ever able to make it to the Finals on that Suns team and it’s because those guys (Bridges, Booker, Ayton, Johnson, Payne, Craig) all played their roles well to get the team there.

[TeamTragic]

Hot garbage is what can be used to describe yours and Sabestar’s posts licking the boot. And Bridges is far from the only one to “disappear” against the Bucks in that series.

Btw “disappear” is an interesting way to talk about a guy that shot 55% from the field and 43% from 3 in that series. Perhaps the offense should’ve been set up so he takes more shots than he would’ve averaged more than 12pts in that series. For what it’s worth, the series he scored the most pts in during the playoffs that year was the finals. Maybe you get your facts right before licking the boot. Ishbia won’t sleep with you man, he’s a billionaire he can do better.

You can be negative all you want but CP3 is the ONLY reason that team made the finals.

When KD and Booker were putting up insane numbers and I didn't see you complaining.

Were they doing any winning when they were putting up these “insane numbers”? No they weren’t so I was definitely complaining, you can go and check.

And I don’t care about what you “think”, I provided you with actual numbers. CP3 played a big role in the team going to the finals, but doesn’t mean other players were worthless. There’s a reason that in his entire nearly 20 year career, CP3 was only ever able to make it to the Finals on that Suns team and it’s because those guys (Bridges, Booker, Ayton, Johnson, Payne, Craig) all played their roles well to get the team there.

We took two games from the NBA Champs thanks to those performances and it could have easily been a third.

Not their fault the FO couldn't figure out a proper lineup and also not their fault that Monty was a stubborn clown.

The pendulum swings both ways and in all honestly this franchise has failed both Booker and KD.

[wheezy]

Haliburton with the game winner. Been one of the best playoff years I can remember.

[SunsRback4Good]

Haliburton with the game winner. Been one of the best playoff years I can remember.

He’s fabulous and very sexy! I’m a huge Haliburton fan!!!

[bwgood77]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen on this board and that says something.

CP3 and Booker are the reason we had that run in 2021. Bridges disappeared against the Bucks and has done nothing since he left.

Get your facts straight before spouting off hot garbage.

Well he just basically made the game winning plays in the 2nd round of the playoffs while Book, KD & Company are sitting at home. And he was just one of 8 pieces going out in the trade.

[bwgood77]

KD is 36 years old, a great player NOW and he is a favorite player for many people, including many Phoenix Suns fans.

Some people miss Mikal and/or other former Suns player and it's OK... but it's better and I prefer to look at the present and possibilities for the future.

“Great player now” yeah that must be why he took the Suns to…missing the playoffs and 35 wins this season.

There is no “future” with a 36 yr old. That trade giving up Mikal, Cam and 4 first round picks is one of the worst trades to ever be made. Mikal himself netted 5 first rd picks so basically Suns traded 9 first rd picks and Cam Johnson for a 35 yr old KD.

Mikal helped this team get to the Finals and come just 2 wins shy of a chip. KD helped this team get swept in the first round and for players to do this to the Suns:



KD is the most overrated superstar player in maybe all of sports history. Guy is extremely turnover prone in big moments and only time he’s ever won jack **** in his life was he did the weakest move ever in sports by joining a 63 win team like a b****h. That same team won before he joined and after he left. Meanwhile he’s accomplished absolutely nothing in his career without that team.

You keep licking that boot though man, nobody else here can do it as well as you. I know Ishbia appreciates it.

Everyone has a favorite player, and I really liked Mikal when I followed the Nets. And he was on the one finals team (that lost) with the Suns, in its 56 or so years. But KD was on four finals teams in his 17 years. With OKC he lost two, once against LeBron, Wade, and Bosch, and the other against Curry, Thompson, Green, etal. He won twice with GS, being finals MVP both times. Looking at that and the totality of their respective careers I doubt anyone in the NBA could really believe that Mikal is anywhere close to KD. I suspect it's an Arizona thing. I'm not knocking anyone. When I followed GS with KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond, my favorite players were Iguodala and Livingston. So I can be as dumb as anyone. In my defense, though, I never believed my favorites were the teams' best.

The finals MVPs should say it all about Durant's exceptionalism, but I think Draymond's opinion is also helpful when weighing the valuable opinions of anonymous posters. He said: “But the reality is, I don’t think that team wins another championship if Kevin doesn’t come … We would not have beat the Cavs coming back around without Kevin.” “Teams had figured us out, and I personally don’t think at that point Steph Curry had figured out, ‘I’m going to get a bucket whenever I want to,’” Green said. “I don’t think he was capable of that yet. I think he was still growing into that.” (My Note --Remember that Iguodala won their previous finals MVP.) “... The reality is, we got to a point where we needed to be able to give someone the ball that can just go get a bucket,” Green continued. “And Kevin was already there. I don’t think Steph was there yet. So it gets us through those two years. We get those two championships.” Also while with GS, Kevin was an NBA first team and a 2d team selection, and a defensive player of the year consideration..

With OKC he won four scoring titles, was a league MVP, with three 2d place runner ups, and a ROY. He was an all-star with every team he has played for, with (I think) 15 in all. So, in summary, I believe your analyses of KD and Saber are not supported by the facts, and I will just agree to disagree.

He only made one finals with OKC. He obviously couldn't have played the Warriors in the finals with OKC. He made 4 but his last one he got injured and they lost to Toronto. GS still easily wins finals without him. The Cavs got pretty lucky with Draymond out and had a few great plays in that one.

No one is arguing Mikal is anywhere near as good as KD. People may like him better as a player. KD is talented, I enjoyed watching him on OKC, but hated seeing him join that championship team. He just joined a team and made a team that already broke the record in season wins and had won a championship so stacked it wouldn't lose. They were already miles better than anyone in the west and the Cavs had just had a crazy series to take one from them.

Anyway, we've seen what he can do post Warriors even with multiple other stars...not much. He is a great player but not really a guy that you want to build around to consistently get far. That's been proven.

[bwgood77]

Haliburton with the game winner. Been one of the best playoff years I can remember.

Yeah I originally just came here after that game winner. These last 3 games have all been crazy. It's like they keep getting crazier and the team that looks dead in the water makes some crazy comeback.

I kind of think Cleveland may pull out of this, but things don't look good down 2-0 going on the road. They may pull a 94 Houston vs us on them. I think we upset them in game 1 and then had a crazy game 2 win in Houston, but then they beat us twice in Phx to tie it up.

But the pressure is obviously all going to be on Cleveland. If it's tight who knows?

OKC better start pulling away from Denver too. They don't want it to be close.

[Sunlight]

Imagine if two goats, Bridges and Haliburton, were on this team instead of Booker, the loser with the biggest paycheck of all time. Stupidity knows no bounds.

[SunsRback4Good]

Imagine if two goats, Bridges and Haliburton, were on this team instead of Booker, the loser with the biggest paycheck of all time. Stupidity knows no bounds.

We’d easily be a contender for the next decade. Booker is so overrated by many Suns fans it’s not even funny anymore.