Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[RichCollab]

Not that he’d be available for anything I’d likely want to give up, but Podziemski would be a great guard for this team. Does everything we need without compromising on what makes us good.

We already have plenty of players who disappear during the playoffs.

[Knightro]

So he re-signs Moe and lets go of Cory and Gary….

To stay under the 1st apron he won’t be making major trades unless more expensive assets are attached outgoing.

Magic have a number of picks (4) and I don’t believe they make, and sign, ALL of them.

It’s just a much more difficult offseason to improve the roster because of 4 years of lack of improving the roster on the fringes in smaller deals.

But that’s how it’s going to be anyway?

The Magic are over the cap, so any trade would have to be relatively close financially.

[cedric76]

And we know Mo is not going anywhere. Weltman has painted himself into a tough corner to improve this team.

I agree that Moritz will be back, but I'm almost positive his option will be declined and he'll be resigned later in the process once they've made whatever trades they're going to make.

I would be shocked if he sticks around for his existing 1 year, $11M given his injury status.

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

35 M / 4 yr contract (good offer coming from injury)

[cedric76]

Goga + SRP for Royce O'Neil (I LL miss goga but trade works for both team)

Cole+Jett +Den FRP for sexton

Draft Clifford+ Raynaud

Cut Harris

Opt out on Moe and offer him a 40M/4yr contract
Re-sign cojo on a cheap vet contract
Option on Houstan
Min contract to TQ

Sexton,ab,cojo
Suggs, KCP, Clifford, TQ
Franz, TDS, Clifford , Houstan
PB,JI, O'Neil , Houstan
Wcj, Moe, Raynaud

Under the 1st apron team
Fully loaded with 3pt and scoring

[RookieStar]

I agree that Moritz will be back, but I'm almost positive his option will be declined and he'll be resigned later in the process once they've made whatever trades they're going to make.

I would be shocked if he sticks around for his existing 1 year, $11M given his injury status.

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

35 M / 4 yr contract (good offer coming from injury)

With the lqst being a team option as usual... that sounds good for us.

[pepe1991]

And we know Mo is not going anywhere. Weltman has painted himself into a tough corner to improve this team.

I agree that Moritz will be back, but I'm almost positive his option will be declined and he'll be resigned later in the process once they've made whatever trades they're going to make.

I would be shocked if he sticks around for his existing 1 year, $11M given his injury status.

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

Why would Moe agree on that?

Like he can't get some 3 years, $40M from anywhere else? Nets will be first in line to take him. Pistons need scoring big as well.

[cedric76]

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

35 M / 4 yr contract (good offer coming from injury)

With the lqst being a team option as usual... that sounds good for us.

Sounds good, unfortunately if he wants more we d have to let him go and get someone like Royce O'Neil (perfect cheap long term contract)

[basketballRob]

No other team would offer Moe over $5m this year.

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[cedric76]

No other team would offer Moe over $5m this year.

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Come on, few teams would offer him the mle

[basketballRob]

No other team would offer Moe over $5m this year.

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Come on, few teams would offer him the mle

No way. I think only 4 or 5 teams have the full mle. Moe won't come back until January, and then he'll be on minute restrictions. If I were the Magic, I'd offer him a 2-yr $11m deal.

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[RookieStar]

I agree that Moritz will be back, but I'm almost positive his option will be declined and he'll be resigned later in the process once they've made whatever trades they're going to make.

I would be shocked if he sticks around for his existing 1 year, $11M given his injury status.

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

Why would Moe agree on that?

Like he can't get some 3 years, $40M from anywhere else? Nets will be first in line to take him. Pistons need scoring big as well.

So the question comes down to is... how much is tje 2nd highest bench scoring C with no defense ( bit with a lot of heart) and is recovering from an ACL ( so missed half the reg season) worth?

[basketballRob]

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

Why would Moe agree on that?

Like he can't get some 3 years, $40M from anywhere else? Nets will be first in line to take him. Pistons need scoring big as well.

So the question comes down to is... how much is tje 2nd highest bench scoring C with no defense ( bit with a lot of heart) and is recovering from an ACL ( so missed half the reg season) worth?

His defensive rating wasn't bad. I'm not sure what it'll look like after the ACL. We definitely need some more offense off the bench next season.

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[Skybox]

Why would Moe agree on that?

Like he can't get some 3 years, $40M from anywhere else? Nets will be first in line to take him. Pistons need scoring big as well.

So the question comes down to is... how much is tje 2nd highest bench scoring C with no defense ( bit with a lot of heart) and is recovering from an ACL ( so missed half the reg season) worth?

His defensive rating wasn't bad. I'm not sure what it'll look like after the ACL. We definitely need some more offense off the bench next season.

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If his defense was remotely satisfactory (at the C spot) he’d have been starting.

I know the quick answer will be “but we need bench scoring”…that’s a horses**t story…you don’t carry on with a glaring hole in your starting lineup if you’ve got a guy on the bench that could fill it…if Moe was an NBA starting Center, Weltman would already have given him $20m per. He’s a nice bench scorer with excellent BBIQ on only one end…he’s more like a big Cole than a big-time FA that BRK has been waiting for…he probably could start in BRK, with Claxton at C and Cam at SF, and put up artificially big numbers (like Cam did) but BRK didn’t blow it all up to free up cap space to spend it on Moe.

He’s in a perfect role in ORL…he’s not a $15m guy. He looks great off the bench, with Isaac “completing” him. This whole “pay my brother” thing is way overblown…this is precisely the time for Weltman to be careful with the money. Moe has made WAY more money each year in ORL than he made bouncing around the league prior…it’s a good fit…I WISH he could start, but clearly that’s not even been given serious consideration by Mose, considering all the injuries to WCJ, the attempted beefing up of Isaac, etc.

3yrs guaranteed, maybe $8 or $9m per…if we can fronload before Paolo kicks in, even better…but maybe not possible because of other moves- we’ll see what else happens. If BRK comes calling with stupid money, wish him the best…and don’t worry that Franz will demand out to play with big bro

[Magic_Johnny12]

Orlando has been strategic with 1+1 contracts to maintain flexibility, not sure why they change anything now when we’re even in a tighter spot financially to simply have the pleasure of gifting Mo a longterm contract even after him coming off a season ending injury.

Very very unlikely. If Mo wants longterm security his play (and health) would have to warrant it. Business is business.

We decline his option and sign him to another 1+1 either minimum deal or something a lot smaller than his current AAV.

Keep in mind he’s likely to miss half of the season and it would be a favor by the organization to sign him this summer so he’s able to continue to rehab properly and still be around the team instead of waiting until he’s fully healthy. I’m sure Orlando had options regarding using his expiring this past trade deadline and opted to keep him around so that should mean something to Mo and Orlando’s commitment to him.

Get healthy, continue your development, be a leader and we’ll talk a good extension next summer.

[basketballRob]

So the question comes down to is... how much is tje 2nd highest bench scoring C with no defense ( bit with a lot of heart) and is recovering from an ACL ( so missed half the reg season) worth?

His defensive rating wasn't bad. I'm not sure what it'll look like after the ACL. We definitely need some more offense off the bench next season.

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If his defense was remotely satisfactory (at the C spot) he’d have been starting.

I know the quick answer will be “but we need bench scoring”…that’s a horses**t story…you don’t carry on with a glaring hole in your starting lineup if you’ve got a guy on the bench that could fill it…if Moe was an NBA starting Center, Weltman would already have given him $20m per. He’s a nice bench scorer with excellent BBIQ on only one end…he’s more like a big Cole than a big-time FA that BRK has been waiting for…he probably could start in BRK, with Claxton at C and Cam at SF, and put up artificially big numbers (like Cam did) but BRK didn’t blow it all up to free up cap space to spend it on Moe.

He’s in a perfect role in ORL…he’s not a $15m guy. He looks great off the bench, with Isaac “completing” him. This whole “pay my brother” thing is way overblown…this is precisely the time for Weltman to be careful with the money. Moe has made WAY more money each year in ORL than he made bouncing around the league prior…it’s a good fit…I WISH he could start, but clearly that’s not even been given serious consideration by Mose, considering all the injuries to WCJ, the attempted beefing up of Isaac, etc.

3yrs guaranteed, maybe $8 or $9m per…if we can fronload before Paolo kicks in, even better…but maybe not possible because of other moves- we’ll see what else happens. If BRK comes calling with stupid money, wish him the best…and don’t worry that Franz will demand out to play with big bro

It depends on how he looks after the injury. I just don't see them give him a 3 - or 4-year deal while he's rehabbing.

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[VFX]

So he re-signs Moe and lets go of Cory and Gary….

To stay under the 1st apron he won’t be making major trades unless more expensive assets are attached outgoing.

Magic have a number of picks (4) and I don’t believe they make, and sign, ALL of them.

It’s just a much more difficult offseason to improve the roster because of 4 years of lack of improving the roster on the fringes in smaller deals.

But that’s how it’s going to be anyway?

The Magic are over the cap, so any trade would have to be relatively close financially.

Right, so no changes to the roster unless they add picks or AB to deals with overpriced role players.

It’s not like there are a bunch of lateral moves they can make with the mediocre players under contract.

So you are saying they will either do nothing willingly or they have to find extremely specific trade scenarios because they won’t go into the first apron. They’ll be in it next season regardless once they pay Paolo. Not sure why that matters for one season.

[basketballRob]

Cam Johnson is the best player available, but he doesn’t really fit. Do you just add the best available player and let things work themselves out? Brooklyn was reportedly wanted 2 first round picks.

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[89Magicfan]

Cam Johnson is the best player available, but he doesn’t really fit. Do you just add the best available player and let things work themselves out? Brooklyn was reportedly wanted 2 first round picks.

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Sounds like a Weltman move. I’m not opposed to it. Cam has injury concerns though and we’ll still have an PG issue imo.

[BadMofoPimp]

Cam Johnson is the best player available, but he doesn’t really fit. Do you just add the best available player and let things work themselves out? Brooklyn was reportedly wanted 2 first round picks.

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Sounds like a Weltman move. I’m not opposed to it. Cam has injury concerns though and we’ll still have an PG issue imo.

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[Knightro]

I agree that Moritz will be back, but I'm almost positive his option will be declined and he'll be resigned later in the process once they've made whatever trades they're going to make.

I would be shocked if he sticks around for his existing 1 year, $11M given his injury status.

What would you expect? Like a longer deal but smaller amount or both longer with biggrt amount?

Why would Moe agree on that?

Like he can't get some 3 years, $40M from anywhere else? Nets will be first in line to take him. Pistons need scoring big as well.

I don’t think coming off a torn ACL that Moritz is getting anything close to $40M guaranteed.

I would imagine he gets a 2 year deal at most.