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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#701 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 26, 2025 2:39 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:It would be the greatest Knicks moment this century if we come back to win the series from 2-0 on the road and throw the choke sign back to Reggie and Hali

Would be, the the Knicks players aren't classless clowns.


Yea, can't see the Knicks doing that, rightfully so.
Metaphorically can imagine it though
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Post#702 » by rajajackal » Mon May 26, 2025 2:41 pm

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OG missed a big boxout of Siakam earlier in the series. Good to see him locked in on that which then allows Hart to be an absolute maniac with no regard for his own health to get the board :lol:

somebody at my bar was wincing like "ooo that's reckless he shouldn't do that" after he landed :roll:

i was like SEASON ON THE LINE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO **** YOU MEAN :banghead:

all in good fun, they tipped well, i basically hold court whenever there's a knick playoff game on the bar television lol
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#703 » by Worst_to_First » Mon May 26, 2025 2:41 pm

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That pecking order has to be adjusted at least for the first 3.5 quarters. The sooner we get KAT going, the better shot we have of winning the game. I can sense that KAT scoring is more physically and psychologically damaging to the opponent.

That being said, I am hoping JB gets to figure out the Pacers’ defense and soon. Rick Carlisle has made him nearly unplayable this series. Need him to be a lot more efficient on offense, whether scoring or distributing, to make up for his lack of defense.


This is how you know a dude has blinders against Brunson.

Brunson had a bad game in game 3. In game 1, he was 15-25 for 43 points. In game 2, 13-27 for 36 points. The fact is, the team was letting him down in both games.

Your boy needs to do a shyt-ton more work to make up for his lack of defense, and to stop playing like a ****y. He's too used to Brunson carrying his 50 million dollar a year ass during the first two playoff series.


In game 1 he still picked up 5 bad fouls and we built the lead with him on the bench and commenced the choke when he came back. Towns was a +9 and Brunson was a -8. So he’s been better 2/3 games. Everyone got possessed with the -20 for game 2 and ignore when he’s positive in 1 and 3. Like when towns had the highest plus minus of any player on the team throughout the season. If we want to talk defense Brunson is 10x worse defender than even towns and Chanel is on the way with the impact metrics to prove it. Tell em ChannyB


Sorry I am late here but thanks for the reply Rob. No need for me to say more about this matter. Game. Set. Match.

That being said I really want the JB and KAT pairing to work out. They just have to be a lot more in sync offensively to offset the defensive shortcomings they have, especially as a tandem. KAT has long accepted JB as his captain and alpha of the team. It is in JB’s court to make this work out.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#704 » by Gravy » Mon May 26, 2025 2:41 pm

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Gravy wrote:KAT's inconsistency is who he is at this point. He could go back to being invisible in game 4 or have another good performance. The effort is not always there.

Brunson always gives you full effort, but his shot may be off some nights.


He’s inconsistent but his touches are also inconsistent it’s not effort situation he just often isn’t fully utilized. Most of his attempts seem to happen when he’s playing with bench lineups he’s not even touching the ball in first quarters

Both are true, he can get the ball more and there are times he looks like he does not want the ball.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#705 » by robillionaire » Mon May 26, 2025 2:41 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:There's an obvious defensive issue with KAT and Brunson in together. We can mitigate this with Mitch at C over Hart and staggering them as much as possible.

But yea, we def need both offensively and they are both great players. Mix and match.

It’s a short term solution to a very big problem but if it gets us through this series I am more than ok with it.


It’s a problem that can be worked around. I don’t think it makes winning impossible. I mean we had a very good season and we’re 3 wins away from the finals notwithstanding. We should be up 2-1. We shouldn’t overlook the successes we’ve had even though we do have some weaknesses. This just happens to be a matchup that can maybe exploit it a little better than other teams can and they gotta figure it out quick. I like our team
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#706 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 26, 2025 2:42 pm

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i don't know. he didn't get the ball in position to score or anything. he shot 3s and drove from the top of the key. the regular stuff he does.

I didn't see anything special in the way he was fed the ball. He was just #1 on the pecking order with Brunson on the bench, and I think there was an expectation that he would carry the offense in Brunson's absence. The shotmaking was exceptional.


But they spam fed him on a heater. Brunson doesn't do that.

How many GTs are we like "keep feeding the KAT!" Yesterday, we did.


It was simple, but Deuce did make an effort to get KAT the ball. So much of our offense is giving the ball to someone late in the shot clock to go iso. Usually it's Brunson. KAT really shinned during that stretch. He was obviously the #1 in that lineup, where usually it's Brunson. Always stagger them.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#707 » by Fury » Mon May 26, 2025 2:42 pm

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Same. We had to win on the road 5 on 8 and somehow they did it

btw it was hard to track without game audio but how did the pacers win that out of bounds challenge? on replay it looked like the ball went nowhere near og's hands


I had it muted myself so idk. I guess they were trying to say the pacers player didn’t touch it but someone else will have to chime in

Even Reggie fing Miller disagreed with them overturning the towns and 1 when Haliburton foiled him first for his 3rd foul that took him out of the game in the 2nd quarter and the Brunson 5th foul was an obvious shove off. Among many, many other things. But whatever it’s in the books

I still think OG got fouled on that shot in game 1


Yeah, Neismeth pulled his hand away. But as my bro astutely pointed out, it wasted their last challenge.

The Knicks get **** over by these foul calls that hurt our stars a lot. It’s the reason they go down. But the end to that second quarter was low key the biggest part of the game. The way we closed was important to the win.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#708 » by robillionaire » Mon May 26, 2025 2:45 pm

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Gravy wrote:KAT's inconsistency is who he is at this point. He could go back to being invisible in game 4 or have another good performance. The effort is not always there.

Brunson always gives you full effort, but his shot may be off some nights.


He’s inconsistent but his touches are also inconsistent it’s not effort situation he just often isn’t fully utilized. Most of his attempts seem to happen when he’s playing with bench lineups he’s not even touching the ball in first quarters

Both are true, he can get the ball more and there are times he looks like he does not want the ball.


Yeah he could try to demand it more I guess. We need to figure out how to score early in the first quarters. I’m not sure why we keep having these slow offensive starts. Maybe they do need to involve towns early and often but they seem more content limiting his minutes in the first and saving him for later. Maybe to keep him from fouling early. Mikal needs to make some 3s for christsake someone else needs to step up.
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Post#709 » by HerSports85 » Mon May 26, 2025 2:49 pm

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Post#710 » by Worst_to_First » Mon May 26, 2025 2:50 pm

robillionaire wrote:I kinda wonder how far a 20 point road comeback win like this goes to restoring the confidence that was lost in game 1


We needed an emotionally damaging win to make up for Game 1. This felt more satisfying than blowing them out, at least for Game 3.

Cavs had that meltdown in Game 2 in that semis. They blew the Pacers out in Game 3 but I felt it was not enough to make up for that heartbreaking defeat in Game 2. Indy still had control over the series and it showed.

I think our Game 1 loss is still more frustrating to be honest than this Game 3 is for the Pacers. However it is a step in the right direction. Challenge now is if we can pull it off a Game 4 win. I will not keep my hopes that high up as Carlisle is a very good coach and a champion.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#711 » by Knickkilla » Mon May 26, 2025 2:51 pm

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/E3R3xqOR4oc

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#712 » by Montmorencie » Mon May 26, 2025 2:52 pm

Why is it so hard for big men to pull a three off the dribble? I mean even the best in the business, KAT, Jokic, Turner rarely do it. I just don't see it being mechanically harder than catch and shoot three??
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Post#713 » by robillionaire » Mon May 26, 2025 2:54 pm

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robillionaire wrote:I kinda wonder how far a 20 point road comeback win like this goes to restoring the confidence that was lost in game 1


We needed an emotionally damaging win to make up for Game 1. This felt more satisfying than blowing them out, at least for Game 3.

Cavs had that meltdown in Game 2 in that semis. They blew the Pacers out in Game 3 but I felt it was not enough to make up for that heartbreaking defeat in Game 2. Indy still had control over the series and it showed.

I think our Game 1 loss is still more frustrating to be honest than this Game 3 is for the Pacers. However it is a step in the right direction. Challenge now is if we can pull it off a Game 4 win. I will not keep my hopes that high up as Carlisle is a very good coach and a champion.


I mostly agree but I think maybe our comeback from down 20 is more meaningful than a blowout. Boston blew us out in game 3 too but it didn’t make up for their two chokes in games 1 and 2. Having your back against the wall like that builds character and I think it really puts some pressure back on Indiana for game 4 knowing they could have had the series won everything was going their way and they let us off the hook. So yeah win game 4 somehow someway
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#714 » by rajajackal » Mon May 26, 2025 2:56 pm

Knickkilla wrote:https://m.youtube.com/shorts/E3R3xqOR4oc

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whenever the knicks remember this is supposed to be their identity under this coach their offense magically starts clicking as well. funny how that goes
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#715 » by Worst_to_First » Mon May 26, 2025 3:01 pm

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Gravy wrote:KAT's inconsistency is who he is at this point. He could go back to being invisible in game 4 or have another good performance. The effort is not always there.

Brunson always gives you full effort, but his shot may be off some nights.


He’s inconsistent but his touches are also inconsistent it’s not effort situation he just often isn’t fully utilized. Most of his attempts seem to happen when he’s playing with bench lineups he’s not even touching the ball in first quarters


KAT should be averaging around 19 attempts a game. Shot distribution between JB and KAT should mirror what JB and Ju had in that 2022-23 season.
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Post#716 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon May 26, 2025 3:04 pm

I loved that KAT had a game like this on Dominican Mother's Day.
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Post#717 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon May 26, 2025 3:08 pm

Hicks choking a 20 point lead at home up 2-0 in Game 3 is almost as bad as our choke job in Game 1.
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Post#718 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon May 26, 2025 3:10 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Portnoy was talking **** when they Knicks were down 20. :lol:

F that guy


Was the game thread the same when we got down 20? :lol:

I'm going to start calling to all those who give up and quit and cry about it as Portnoy's.
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Post#719 » by BKlutch » Mon May 26, 2025 3:11 pm

KnixinSix wrote:This IS FINALLY the type of rotation we were waiting for from Thibs. No Brunson and KAT together unless Mitch was in. DELON and Shamet over Payne. Finally, finally, finally some smarter rotations and player utilization based on the matchup.

You need to get this post to the Knicks. I'm afraid that by the next game, Thibs will have forgotten it all...
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#720 » by BKlutch » Mon May 26, 2025 3:13 pm

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K_ick_God wrote:What KAT did ignited the whole team

And to be honest, and no hate at JB, but if he doesn’t leave the game, I don’t think it happens

Thibs really needs to go, don’t care about the results anymore


Thibs showed blatant favoritism by benching KAT in Game 2. If he did the same for JB in Game 1, we would have been up 2-1.

But what is done is done. It is just ironic that the guy whom Thibs hung out to dry two days ago was the very one who saved him today. KAT put the team on his shoulders while Deuce, Delon and Landry helped push him up the stairs.

It is sad to think that this may be too late. Carlisle is too smart to lose consecutive games to an inferior coach. Quite unfortunate as I think Delon and Landry would have helped us in the Finals, especially against OKC.


Yeah this next game is gonna be hard. They’ll probably do something new at KAT and he’ll be unready for it bc Tom doesn’t think ahead.

OG is back for me. But Tom and Mikal are permanent members of my list.

How can you say that? He's aready got this figured out. If they find a way to stop KAT, he's subbing in Payne!
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