2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wonder what it would take to get Mathurin, he’s a top 3 talent on the Pacers maybe 2nd but just doesn’t seem to mesh with Carlisle.

[Flash4thewin]

The Spurs getting KD make a lot of sense and they are competent to make it work. KD probably loves the idea of playing for the Spurs being a second option.

For us the Spurs getting KD is a blessing. No way the Sun trade him for our undesirable package, that’s being polite. To get KD will honestly cost us something of real tangible value, Ware. I’m sure Pat knows Bam is best at center not at power forward. Bam, KD, Wiggins and Herro should easily make it to the second round in the east. At the end of the day Pat will do what he can to win before he voluntarily or involuntarily steps down.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Vassell/Johnson are included purely for salary-matching purposes, there's no need for all three players. A deal could also work with just Vassell and Barnes, depending on who the Suns prefer. Honestly, the 14th pick alone this year is already more valuable for the Suns.

Why in the world are the Spurs trading a 24 year old Vassell and the 14th pick for a 37 year old Durant? Makes no damn sense on there timeline. If they were trying to flip that as part of a Giannis package i get. Not Durant.

Funny how the 'Kevin Durant is old' card always gets pulled out when it's another team involved

But seriously, why on earth would we give up a 21-year-old Jovic still not in his prime for a 37-year-old Durant?" Make no damn sense on our timeline.

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

[marson]

Why in the world are the Spurs trading a 24 year old Vassell and the 14th pick for a 37 year old Durant? Makes no damn sense on there timeline. If they were trying to flip that as part of a Giannis package i get. Not Durant.

Funny how the 'Kevin Durant is old' card always gets pulled out when it's another team involved

But seriously, why on earth would we give up a 21-year-old Jovic still not in his prime for a 37-year-old Durant?" Make no damn sense on our timeline.

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

Trading for Giannis would cost them the No. 2 pick, and I don't think the Spurs are reckless enough to give up a potential future star.

Pursuing KD is a safer bet they can keep their core and young players intact while adding a veteran who can contribute until he eventually retires.

I trust Shams' sources on this, and if there's mutual interest between KD and the Spurs, it's definitely something that could be revisited this offseason.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Funny how the 'Kevin Durant is old' card always gets pulled out when it's another team involved

But seriously, why on earth would we give up a 21-year-old Jovic still not in his prime for a 37-year-old Durant?" Make no damn sense on our timeline.

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

Trading for Giannis would cost them the No. 2 pick, and I don't think the Spurs are reckless enough to give up a potential future star.

Pursuing KD is a safer bet they can keep their core and young players intact while adding a veteran who can contribute until he eventually retires.

I trust Shams' sources on this, and if there's mutual interest between KD and the Spurs, it's definitely something that could be revisited this offseason.

Yeah just curious if Vassell, Johnson, and 14th is a bit of an overpay for them for the short window of Durant on just a one year deal. Do they plan on extending him for the max? Why do the Suns want Vassell’s long term deal when they have Booker in the same position? Not even mentioning Beal and Grayson Allen. Honestly feel like Houston makes more sense with the pieces they have to offer the Suns.

[marson]

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

Trading for Giannis would cost them the No. 2 pick, and I don't think the Spurs are reckless enough to give up a potential future star.

Pursuing KD is a safer bet they can keep their core and young players intact while adding a veteran who can contribute until he eventually retires.

I trust Shams' sources on this, and if there's mutual interest between KD and the Spurs, it's definitely something that could be revisited this offseason.

Yeah just curious if Vassell, Johnson, and 14th is a bit of an overpay for them for the short window of Durant on just a one year deal. Do they plan on extending him for the max? Why do the Suns want Vassell’s long term deal when they have Booker in the same position? Not even mentioning Beal and Grayson Allen. Honestly feel like Houston makes more sense with the pieces they have to offer the Suns.

This won't be the Suns' only move for sure. Vassell and Barnes could step in as starters right away, while Allen would likely serve as a bench player.

With the 14th pick, they also have the option to draft a point guard like Nolan Traore in that range. They could keep Beal coming off the bench for a season and then decide whether to buy him out next year.

Richards
Barnes
Vassell
Booker
Traore

[ChicoHeat]

I've been following discussions since the bubble era and finally decided to join the conversation. There are plenty of interesting takes floating around, but I’m not sold on KD or Derozan. I'd prefer our front office to focus on younger players, like Zion Williamson.

[RexBoyWonder]

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This is great news since the favorite especially us rarely wins lol

getting Derzon (for what? we giving up assets for him?) would be the absolute death knell of any analytical fan fandom.

[HeatFanLifer]

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This is great news since the favorite especially us rarely wins lol

getting Derzon (for what? we giving up assets for him?) would be the absolute death knell of any analytical fan fandom.

Yoooo if the Heat got Verizon it would open up so many paths to better cell service at a cheaper price. Not sure how it would help the win column though.

[RexBoyWonder]

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Wait, Demar Derozan or…………?!?!

Lol if all this offseason comes to is a trade for derozan, ill finally get on the retire pat riley train.. even though ive pretty much said its time to move on right after the Butler trade..

Realtalk - it would one bridge too far for me.

Some front office moves fail - I get it. It's unavoidable.

But making moves that will 100% lead to nowhere - that I can't stand for.

Having a below average YOUNG AND IMPROVING team is one thing - but having a below average OLD team losing future assets while looking bad and boring - that chit can't happen.

[RexBoyWonder]

Wonder what it would take to get Mathurin, he’s a top 3 talent on the Pacers maybe 2nd but just doesn’t seem to mesh with Carlisle.

Targeted him, Sexton and Quentin Grimes at the top of the Wishlist.

All 3 are young, realistic, fit and won't cost a ton.

[3ballbomber]

Man i thought these Bam Vs Herro debates were stale in 2022.......


3 years later and here we are.

Because you admins allow fake fans to run around here w/ incessant, relentless Bam bias & Herro disrespect. So WTF do you think’s gone happen. Admins only have yourselves to blame for tolerating this bullsh*t this long. Same twit calling others stans when he’s the biggest damn stan here

It’s all about forum activity tho ain’t it admins, to the expense of quality posters.

[3ballbomber]

lol @ there being "Herro stans" on this board. Who posts every twitter/instagram update about Tyler, who brings him up in every post and glazes him and says he's a top 10 player in the league or untouchable? The only thing I see is a bunch of people who are lukewarm on him and think he might have the potential to eventually get it, and before this season, practically the entire board wanted him gone.

The projection is next level. There's 0 Herro stans on this board, and there's 1 Bam stan, and I don't even mean it in the pejorative sense because AirP was a Jimmy stan but still a quality poster. But have some self awareness.

The biggest stan & fan boy on here is obsessed w/ 2 things:

1. Glazing Bam incessantly & relentlessly
2. Criticising Herro to prove how much better Bam is.

Oh add a 3rd….

3. Bagging on Riley.


Rinse & repeat daily & you got a sh*t show on this forum. Clean this bs up ADMINS! Watch ‘em delete my posts now

[DayofMourning]

Funny how the 'Kevin Durant is old' card always gets pulled out when it's another team involved

But seriously, why on earth would we give up a 21-year-old Jovic still not in his prime for a 37-year-old Durant?" Make no damn sense on our timeline.

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

Trading for Giannis would cost them the No. 2 pick, and I don't think the Spurs are reckless enough to give up a potential future star.

Pursuing KD is a safer bet they can keep their core and young players intact while adding a veteran who can contribute until he eventually retires.

I trust Shams' sources on this, and if there's mutual interest between KD and the Spurs, it's definitely something that could be revisited this offseason.

Giannis is a legend in the NBA already and he sits at 30 years of age. Hes going to better than anybody available at 2 for the next several years. Hes on Fox's timeline as well. Hes a GREAT grab for #2 and whatever else.

I feel like once they went Fox, they planned on parlaying their picks into win now options. Take the offensive onus off of Wemby and let him focus on D. Fox and Giannis figure out the offense.

Its a great strategy.

[marson]

It’s because there assets are so much better then ours to make a bigger splash then settling for the older Durant. They have the assets to get a better longer term piece.

Trading for Giannis would cost them the No. 2 pick, and I don't think the Spurs are reckless enough to give up a potential future star.

Pursuing KD is a safer bet they can keep their core and young players intact while adding a veteran who can contribute until he eventually retires.

I trust Shams' sources on this, and if there's mutual interest between KD and the Spurs, it's definitely something that could be revisited this offseason.

Giannis is a legend in the NBA already and he sits at 30 years of age. Hes going to better than anybody available at 2 for the next several years. Hes on Fox's timeline as well. Hes a GREAT grab for #2 and whatever else.

I feel like once they went Fox, they planned on parlaying their picks into win now options. Take the offensive onus off of Wemby and let him focus on D. Fox and Giannis figure out the offense.

Its a great strategy.

I kind of agree. Historically, the Spurs are known for being very calculated with their moves, not really the splashy type. But if Giannis is interested and gives them the go-ahead, they should definitely make a move.

[marson]

Man i thought these Bam Vs Herro debates were stale in 2022.......


3 years later and here we are.

Because you admins allow fake fans to run around here w/ incessant, relentless Bam bias & Herro disrespect. So WTF do you think’s gone happen. Admins only have yourselves to blame for tolerating this bullsh*t this long. Same twit calling others stans when he’s the biggest damn stan here

It’s all about forum activity tho ain’t it admins, to the expense of quality posters.

Dude, you were gone for ages! I thought admins put you on ice. Glad to see you’re back.

[DayofMourning]

I kind of agree. Historically, the Spurs are known for being very calculated with their moves, not really the splashy type. But if Giannis is interested and gives them the go-ahead, they should definitely make a move.

When I look at Wemby, I also see a guy who has legendary length and a frail frame. Those guys historically havent held up well over time. Wemby is probly 7'7" with a blood clot diagnosis already. The Spurs might look at all that and decide they better go for broke while the gettings good.

[eddieheatfan]

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[3ballbomber]

Man i thought these Bam Vs Herro debates were stale in 2022.......


3 years later and here we are.

Because you admins allow fake fans to run around here w/ incessant, relentless Bam bias & Herro disrespect. So WTF do you think’s gone happen. Admins only have yourselves to blame for tolerating this bullsh*t this long. Same twit calling others stans when he’s the biggest damn stan here

It’s all about forum activity tho ain’t it admins, to the expense of quality posters.

Dude, you were gone for ages! I thought admins put you on ice. Glad to see you’re back.

Nah, for what? I support & back this team, players & organization minus bullsh*t. I’ve just been sick of reading same bs on here daily. I see that bs is continuing to rub posters the wrong way. I ain’t the problem.

[batterybro42]

I kind of agree. Historically, the Spurs are known for being very calculated with their moves, not really the splashy type. But if Giannis is interested and gives them the go-ahead, they should definitely make a move.

When I look at Wemby, I also see a guy who has legendary length and a frail frame. Those guys historically havent held up well over time. Wemby is probly 7'7" with a blood clot diagnosis already. The Spurs might look at all that and decide they better go for broke while the gettings good.

I think the Spurs would be very stupid to blow up their growing team and asset rich situation before figuring out what Wemby can do moving forward. Blood clots with extremely tall people is no joke. I should not have to remind Heat fans of that. How many times were we reassured that with Bosh it was no big deal, and it ended up being career ending. If it happened once it can easily happen again. Lets say they go all in and dump their warchest on Giannis and then Wemby goes down again. What do they do then? Also they are breaking in a new Coach which in understanding how Pop works is likely some extreme DEI hire who is completely unqualified. The guy never played in the league, and has only been working as an assistant on mid Spurs teams since 2019. He very could flop massively as well. Spurs have a lot of risk on their end, they have time to be patient. I don't understand the need for them to try to rush this thing before they know what they have. I have however seen a bunch of teams do this type of thing lately, and almost every time is backfires because the organization does not have the infrastructure to handle it or bad luck strikes them.

They could easily be like the Thunder if they just stay the course, but they seemed determined to screw this up

This is how you end up a capped out team with no assets to improve by the time Wemby actually reaches his prime if he ever does