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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#141 » by MHeat0279 » Sun May 18, 2025 2:57 pm

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Dylan Harper is going to be the starting PG for the Bucks next year. Damn Spurs will get Giannis and draft Essengue at 14.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#142 » by Beenie » Sun May 18, 2025 4:06 pm

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Doesnt factor in picks which undoubtedly would need to be included.

Maybe Pho gets 2 firsts and Mil gets 1

*Pho would get additional players ie Jovic, JJJ
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#143 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun May 18, 2025 4:22 pm

Heat will currently have 9.4 million in cap space going into the offseason. Once they issue the QO of 8.7 million to Davion Mitchell that figure shrinks to basically no wiggle room to sign anyone else. Signing our 20th pick will put us back in the tax as that will add an extra 3.8 million. Duncan's contract of 10 million in savings can give us the wiggle room to sign some players to fill out the roster but that contract is also going to be very valuable in trade to teams in much more dire cap situations then we are. If we enter into the tax again this year we become a repeater tax team. Something this franchise has never done. Other options preclude shipping out players and taking less back in salary or trying to dump the contracts of Kyle Anderson or Haywood Highsmith but that will cost us assets we already barely have. Will be interesting how Andy navigates this. Suns without a doubt will want Duncan's tax lifeline contract but that puts us in a bind with the tax without another move to dump salary.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#144 » by Beenie » Sun May 18, 2025 4:37 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat will currently have 9.4 million in cap space going into the offseason. Once they issue the QO of 8.7 million to Davion Mitchell that figure shrinks to basically no wiggle room to sign anyone else. Signing our 20th pick will put us back in the tax as that will add an extra 3.8 million. Duncan's contract of 10 million in savings can give us the wiggle room to sign some players to fill out the roster but that contract is also going to be very valuable in trade to teams in much more dire cap situations then we are. If we enter into the tax again this year we become a repeater tax team. Something this franchise has never done. Other options preclude shipping out players and taking less back in salary or trying to dump the contracts of Kyle Anderson or Haywood Highsmith but that will cost us assets we already barely have. Will be interesting how Andy navigates this. Suns without a doubt will want Duncan's tax lifeline contract but that puts us in a bind with the tax without another move to dump salary.


If Mia is indeed in on Giannis, KD or any other marquee player, it's a safe assumption that they will be trying to win a chip next season and therefore the model of eluding the repeater tax threshold becomes less of a hard line, I would imagine.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#145 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun May 18, 2025 4:44 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat will currently have 9.4 million in cap space going into the offseason. Once they issue the QO of 8.7 million to Davion Mitchell that figure shrinks to basically no wiggle room to sign anyone else. Signing our 20th pick will put us back in the tax as that will add an extra 3.8 million. Duncan's contract of 10 million in savings can give us the wiggle room to sign some players to fill out the roster but that contract is also going to be very valuable in trade to teams in much more dire cap situations then we are. If we enter into the tax again this year we become a repeater tax team. Something this franchise has never done. Other options preclude shipping out players and taking less back in salary or trying to dump the contracts of Kyle Anderson or Haywood Highsmith but that will cost us assets we already barely have. Will be interesting how Andy navigates this. Suns without a doubt will want Duncan's tax lifeline contract but that puts us in a bind with the tax without another move to dump salary.


If Mia is indeed in on Giannis, KD or any other marquee player, it's a safe assumption that they will be trying to win a chip next season and therefore the model of eluding the repeater tax threshold becomes less of a hard line, I would imagine.

Not even during the big 3 era they ventured into the repeater tax so history suggest this is not even an option. History says that's a safe assumption
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#146 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun May 18, 2025 5:06 pm

You all just tell me what I need to tell Randy Embry to tell that old bastard Patrick the plan needs to be this summer and I’ll get the word to him one way or another.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#147 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun May 18, 2025 7:24 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#148 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun May 18, 2025 7:58 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#149 » by contract » Sun May 18, 2025 8:05 pm

HeatFan_NC wrote:Is there a post on here that shows who our free agents are this year? Or perhaps there's a link to a webpage that has that info.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIA.html

That shows you when everyone's contract ends, who has player or team options, and who has only partially guaranteed salaries.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#150 » by VaDe255 » Sun May 18, 2025 8:14 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat will currently have 9.4 million in cap space going into the offseason. Once they issue the QO of 8.7 million to Davion Mitchell that figure shrinks to basically no wiggle room to sign anyone else. Signing our 20th pick will put us back in the tax as that will add an extra 3.8 million. Duncan's contract of 10 million in savings can give us the wiggle room to sign some players to fill out the roster but that contract is also going to be very valuable in trade to teams in much more dire cap situations then we are. If we enter into the tax again this year we become a repeater tax team. Something this franchise has never done. Other options preclude shipping out players and taking less back in salary or trying to dump the contracts of Kyle Anderson or Haywood Highsmith but that will cost us assets we already barely have. Will be interesting how Andy navigates this. Suns without a doubt will want Duncan's tax lifeline contract but that puts us in a bind with the tax without another move to dump salary.


I think they just waive Duncan. It gives them more flexibility overall. By waiving him themselves, they still create the same cap relief as if another team traded for him and then waived him but with the added benefit of being able to decide how much of that $10M they want to take back in a deal.

They’ve also got so many expiring contracts: Terry, Kyle, Highsmith, Jaquez, Love and that big Wiggins for a larger move.

Could be a very active offseason.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#151 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun May 18, 2025 8:45 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat will currently have 9.4 million in cap space going into the offseason. Once they issue the QO of 8.7 million to Davion Mitchell that figure shrinks to basically no wiggle room to sign anyone else. Signing our 20th pick will put us back in the tax as that will add an extra 3.8 million. Duncan's contract of 10 million in savings can give us the wiggle room to sign some players to fill out the roster but that contract is also going to be very valuable in trade to teams in much more dire cap situations then we are. If we enter into the tax again this year we become a repeater tax team. Something this franchise has never done. Other options preclude shipping out players and taking less back in salary or trying to dump the contracts of Kyle Anderson or Haywood Highsmith but that will cost us assets we already barely have. Will be interesting how Andy navigates this. Suns without a doubt will want Duncan's tax lifeline contract but that puts us in a bind with the tax without another move to dump salary.


I think they just waive Duncan. It gives them more flexibility overall. By waiving him themselves, they still create the same cap relief as if another team traded for him and then waived him but with the added benefit of being able to decide how much of that $10M they want to take back in a deal.

They’ve also got so many expiring contracts: Terry, Kyle, Highsmith, Jaquez, Love and that big Wiggins for a larger move.

Could be a very active offseason.

Been going back and forth with Duncan’s contract. Some days i think it definitely will be traded than next i circle back and say it’s more valuable to us unless we can dump Anderson’s contract. Easiest path of course to getting close to 20 million under the tax line is with Duncan’s contract that allows max flexibility.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#152 » by HeatFan_NC » Sun May 18, 2025 8:55 pm

We have some pieces that can definitely help teams out there that might be a player away from title contention. Watching the OKC/DEN game right now. OKC could use a knock-down shooter. I wouldn't mind sending Herro to OKC for Caruso, Wallace, and a couple FRPs. Caruso is defending Jokic like Jason Terry did LeBron in the 2011 Finals
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#153 » by dolphinatik » Sun May 18, 2025 11:31 pm

call me crazy but I think Heat should go hard after Jonathan Kuminga. They wanted him in the Jimmy Trade.. They can front load an offer the Warriors cant match next year.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#154 » by Beenie » Sun May 18, 2025 11:35 pm

dolphinatik wrote:call me crazy but I think Heat should go hard after Jonathan Kuminga. They wanted him in the Jimmy Trade.. They can front load an offer the Warriors cant match next year.



Hes a Tito.

And will be an overpaid one on long term contract. No thanks.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#156 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon May 19, 2025 2:57 am

HeatFan_NC wrote:We have some pieces that can definitely help teams out there that might be a player away from title contention. Watching the OKC/DEN game right now. OKC could use a knock-down shooter. I wouldn't mind sending Herro to OKC for Caruso, Wallace, and a couple FRPs. Caruso is defending Jokic like Jason Terry did LeBron in the 2011 Finals

Riley is not trading his culture captain Bam and definitely not trading his grandson and tequila shot taking buddy Herro. We are not having a fire sale this year and OKC would have zero interest in a deal like that. Wiggins on the other hand could definitely help a contending team. He never looked comfortable here so need to cash him in for a better fit or fits.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#157 » by Enso » Mon May 19, 2025 3:32 am

Yeah I think we move on from Wiggins or at least they'll try to
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#158 » by Vertical Limit » Mon May 19, 2025 3:59 am

Hopefully if quinn gets the job at phoenix he can convince them that wiggins is a piece he needs.. he can have duncan and rozier too
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#159 » by Kobewade11 » Mon May 19, 2025 11:54 am

dolphinatik wrote:call me crazy but I think Heat should go hard after Jonathan Kuminga. They wanted him in the Jimmy Trade.. They can front load an offer the Warriors cant match next year.


Not enough of a sample size for me to want to take on that risk. All we've seen is him ball out with no Steph, Jimmy afraid to take over, and a team not really game planning for him.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#160 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon May 19, 2025 12:26 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:Hopefully if quinn gets the job at phoenix he can convince them that wiggins is a piece he needs.. he can have duncan and rozier too


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