Steve Kerr was grossly outcoached in this series

[The-Power]

the only players they should retrieve next season are curry, butler, green (question mark, depending on roster construction), hield (he's the only shooter a roster with steph), kuminga (question mark). and THAT"S IT.

There's no question mark around Kuminga, come on.

yes, question mark.
depends how much $$ he wants to stay and which other players will be available in the market.
if gianis wants out of MIL and has GS as a welcome landing spot for instance, is kuminga off the table in trade negotiations?

I mean that there's no question that Kuminga is gone. He is in his fourth year and still not even a core rotation player because of his shortcomings and poor fit. He'll sign somewhere for as much money as he can get and we'll be fine letting him leave.

[superunknown]

There's no question mark around Kuminga, come on.

yes, question mark.
depends how much $$ he wants to stay and which other players will be available in the market.
if gianis wants out of MIL and has GS as a welcome landing spot for instance, is kuminga off the table in trade negotiations?

I mean that there's no question that Kuminga is gone. He is in his fourth year and still not even a core rotation player because of his shortcomings and poor fit. He'll sign somewhere for as much money as he can get and we'll be fine letting him leave.

if this is the case, they better orchestrate a sign&trade then.

[Romulus]

What's new?

[The-Power]

yes, question mark.
depends how much $$ he wants to stay and which other players will be available in the market.
if gianis wants out of MIL and has GS as a welcome landing spot for instance, is kuminga off the table in trade negotiations?

I mean that there's no question that Kuminga is gone. He is in his fourth year and still not even a core rotation player because of his shortcomings and poor fit. He'll sign somewhere for as much money as he can get and we'll be fine letting him leave.

if this is the case, they better orchestrate a sign&trade then.

That's the best case for us. It only works if Kuminga doesn't opt for a team with enough cap space, though (fortunately, there aren't that many). That being said, Kuminga doesn't have the value to return much in a S&T. So don't be disappointed.

[Jester_]

nah this aint on kerr

[SpreeS]

There's no question mark around Kuminga, come on.

yes, question mark.
depends how much $$ he wants to stay and which other players will be available in the market.
if gianis wants out of MIL and has GS as a welcome landing spot for instance, is kuminga off the table in trade negotiations?

I mean that there's no question that Kuminga is gone. He is in his fourth year and still not even a core rotation player because of his shortcomings and poor fit. He'll sign somewhere for as much money as he can get and we'll be fine letting him leave.

Doesnt fit to who?...To guy with 2pts 2reb 4ast 5tovs and 6fouls? Or to leaders who have already injured in first 10 PO games? Yes you fill be fine letting Kuminga leave, because you dont have any other real options.

[cpower]

LOL!

It doesn't even matter what any coach would do with Jimmy and Draymond playing like that.

So you are saying being 1st in defense can't stop Ant can't stop Randle also can't stop role players? I understand from offensive standpoint we are toast without Steph but how are we letting them get whatever they wanted ?

[Impuniti]

Steve has made some mistakes but this isn't on him. He set his team to win game 3, which was the game to win. Outside of Jimmy, JK, and to a much lesser extent Buddy, every single player was terrible.

Every. single. player.

[Onus]

the roster is pure shite. this is the reality to embrace. dubs missing 2 quality level starters (a SG and another wing) and other 2 reliable bench players (1PG/SG who can handle the ball and a big man who can give quality minutes).
I agree with who says it'd be better have 6-7 reliable players and the rest g-leaguers than this amount of mediocre players who cannot be trusted. there are too many scrubs on the roster. they cannot even play above average 1 effing game out of 4. even a broken clock is right twice a day, yet the likes of podz, moody, post, etc. cannot even play a great game every 4.
the only players they should retrieve next season are curry, butler, green (question mark, depending on roster construction), hield (he's the only shooter a roster with steph), kuminga (question mark). and THAT"S IT. the rest of the current players should be traded in an attempt to land upgrades in every position becasue they are not good.
if giannis wants to come over then even butler, green and kuminga are expendable.

having said that, the CS hasn't been part part of the solution, and not because of this series in particular but for everything else before.

We need a 3/d wing. Think Buddy is a great option at sg, but we need another.

We need a bench creator/pg.

We need a 2 way big, need to lessen Dray's load.

We have 4 players in Steph/Jimmy/Dray/Buddy. We need a 5th that can complement this group.

JK can be a 6th man. His variance is just way too high to be reliable.

BP can be an energy guard off the bench.

GP needs to be replaced. His defense is just non-existent now. Really want DSJ to replace him as our poa defender.

That's a lot of things to need for a title contender.

[Onus]

There's no question mark around Kuminga, come on.

yes, question mark.
depends how much $$ he wants to stay and which other players will be available in the market.
if gianis wants out of MIL and has GS as a welcome landing spot for instance, is kuminga off the table in trade negotiations?

I mean that there's no question that Kuminga is gone. He is in his fourth year and still not even a core rotation player because of his shortcomings and poor fit. He'll sign somewhere for as much money as he can get and we'll be fine letting him leave.

JK is going to be on this team next year.

[warriorschamps]

Come on. This is silly. Kerr hasn't been perfect but if you take the best player off any team in the playoffs they aren't going to win. Especially Golden State even more so than most teams because nothing works offensively or defensively without Curry.

If anything the last three games have probably been closer than they should have been without Curry. So that's a credit to the team and yes Kerr.

If you are someone who want to blame Kerr for something and to be clear I'm NOT one pf those people the thing you could blame him for is bumping Curry minutes up quite high and quickly. He went from like 32 minutes to 41 minutes. That's a lot for anyone especially an older player. He should have been gradually bumping Curry minutes up throughout April so his body could get used to the workload. At the same time he probably wasn't expecting the 1st playoff series to be so physical. But you have to expect everything. At the same time in Kerr defense if he didn't bump Curry minutes up they would have been swept by Houston.

[Crazy-Canuck]

the roster is pure shite. this is the reality to embrace. dubs missing 2 quality level starters (a SG and another wing) and other 2 reliable bench players (1PG/SG who can handle the ball and a big man who can give quality minutes).
I agree with who says it'd be better have 6-7 reliable players and the rest g-leaguers than this amount of mediocre players who cannot be trusted. there are too many scrubs on the roster. they cannot even play above average 1 effing game out of 4. even a broken clock is right twice a day, yet the likes of podz, moody, post, etc. cannot even play a great game every 4.
the only players they should retrieve next season are curry, butler, green (question mark, depending on roster construction), hield (he's the only shooter a roster with steph), kuminga (question mark). and THAT"S IT. the rest of the current players should be traded in an attempt to land upgrades in every position becasue they are not good.
if giannis wants to come over then even butler, green and kuminga are expendable.

having said that, the CS hasn't been part part of the solution, and not because of this series in particular but for everything else before.

We need a 3/d wing. Think Buddy is a great option at sg, but we need another.

We need a bench creator/pg.

We need a 2 way big, need to lessen Dray's load.

We have 4 players in Steph/Jimmy/Dray/Buddy. We need a 5th that can complement this group.

JK can be a 6th man. His variance is just way too high to be reliable.

BP can be an energy guard off the bench.

GP needs to be replaced. His defense is just non-existent now. Really want DSJ to replace him as our poa defender.

That's a lot of things to need for a title contender.

If dray is going to transition to more 5, the priority has to be a 3 and D. An athletic big wing, more specifically to sandwich between steph/buddy and jimmy/dray. Easier said than done though, since every contender is looking for that same archetype. Moody and jk will have some work to do this off season.

[cpower]

Steve has made some mistakes but this isn't on him. He set his team to win game 3, which was the game to win. Outside of Jimmy, JK, and to a much lesser extent Buddy, every single player was terrible.

Every. single. player.

He also punt a G2 for no reason. If the tryout game is to promote TJD then that move just lost us the series

[Onus]

the roster is pure shite. this is the reality to embrace. dubs missing 2 quality level starters (a SG and another wing) and other 2 reliable bench players (1PG/SG who can handle the ball and a big man who can give quality minutes).
I agree with who says it'd be better have 6-7 reliable players and the rest g-leaguers than this amount of mediocre players who cannot be trusted. there are too many scrubs on the roster. they cannot even play above average 1 effing game out of 4. even a broken clock is right twice a day, yet the likes of podz, moody, post, etc. cannot even play a great game every 4.
the only players they should retrieve next season are curry, butler, green (question mark, depending on roster construction), hield (he's the only shooter a roster with steph), kuminga (question mark). and THAT"S IT. the rest of the current players should be traded in an attempt to land upgrades in every position becasue they are not good.
if giannis wants to come over then even butler, green and kuminga are expendable.

having said that, the CS hasn't been part part of the solution, and not because of this series in particular but for everything else before.

We need a 3/d wing. Think Buddy is a great option at sg, but we need another.

We need a bench creator/pg.

We need a 2 way big, need to lessen Dray's load.

We have 4 players in Steph/Jimmy/Dray/Buddy. We need a 5th that can complement this group.

JK can be a 6th man. His variance is just way too high to be reliable.

BP can be an energy guard off the bench.

GP needs to be replaced. His defense is just non-existent now. Really want DSJ to replace him as our poa defender.

That's a lot of things to need for a title contender.

If dray is going to transition to more 5, the priority has to be a 3 and D. An athletic big wing, more specifically to sandwich between steph/buddy and jimmy/dray. Easier said than done though, since every contender is looking for that same archetype. Moody and jk will have some work to do this off season.

Yea I think a 3 and d wing is the biggest need headed into next season. But Jimmy presents issues to team building in that he can't really guard pfs like Julius, JJJ, but then you also don't want him to guard superstar wings for a full game either.

JK might actually be able to be the defender type we need, but him not being able to shoot with Jimmy and Dray also not being willing shooters makes it a tough fit.

[cpower]

Steve has made some mistakes but this isn't on him. He set his team to win game 3, which was the game to win. Outside of Jimmy, JK, and to a much lesser extent Buddy, every single player was terrible.

Every. single. player.

I would say playing your worst player on the team as 5th option is something you don't see everyday. There is no logic sense to play TJD over looney and Santos after one season of sucking

[whatisacenter]

LOL!

It doesn't even matter what any coach would do with Jimmy and Draymond playing like that.

So you are saying being 1st in defense can't stop Ant can't stop Randle also can't stop role players? I understand from offensive standpoint we are toast without Steph but how are we letting them get whatever they wanted ?

Were you watching the game?

Draymond was a turnstile. Jimmy couldn't stop a nosebleed. GP2 has fallen off a cliff.

Who did you want Kerr to put out there defensively? Post? Podz? Knox?

[WarriorGM]

Steve has made some mistakes but this isn't on him. He set his team to win game 3, which was the game to win. Outside of Jimmy, JK, and to a much lesser extent Buddy, every single player was terrible.

Every. single. player.

No. Looney was fine. Santos was fine. Other players were played in what the regular season showed were suboptimal lineups. Kerr then winged it when Kuminga showed he was playable throwing him in lineups with Butler (defensible) and TJD (huh?). Symptomatic of this was Spencer and Kuminga being set up to fail in their first outing in Game 2 during that -10 in 3 minutes debacle in a lineup that put them together despite being about the worst pairing on the team for each other along with another known mediocre pairing with Moody. If I wanted those guys to succeed I'd put them along players they seem to play well with and that flatter them. Not Kerr—ah correction he does do that—for TJD even if it caused the team's best players to be less productive than they should have been playing with someone else.

[DB23]

Are all you guys defending Kerr giving up? Are you all saying there was no way to win?

Then what I want to see is Spencer starting and if the team goes down in flames it will be predictable and I will join the chorus exonerating Kerr and saying he had too little to work with.

But why is it I keep getting the feeling they'd win? Just don't play him with Kuminga.

Not at all, he’s accountable like the players are accountable. For some reason we hold the coach accountable but let the players off.

But ask yourself fairly, are we really as talented as the wolves without Steph?

I think his gamble on podz has not paid off, and that’s the main blame I put on him.

Honestly, tjd, looney or post what’s the difference?

This series was won or lost because dray played below standard in game 3 and podz/moody have been horrendous.

[WarriorGM]

Are all you guys defending Kerr giving up? Are you all saying there was no way to win?

Then what I want to see is Spencer starting and if the team goes down in flames it will be predictable and I will join the chorus exonerating Kerr and saying he had too little to work with.

But why is it I keep getting the feeling they'd win? Just don't play him with Kuminga.

Not at all, he’s accountable like the players are accountable. For some reason we hold the coach accountable but let the players off.

But ask yourself fairly, are we really as talented as the wolves without Steph?

I think his gamble on podz has not paid off, and that’s the main blame I put on him.

Honestly, tjd, looney or post what’s the difference?

This series was won or lost because dray played below standard in game 3 and podz/moody have been horrendous.

Looney had many positive lineups during the regular season involving him that also involved players like GPII and Kuminga. Unlocking that would have made more players playable giving aging Butler and Draymond more time to recuperate and be their best. TJD? Losing lineups everywhere wasting the minutes of the best players.

Podz wasn't horrendous just bad at scoring.

[DB23]

Are all you guys defending Kerr giving up? Are you all saying there was no way to win?

Then what I want to see is Spencer starting and if the team goes down in flames it will be predictable and I will join the chorus exonerating Kerr and saying he had too little to work with.

But why is it I keep getting the feeling they'd win? Just don't play him with Kuminga.

Not at all, he’s accountable like the players are accountable. For some reason we hold the coach accountable but let the players off.

But ask yourself fairly, are we really as talented as the wolves without Steph?

I think his gamble on podz has not paid off, and that’s the main blame I put on him.

Honestly, tjd, looney or post what’s the difference?

This series was won or lost because dray played below standard in game 3 and podz/moody have been horrendous.

Looney had many positive lineups during the regular season involving him that also involved players like GPII and Kuminga. Unlocking that would have made more players playable giving aging Butler and Draymond more time to recuperate and be their best. TJD? Losing lineups everywhere wasting the minutes of the best players.

Podz wasn't horrendous.

I guess you’d put me in the Kerr defender camp.

I just believe the roster is flawed and short. I don’t think there was a lineup equation that worked unless draymond and butler were a++

Honestly, I think we would have needed a miracle to get past okc anyway so I’m not as bummed as most

And on podz - he messed up several offensive possessions in the first half with his lack of confidence. He needs to shoot way better too