Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[MickeyDavis]

Giannis in a bigger market will help networks justify the huge new $$$ they're paying beginning in October.

[Bernman]

Gonna be really funny when Charlotte or Utah wins the Flagg sweepstakes tonight and all this talk goes nowhere for the next 1-2 months.

What, the Giannis talk in general? It would still circulate because of our situation & the fact the media wants Giannis to a big market.

But as for the Flagg for Giannis talk, we all know it's lottery. Odds are around even a team who would consider trading it for Giannis wins it, as opposed to not. Utah, Charlotte, Washington combine for a 42% chance. It seems you're rooting for the Bucks to not have options in case.

[paulpressey25]

Kareem demanded a trade. They never would've traded him otherwise.

Yep.

And the difference with the players from that trade is that they were supplemented by the Bucks holding/trading for a number of high picks in the 1976-1979 drafts. Marques, Sidney, Benson, Grunfeld, Quinn all held varying levels of value.

[paulpressey25]

Gonna be really funny when Charlotte or Utah wins the Flagg sweepstakes tonight and all this talk goes nowhere for the next 1-2 months.

We need a 1-4 sweep by bottom teams. Otherwise the media gonna tell us pick #4 and Edgecombe is worth two Giannis.

Charlotte, Washington, Utah and Sacramento need to go top 4 tonight. Otherwise there is an easier ESPN trade story line with the rest of the teams.

[PG Graveyard]

The Shams tweet said Giannis is "open minded" about it, now the ESPN article headline is "Giannis Antetokounmpo to explore best fits outside of Milwaukee" I hate everything about ESPN. I know they aren't the only one's who do this but other than watching games themselves there is never ever a reason to have ESPN on. And I don't.

Man they are just shameless at this point. It’s exhausting

[Daver]

Kareem demanded a trade. They never would've traded him otherwise.

Yep.

And the difference with the players from that trade is that they were supplemented by the Bucks holding/trading for a number of high picks in the 1976-1979 drafts. Marques, Sidney, Benson, Grunfeld, Quinn all held varying levels of value.

Also thought players they got for kareem for the most part were really good Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Junior Bridgeman, and Dave Meyers so overall they csme out very well.

[FrieAaron]

Kareem demanded a trade. They never would've traded him otherwise.

Yep.

And the difference with the players from that trade is that they were supplemented by the Bucks holding/trading for a number of high picks in the 1976-1979 drafts. Marques, Sidney, Benson, Grunfeld, Quinn all held varying levels of value.

Also thought players they got for kareem for the most part were really good Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Junior Bridgeman, and Dave Meyers so overall they csme out very well.

And they still wouldn't have nor should have done it if it weren't demanded.

[PG Graveyard]

The league really wants to push the narrative of Giannis in a bigger market. regardless is we flame in out rd1, rd2 anything short of winning a chip they were going to run with this narrative all off season. its disgusting and makes me not want to watch their rigged league

They were doing it when we were 27-4 in 2019 while killing everyone. They did after he resigned in 2023. The only year we got a pass at all was 2022.

It’s a lot of pressure for this organization to handle.

[Daver]

Yep.

And the difference with the players from that trade is that they were supplemented by the Bucks holding/trading for a number of high picks in the 1976-1979 drafts. Marques, Sidney, Benson, Grunfeld, Quinn all held varying levels of value.

Also thought players they got for kareem for the most part were really good Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Junior Bridgeman, and Dave Meyers so overall they csme out very well.

And they still wouldn't have nor should have done it if it weren't demanded.

I agree just saying i would rather hsve quality players(AD trade) then draft picks JMO

[machu46]

Gonna be really funny when Charlotte or Utah wins the Flagg sweepstakes tonight and all this talk goes nowhere for the next 1-2 months.

We need a 1-4 sweep by bottom teams. Otherwise the media gonna tell us pick #4 and Edgecombe is worth two Giannis.

Charlotte, Washington, Utah and Sacramento need to go top 4 tonight. Otherwise there is an easier ESPN trade story line with the rest of the teams.

Yes they will 100% argue that Harper is good enough to be a centerpiece in a Giannis trade and will probably say Ace Bailey and VJ are too.

[emunney]

There will probably never be another Buck I'll enjoy watching play as much as i enjoy watching Giannis, he's my generation's Kareem.

But just like Kareem when the window closes (and it has), you have to trade them for the best package you can and turn the page. It's the best move for the franchise and the best for the player. Giannis could legit win a couple more championships elsewhere and that isn't going to happen in Milwaukee. I know the Bucks didn't win another championship after they traded Kareem but they had some very good teams, the Bucks if they get the Giannis trade right could rebuild and be competitive again in a few years.

It hurts, but management really needs to think longterm here. If they don't and Giannis signs elsewhere in 2 years (or demands a trade his final year) the return will be crap and with no picks it'll be a long dark road back. The kind of road some franchises don't survive.

Kareem demanded a trade. They never would've traded him otherwise.

Also the Bucks were 38-44 in Kareem's last year in a radically different league landscape with no free agency.

[wco81]

The league really wants to push the narrative of Giannis in a bigger market. regardless is we flame in out rd1, rd2 anything short of winning a chip they were going to run with this narrative all off season. its disgusting and makes me not want to watch their rigged league

They were doing it when we were 27-4 in 2019 while killing everyone. They did after he resigned in 2023. The only year we got a pass at all was 2022.

It’s a lot of pressure for this organization to handle.

Unless he comes out categorically and says that he doesn't want to be traded, this story will linger in the offseason.

For instance, if the Knicks blow the 2-0 lead, NY media will pump up the trade talk for Giannis.

Look at the drama with the Luka trade, about him crying, about how much Nico screwed up, whether Lebron knew, etc. It became a huge story and sales of Luka's jerseys shot way up.

Only Giannis can shut down the offseason rumor mongering, though once the season is over, there will be some news with free agency, possibly a team like the Celtics having to shed salary and trade away key role players.

[RRyder823]

I expect people on the general board to fall for the click bait tweet but damn guys i expect more from a lot of you

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[Ron Swanson]

Yes, I'm not naive enough to think that the Giannis trade talk isn't gonna dominate the next 2-3 months of casual discourse regardless. I'm talking about specifically this fantasy from all these other poverty franchises that still think they're gonna be "in the driver's seat" without winning the lottery (see: San Antonio, Brooklyn, Philly, New Orleans, etc.), as well as a large portion of this board who are all too happy to feed the outrage algorithm based on a single Shams tweet.

We've got a month of playoff basketball to go still, and we're talking about like, a less than 10-15% total chance that one of 3 teams not even in the Top-4 odds (Houston, Philly, SA) will win it. They needed to drum up casual interest in a half hour special where they pick ping-poll balls out of a tumbler, so mission accomplished by the league's new mouthpiece (re: Shams), I guess. Like, Houston has a 3.8% chance at getting #1. What are we doing here?

[ReasonablySober]

Stein:

• League sources say that Antetokounmpo, no matter what was breathlessly discussed and debated on the Monday morning talk shows, has made no firm decisions yet about his future. Maybe he will ultimately ask the Bucks to trade him. At the moment, though, that is still a maybe.

• The Bucks, league sources say, remain hopeful that Antetokounmpo will not ask out after a third successive first-round exit. Maybe it is false hope, but Milwaukee — as we've been writing all season — isn't going to entertain the prospect of trading its face of the franchise until it has to.

• Neither of the first two points will dissuade 29 other teams from checking in with the Bucks this week as well as Antetokounmpo's representation — and, yes, Octagon's Alex Saratsis is a Northwestern grad based in Chicago — to register their interest in the event that the 30-year-old who has spent his entire 12-year as a career as a Buck is made available via trade.

• It is believed that the Bucks' annual postseason sitdown with Saratsis and co-agent Georgios Panou to delve into Antetokounmpo's future has not yet taken place.

• We refer you to the lengthy piece above written in November which details why so many rival teams believe that Antetokounmpo eventually will push for a departure from Brewtown. That belief only grew after Antetokounmpo went on his brother Thanasis' podcast in mid-April and said: "Me not having a second championship … I look back at my career and everybody can say, 'Oh, incredible career, active Hall of Famer, first ballot, whatever.' But me, my personal goal, if I am not able to help my team win a second ring, I'm letting down myself."

• Don't forget that Antetokounmpo is likely in the extreme to try to dictate the destination to the extent that is possible … provided, once again, he actually requests a trade. He has two fully guaranteed years left on his contract before a $62.8 million player option in 2027-28.

• Putting aside, for a moment, how much Giannis will be able to actually dictate destination … we've been writing since January that Antetokounmpo is Brooklyn's dream trade target. Houston and San Antonio are obviously incredibly well-positioned to make a trade run at the two-time MVP. Oklahoma City certainly could be an extremely viable trade partner if the Thunder decided to divert from their famously patient team-building approach to join the fray. Utah is another team with a variety of trade assets that never gets mentioned in these hypotheticals. New Orleans is a team to monitor, too, as a potential participant in an eventual multi-team Antetokounmpo trade construction because the Pelicans have control of the Bucks' first-round pick in the next three drafts.

• Yet we repeat: That is only a partial list of teams expected to make trade bids for Antetokounmpo if (when?) we reach the point that the Bucks start fielding offers. One more time: We are not there yet.

Emphasis on yet.

[wco81]

OKC may yet win the title.

But they're going to give SGA a super max extension in the next couple of years and also have to pay JDub and Holmgren out of their rookie deals. They gave Caruso and Hartenstein big contracts too and they have other key role players like Cason Wallace again looking for a big increase out of their rookie contracts.

So they may want to consolidate assets, especially if they don't win this year after having an historic season.

[German Athens]

It’s amusing to me when a warriors fan comes to this board asking about Giannis, stating how we’ve had 3 first round exits, and asking a bunch of loaded questions.

We’ve witnessed the Warriors not make the playoffs in consecutive years, then follow that up by winning a title on the back of an all-timer. Two seasons later miss the playoffs again, be under .500 mid way through the following year, trade a solid player and 1 1st, and completely change the trajectory of their team.

They should know better than most how quickly things can change. Don't bring that disingenuous BS here.

[Matches Malone]

Listen to how excited windy is. You'd think they just put a burger in front of him. These people are sickos the way they cover this league.

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[Rstuedes24]

Don't understand why people think Houston could put together some crazy offer. Zero interest in Jalen Green and Jabari Smith and picks as a return.

OKC seems like the only team with assets that would be worth getting. And even then it would be crazy to not walk out of that deal getting Chet, Jwill and a few picks.

[humanrefutation]

Listen to how excited windy is. You'd think they just put a burger in front of him. These people are sickos the way they cover this league.

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He didn't say anything wrong here.