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Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1941 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
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IMO JB is going nowhere
Jrue, KP, Hauser are the ones to go

Yeah, but if the player they're getting in return is Giannis, I think Brad will pull the trigger.

If Cs make the Finals then trading JB will not be an option.

Brad and ownership will take too much heat if they trade JB and the Cs are in the Finals this year.

Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.

Yeah, but nobody expected the Mavs to trade Luka for AD.

In this day and age, anything's possible.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1942 » by phincsfan » Thu May 8, 2025 3:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
IMO JB is going nowhere
Jrue, KP, Hauser are the ones to go

Yeah, but if the player they're getting in return is Giannis, I think Brad will pull the trigger.

If Cs make the Finals then trading JB will not be an option.

Brad and ownership will take too much heat if they trade JB and the Cs are in the Finals this year.

Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.


Agreed and since he already has a ring, he's probably thinking about the glitz and glamour of NY and LA, maybe South Beach. He's made the money, got the ring, earned the MVP trophy and wants to end his career as the star in a big city. Can't fault him for that.

As a former NYC resident, my advice is go enjoy the west coast life where he can afford all those taxes.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1943 » by phincsfan » Thu May 8, 2025 3:07 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Yeah, but if the player they're getting in return is Giannis, I think Brad will pull the trigger.

If Cs make the Finals then trading JB will not be an option.

Brad and ownership will take too much heat if they trade JB and the Cs are in the Finals this year.

Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.

Yeah, but nobody expected the Mavs to trade Luka for AD.

In this day and age, anything's possible.


Mavs are a unique situation, and I think more will come out from that trade over the next year +.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1944 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:10 pm

phincsfan wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.

Yeah, but nobody expected the Mavs to trade Luka for AD.

In this day and age, anything's possible.


Mavs are a unique situation, and I think more will come out from that trade over the next year +.

It's not just JB for Giannis.

Brad can get other assets for Jrue and KP.

There will be teams out there who think they will be a Jrue Holiday away from being a contender.

Or a team really desperate for a big man.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1945 » by 31to6 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:38 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
IMO JB is going nowhere
Jrue, KP, Hauser are the ones to go

Yeah, but if the player they're getting in return is Giannis, I think Brad will pull the trigger.

If Cs make the Finals then trading JB will not be an option.

Brad and ownership will take too much heat if they trade JB and the Cs are in the Finals this year.

Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.


serious question: is that true if it's Tatum for Giannis?
(or can we not trade JT for another season due to extension timing?)
(also I realize salaries probably don't match up so this can't be done before dumping KP or other salary)
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Post#1946 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:44 pm

It's a fact that JT is a big Kobe fan and also a Laker fan when he was a kid.

If the Cs trade JT, I won't be surprised if JT will find a way to end up with Lakers and make the Celtics regret that they traded him.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1947 » by Hal14 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:49 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Yeah, but if the player they're getting in return is Giannis, I think Brad will pull the trigger.

If Cs make the Finals then trading JB will not be an option.

Brad and ownership will take too much heat if they trade JB and the Cs are in the Finals this year.

Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.

Yeah, but nobody expected the Mavs to trade Luka for AD.

In this day and age, anything's possible.

That was a bit different. Mavs traded Luka because they didn't want to give him a supermax. And because they think defense wins championships and that Luka doesn't play defense.

We already gave JB a supermax. And JB is a good defender.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1948 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 8, 2025 3:54 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are not getting Giannis, people need to stop with this nonsense. There are about 4-5 teams in the NBA that can trump the Celtics offer easily.

Yeah, but nobody expected the Mavs to trade Luka for AD.

In this day and age, anything's possible.

That was a bit different. Mavs traded Luka because they didn't want to give him a supermax. And because they think defense wins championships and that Luka doesn't play defense.

We already gave JB a supermax. And JB is a good defender.

I have no problem keeping JB.

But I think all options should be considered.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1949 » by Higgs Boston » Thu May 8, 2025 3:58 pm

You can trade holiday and hauser for a starter wing in a realistic situation, put white and tatum as PGs, be a better and bigger defense, and give more rest to tatum on defense and rebounding, but KP is very hard to replace, likely there isn't a starter C available, let alone a shooting big, the closest thing maybe is poeltl or a shooting big like reid that is just a bench player because he is terrible on defense.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1950 » by phincsfan » Thu May 8, 2025 3:59 pm

JT will get a better haul than JB IMO.

That's why I would rather trade JT than JB.
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Post#1951 » by Hal14 » Thu May 8, 2025 4:18 pm

phincsfan wrote:JT will get a better haul than JB IMO.

That's why I would rather trade JT than JB.

Seems to drastic to talk about trading either of them at this point.

The season is not over yet. 4 teams have come back from losing the first 2 games at home to win the series. We can do it too.

Plus there's been teams who have come back from down 3 games to 1. And other teams who have come back from down 0-2 when the 2 losses were on the road (C's are a very good road team).

Moving 1 of the Jays seems too drastic when our season is still going. Let's see what happens..we could still end up winning the title.

We barely lost both of these 2 games and had historically bad shooting..got open looks, just missed tons of open/wide open 3's.

If we do lose this series, maybe we do move 1 of the Jays. But that's a big if.

I think the more likely scenario (even if we lose this series) is trimming payroll a bit, while trying to build a good supporting cast around the Jays at the same time..
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1952 » by Celts17Pride » Thu May 8, 2025 4:30 pm

Fierce1 wrote:It's a fact that JT is a big Kobe fan and also a Laker fan when he was a kid.

If the Cs trade JT, I won't be surprised if JT will find a way to end up with Lakers and make the Celtics regret that they traded him.

Neither JT or JB are going in my opinion. Just doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1953 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 8, 2025 4:52 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:You can trade holiday and hauser for a starter wing in a realistic situation, put white and tatum as PGs, be a better and bigger defense, and give more rest to tatum on defense and rebounding, but KP is very hard to replace, likely there isn't a starter C available, let alone a shooting big, the closest thing maybe is poeltl or a shooting big like reid that is just a bench player because he is terrible on defense.



Walker Kessler


Screw the 5 out offense.


Trade Kristaps and add a power forward in his place.
I would trade Brown because brown is a selfish basketball player
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1954 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 8, 2025 5:07 pm

Brown and Kristaps

for

Bam, Kyle Anderson, Andrew Wiggins

Jrue/Pritch/??
White/Baylor/
Wiggins/Hauser/Walsh
Tatum/Horford/Andersen
Bam/Kornet/Queta
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Post#1955 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu May 8, 2025 6:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's a fact that JT is a big Kobe fan and also a Laker fan when he was a kid.

If the Cs trade JT, I won't be surprised if JT will find a way to end up with Lakers and make the Celtics regret that they traded him.

Neither JT or JB are going in my opinion. Just doesn't make any sense.


Yep, they'll likely it back next year. If they make a deal, it's likely dumping Hauser and/or KP, so not much loss since KP can't stay healthy in the playoffs.

If they keep Porzingis, I can't see Porzingis returning for 2026-2027. They may also trade JT or JB in the summer of 2026 depending on next year.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1956 » by ThePigeon » Thu May 8, 2025 6:25 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:You can trade holiday and hauser for a starter wing in a realistic situation, put white and tatum as PGs, be a better and bigger defense, and give more rest to tatum on defense and rebounding, but KP is very hard to replace, likely there isn't a starter C available, let alone a shooting big, the closest thing maybe is poeltl or a shooting big like reid that is just a bench player because he is terrible on defense.


I want a back to the basket big
When you are stuck on offense just dump the ball inside and let him work
KP isn't it. Too weak
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1957 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 8, 2025 10:15 pm

ThePigeon wrote:
Higgs Boston wrote:You can trade holiday and hauser for a starter wing in a realistic situation, put white and tatum as PGs, be a better and bigger defense, and give more rest to tatum on defense and rebounding, but KP is very hard to replace, likely there isn't a starter C available, let alone a shooting big, the closest thing maybe is poeltl or a shooting big like reid that is just a bench player because he is terrible on defense.


I want a back to the basket big
When you are stuck on offense just dump the ball inside and let him work
KP isn't it. Too weak



I think the league is slowly moving away from the 3pt shooting bigman and starting to get physical again.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1958 » by robbie84 » Thu May 8, 2025 10:31 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
robbie84 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
Why would MIL do this?
If we fail to win it all with this group + JT, why take them at all?


Because Giannis is a free agent.

No, he isn't.


you are right. He waived his player option next year when he signed the 3 year extension?

So he's technically got 2 years on his deal?
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1959 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Fri May 9, 2025 12:39 am

One of the International Sports Books has the Celtics as the favorite to sign Ben Simmons in the Offseason. That actually makes a lot of sense, no matter how many of their Stars they trade, and while they are at it, they should go after Marvin Bagley, whom they've had interest in the past. Those two would be interesting reclamation projects which could pay off decently for the Celtics. I thought both Bagley And Simmons played well in the second half of the Season and could be good additions at a very relative cheap cost.
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Re: Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 

Post#1960 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 9, 2025 1:21 pm

I still say make a push for Bam and filler centered around Brown and Kristaps

Kristaps and Baylor to the Lakers
Rui Hachimura, Brown to Miami
Bam, Wiggins, Knect and Klebr to Boston


Brown and Kristaps to Milwaukee for Giannis and Portis and filler?

Brown and Kristaps to Atlanta for Okongwu, Jalen Johnson, Mann and Niang?

Brown and Kristaps to Miami for Bam, Wiggins, filler and picks?

Brown for salary and the #1 pick to the team who gets it? (Washington, Charlottote, Nets)

Brown and Kristaps to Utah if they win the number 1 pick for Kessler, salary and #1?

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