2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[twix2500]

My outlook is Niko is going into his third season (his first season was a red shirt physical development), the Heat should give him an opportunity to compete as the starting 3 and be used as a scorer and play maker. Niko had a good 2nd year. 11pt, 4rb and 3ast at 37 3p% and 56 eFG is a solid performance off the bench. He is still developing physically and mentally. Like Herro he needs to stay away from injury. I think there is a Hedo Turkoglu or Detlef Schrempf in him.

This, my problem with the Heat's development system. It seems good for developing defensive roleplayers instead of stars. I would have much preferred if they tried to play him like a poor man's Luka over the years than develop a Heat big man with his skills.

I think that Niko has a good deal of potential to unlock. There’s not many in the association with his combination of size and skill set.

I agree that he needs to opportunity to be used as a scorer and playmaker Twix. There were snippets of chemistry between Niko and Kelel, as well as Bam. I think he can make the game easier for those two specifically.

Hallstar, that’s a fair assessment. I think that defense as a first, second and third priority can be detrimental. Ideally, you want to build a person by starting with what they are good at.

Well you have to understand Niko grew 2 to 3 inches after he declared for the draft. He was a 6'7 guard overseas. He had to finish growing and learn his new body. Niko was very raw, he wasn't someone that perfected his game before he declared for the draft. He was still learning to be a 6'7 guard.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

This, my problem with the Heat's development system. It seems good for developing defensive roleplayers instead of stars. I would have much preferred if they tried to play him like a poor man's Luka over the years than develop a Heat big man with his skills.

I think that Niko has a good deal of potential to unlock. There’s not many in the association with his combination of size and skill set.

I agree that he needs to opportunity to be used as a scorer and playmaker Twix. There were snippets of chemistry between Niko and Kelel, as well as Bam. I think he can make the game easier for those two specifically.

Hallstar, that’s a fair assessment. I think that defense as a first, second and third priority can be detrimental. Ideally, you want to build a person by starting with what they are good at.

Well you have to understand Niko grew 2 to 3 inches after he declared for the draft. He was a 6'7 guard overseas. He had to finish growing and learn his new body. Niko was very raw, he wasn't someone that perfected his game before he declared for the draft. He was still learning to be a 6'7 guard.

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[eddieheatfan]

I think that Niko has a good deal of potential to unlock. There’s not many in the association with his combination of size and skill set.

I agree that he needs to opportunity to be used as a scorer and playmaker Twix. There were snippets of chemistry between Niko and Kelel, as well as Bam. I think he can make the game easier for those two specifically.

Hallstar, that’s a fair assessment. I think that defense as a first, second and third priority can be detrimental. Ideally, you want to build a person by starting with what they are good at.

Well you have to understand Niko grew 2 to 3 inches after he declared for the draft. He was a 6'7 guard overseas. He had to finish growing and learn his new body. Niko was very raw, he wasn't someone that perfected his game before he declared for the draft. He was still learning to be a 6'7 guard.

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the only thing that i do care is that if he stays on the team that he will play much better than last season but based on what i saw from jaime and am doubtful and within reason

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Herro is going to cry if we draft this kid. Peep out Patrick in the front row. Clifford is honestly the prototype two way two guard that’s desperately needed behind Herro. Just curious how he’ll take us drafting a potential successor.

Hopefully it doesn’t lead him to get mad and demand a trade!!

[lastb1ckman]

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Herro is going to cry if we draft this kid. Peep out Patrick in the front row. Clifford is honestly the prototype two way two guard that’s desperately needed behind Herro. Just curious how he’ll take us drafting a potential successor.

Nique Clifford ain't a Herro successor lol. Hes a 23 years old super senior. If he had that potential he would've been out of college 3-4 years ago. Clifford is good glue guy for a contender, not a potential all star. Especially since his 3 has been up and down his entire career and FT% isn't that good either.

[Vertical Limit]

New York finally beat Indiana… Indiana Fever that is, the Fever choked a 12 point 4th quarter lead.

[Hallstar]

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Herro is going to cry if we draft this kid. Peep out Patrick in the front row. Clifford is honestly the prototype two way two guard that’s desperately needed behind Herro. Just curious how he’ll take us drafting a potential successor.

lol, how many undrafted and 2nd round guards has Herro seen the last 6 years? I kid but dude's not a Herro replacement

[Lennyzinho]

Well you have to understand Niko grew 2 to 3 inches after he declared for the draft. He was a 6'7 guard overseas. He had to finish growing and learn his new body. Niko was very raw, he wasn't someone that perfected his game before he declared for the draft. He was still learning to be a 6'7 guard.

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the only thing that i do care is that if he stays on the team that he will play much better than last season but based on what i saw from jaime and am doubtful and within reason

Jovic was drafted at 18 and was 6-11 (in shoes) and 223 at the NBA combine. He played in 15 games his rookie season, not surprising for an 19 yo rook picked 27th. He had a solid 2nd year at 20 and was playing well this past season at 21 before he broke his hand. The teams depth and chemistry was noticeable without him. He will play this next season and when it is over, he will still be 22.

Jaime Jaquez was a four year college player and was a 23 year old rookie. Everyone knows when you draft an old rookie like JJJ, you're probably drafting high floor low ceiling, cheap rotation player.

I wouldn't compare the two or their development trajectories in the slightest. Not to mention their tools and size and potential are also very different.

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Herro is going to cry if we draft this kid. Peep out Patrick in the front row. Clifford is honestly the prototype two way two guard that’s desperately needed behind Herro. Just curious how he’ll take us drafting a potential successor.

lol, how many undrafted and 2nd round guards has Herro seen the last 6 years? I kid but dude's not a Herro replacement

It's the board tradition, where we circle jerk with trade ideas to ship Herro out. One of these years Riley will retire and our dreams will come true

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Herro is going to cry if we draft this kid. Peep out Patrick in the front row. Clifford is honestly the prototype two way two guard that’s desperately needed behind Herro. Just curious how he’ll take us drafting a potential successor.

lol, how many undrafted and 2nd round guards has Herro seen the last 6 years? I kid but dude's not a Herro replacement

It's the board tradition, where we circle jerk with trade ideas to ship Herro out. One of these years Riley will retire and our dreams will come true

All i said was Herro has never had any real competition behind him and especially a young guard who they might draft and some got all in a tizzy that said guard might push him. With Herro’s contract extension coming up it’s just human nature if we invest a draft resource at his position that he might feel some way about it. Especially if we delay his extension and said drafted guard starts to exceed expectations.

[twix2500]

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the only thing that i do care is that if he stays on the team that he will play much better than last season but based on what i saw from jaime and am doubtful and within reason

Jovic was drafted at 18 and was 6-11 (in shoes) and 223 at the NBA combine. He played in 15 games his rookie season, not surprising for an 19 yo rook picked 27th. He had a solid 2nd year at 20 and was playing well this past season at 21 before he broke his hand. The teams depth and chemistry was noticeable without him. He will play this next season and when it is over, he will still be 22.

Jaime Jaquez was a four year college player and was a 23 year old rookie. Everyone knows when you draft an old rookie like JJJ, you're probably drafting high floor low ceiling, cheap rotation player.

I wouldn't compare the two or their development trajectories in the slightest. Not to mention their tools and size and potential are also very different.

I wish you all will stop that. A player being a 4 yr senior doesn’t represent his ceiling. It means you have less unknown.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

lol, how many undrafted and 2nd round guards has Herro seen the last 6 years? I kid but dude's not a Herro replacement

It's the board tradition, where we circle jerk with trade ideas to ship Herro out. One of these years Riley will retire and our dreams will come true

All i said was Herro has never had any real competition behind him and especially a young guard who they might draft and some got all in a tizzy that said guard might push him. With Herro’s contract extension coming up it’s just human nature if we invest a draft resource at his position that he might feel some way about it. Especially if we delay his extension and said drafted guard starts to exceed expectations.

Can’t mention White Drip like that!!

[twix2500]

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[Kobewade11]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

[marson]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

2:50 Prime Shaq would destroy everyone in this era lol Made it look easy against Zo

[Beenie]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

2:50 Prime Shaq would destroy everyone in this era lol Made it look easy against Zo

He catches that deep then its a wrap.

Need to have elite ball denying pressure by the on-ball defender and if that fails, gotta foul shaq immediately on the floor.

Itd be a rough painful night but there were ways to neutralize him.

[unowen85]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

2:50 Prime Shaq would destroy everyone in this era lol Made it look easy against Zo

Bam would bottle up Prime Shaq.

[Heat3]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

2:50 Prime Shaq would destroy everyone in this era lol Made it look easy against Zo

Bam would bottle up Prime Shaq.

More like Bam would be handing Prime Shaq bottles of Gatorade on the bench. Bam would be like KG. In at PF and hiding from the monsters playing C.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Throwback of two titans. Who would have thought in real time they’d be teammates one day

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On another note, I see some parallels (in terms of ceiling) between that Timmy/Zo build and where we are currently. Although the former were far better regular season performers, 5 consecutive top 3 finishes and could never get over the hump.

2:50 Prime Shaq would destroy everyone in this era lol Made it look easy against Zo

Bam would bottle up Prime Shaq.

And if he can’t Herro DEFINITELY would

[DayofMourning]

I remember that one game Zo tried to bully ball Shaq and Shaq blocked him like 4 times in a row. Smh....