Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[MickeyDavis]

Maybe we could get AD and a pick.

[ReasonablySober]

I haven't really made up my mind on Harper, but the answer is probably no unless there's a second piece that's basically just as good.

To the person in the comments on that tweet asking if the #3 or #4 pick is good enough to be a headliner for Giannis, absolutely **** no. I have basically no confidence that those picks will turn into good players, much less centerpiece in a Giannis trade players.

Harper looks like a really excellent young player, but I don't know if he's going to be special. And if I'm trading Giannis, I need to at least have the hope that the guy I'm getting can be special.

[soxperry]

If we weren't bucks fans we would love the Giannis watch. Change is fun. The nba is highly unique. Lets see what happens.

But also, theres no way in hell Flagg will ever be as impactful as Giannis. No way. That is mathematically impossible. San Antonio is the only team i could see turning that down solely because they already have the next all timer. Might be better to line up youngsters and be patient.

But anyone else, Flagg doesn't make you anything special.

[paulpressey25]

Tankathon - good reference for tonight.

https://www.tankathon.com

[mattg]

For me, if it’s not Flagg I’m riding it out and hoping to get lucky. Flagg is where it starts and ends if this is over.

Yep, if it's Giannis for Flagg then I could easily get behind that as a restart, it's as good as you can hope for. Not doing it for Harper/Bailey/whoever and some randoms

[humanrefutation]

Giannis is gone, guys. This is just the soft announcement. "Exploring options" will turn into "talking to players on other teams about a mutual fit" to "demanding a trade."

[soxperry]

I haven't really made up my mind on Harper, but the answer is probably no unless there's a second piece that's basically just as good.

To the person in the comments on that tweet asking if the #3 or #4 pick is good enough to be a headliner for Giannis, absolutely **** no. I have basically no confidence that those picks will turn into good players, much less centerpiece in a Giannis trade players.

Harper looks like a really excellent young player, but I don't know if he's going to be special. And if I'm trading Giannis, I need to at least have the hope that the guy I'm getting can be special.

Lets be clear..

If youre trading Giannis its because he wants to be traded. You ate therefore taking the best offer. Maybe we can land a special player that way, maybe not, but there's no guarantee

[humanrefutation]

The collective certainty that this is nothing might be right but it also might be cope.

If it's cope, then we've been coping for almost a decade as these stories pop up every year.

This is different because it isn't simply speculation from elsewhere. This is the first time we've seen Giannis linked with exploring a trade himself.

[Matches Malone]

The collective certainty that this is nothing might be right but it also might be cope.

If it's cope, then we've been coping for almost a decade as these stories pop up every year.

This is different because it isn't simply speculation from elsewhere. This is the first time we've seen Giannis linked with exploring a trade himself.

All shams said was he's open-minded to whether Milwaukee remains his best fit to win. I haven't seen anything linking Giannis himself exploring the trade. They're all following the Malik Andrews 2019 report and just re-mixing it.

[neiLz]

won't believe anything til i see giannis say the words "trade me" come out his mouth. but if the rockets or the spurs get that top pick, the bucks almost have to initiate a call, no?

[humanrefutation]

If it's cope, then we've been coping for almost a decade as these stories pop up every year.

This is different because it isn't simply speculation from elsewhere. This is the first time we've seen Giannis linked with exploring a trade himself.

All shams said was he's open-minded to whether Milwaukee remains his best fit to win. I haven't seen anything linking Giannis himself exploring the trade. They're all following the Malik Andrews 2019 report and just re-mixing it.

I read more into being "open-minded" then that. It's a soft way to signal to the rest of the league that Giannis is open to being traded.

[PG Graveyard]

If it's cope, then we've been coping for almost a decade as these stories pop up every year.

This is different because it isn't simply speculation from elsewhere. This is the first time we've seen Giannis linked with exploring a trade himself.

All shams said was he's open-minded to whether Milwaukee remains his best fit to win. I haven't seen anything linking Giannis himself exploring the trade. They're all following the Malik Andrews 2019 report and just re-mixing it.

He actually said out loud worse things multiple times in the fall of 2023 and then boom we traded for Dame.

I’m open to trading him though. It just had to be a ridiculous offer. More than what the Nets got for Durant and then some.

[BigO]

I was the one that brought up a month ago possibly trading giannis for Flagg and no one else. It seems the consensus here is the same.

I think Windhorst,et al have few connections and embellish whatever they do have.

His analysis that a team that gets the number one pick won't trade Flagg is BS in my view. While I love the guy (Flagg), it is still a huge risk for the Bucks and a no brainer for whoever gets Flagg. Getting Giannis is a sure thing.

I still think Giannias stays and I still think if they move on it's Flagg (plus assets) or bust.

[humanrefutation]

Any young player we trade Giannis for will be walking into an almost untenable situation - not only replacing a beloved superstar with a title, but replacing the franchise's greatest ever player. I don't envy that.

[MikeIsGood]

This is remarkably unsurprising. Not sure what will come of it, of course, but I certainly can believe that this is the closest he/we have ever been to parting ways. That makes perfect sense, even if he does end up staying (hopefully forever).

Flagg+ or no deal.

[Matches Malone]

If we weren't bucks fans we would love the Giannis watch. Change is fun. The nba is highly unique. Lets see what happens.

I don't mind change in the NBA, it's exciting, but this Giannis thing just feels so forced from ESPN/NBA to get him out. You don't get these rumors with Jokic or Embiid when they fail. Makes it seem like someone has a vendetta against the city of Milwaukee and feels personal.

You'd never see the NFL crap on its small markets the way the NBA does. Tired of these coastal pompus talking heads trying to get all the good NBA players in the same 3-4 markets while the small markets become g-league teams for big markets. MLB already has that covered

[machu46]

I was the one that brought up a month ago possibly trading giannis for Flagg and no one else. It seems the consensus here is the same.

I think Windhorst,et al have few connections and embellish whatever they do have.

His analysis that a team that gets the number one pick won't trade Flagg is BS in my view. While I love the guy, it is still a huge risk for the Bucks and a no brainer for whoever gets Flagg. Getting Giannis is a sure thing.

I still think Giannias stays and I still think if they move on it's Flagg (plus assets) or bust.

I think it depends who wins the lottery right? Like the Wizards for example almost certainly would not trade Flagg, Poole, and Kispert (just spitballing what it would take salary wise) for Giannis. That team is too far away for trading for Giannis to make sense.

A team like Philly or San Antonio, those I could understand considering it more.

[machu46]

If we weren't bucks fans we would love the Giannis watch. Change is fun. The nba is highly unique. Lets see what happens.

I don't mind change in the NBA, it's exciting, but this Giannis thing just feels so forced from ESPN/NBA to get him out. You don't get these rumors with Jokic or Embiid when they fail. Makes it seem like someone has a vendetta against the city of Milwaukee and feels personal.

You'd never see the NFL crap on its small markets the way the NBA does. Tired of these coastal pompus talking heads trying to get all the good NBA players in the same 3-4 markets while the small markets become g-league teams for big markets. MLB already has that covered

In the case of Embiid, I think it's more because the idea of trading for Giannis is exciting vs. trading for Embiid being kinda depressing at this point.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get there with Jokic in the next year or two if people continue to hammer their owners for cheaping out and they continue losing in the first or second round.

[Isocleas2]

There will probably never be another Buck I'll enjoy watching play as much as i enjoy watching Giannis, he's my generation's Kareem.

But just like Kareem when the window closes (and it has), you have to trade them for the best package you can and turn the page. It's the best move for the franchise and the best for the player. Giannis could legit win a couple more championships elsewhere and that isn't going to happen in Milwaukee. I know the Bucks didn't win another championship after they traded Kareem but they had some very good teams, the Bucks if they get the Giannis trade right could rebuild and be competitive again in a few years.

It hurts, but management really needs to think longterm here. If they don't and Giannis signs elsewhere in 2 years (or demands a trade his final year) the return will be crap and with no picks it'll be a long dark road back. The kind of road some franchises don't survive.

[wco81]

Bucks have exited in the first round in 3 consecutive postseasons.

What is the incentive to continue on this path, for either Giannis or the Bucks?

Without draft assets for several years, if he stayed the rest of the career, would the results be better?

Windhorst said teams like OKC and Brooklyn can offer the most, at least in terms of draft assets and maybe promising young players like JDub or Holmgren.

But if Giannis asks to go to a different team, which don’t have as many picks to send back, does he have enough equity with the team and fan base that the team should honor his request?

Or no, team has to get the best return that it can, even if that burns bridges?