Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Redick07]

Everyone wants a “point guard” but keeps on obsessing over players like Simons/Sexton/Monk.

i just want a playmaking guard...

I know a lot of people hate this name being mentioned, but Trae will single handily transform this team (for the better).

I really think Trae will make us a real contender!

1. We can offer Hawks a good package such as: Black, Isaac, Jett, Cole, #16, 27, 29, 31 FRPs

2. Decline Harris, Houstan, CoJo, MoW. Re-sign MoW by 30m/3y (9m/10m/11m)

3. Sign NAW by full MLE

WCJ / Goga
Paolo / MoW / #46
Franz / TDS / Queen
Suggs / KCP / #25
Trae / NAW

Our cap hold is approximately 192m, still under the 1st apron (195m).

[Magic_Johnny12]

i just want a playmaking guard...

I know a lot of people hate this name being mentioned, but Trae will single handily transform this team (for the better).

I really think Trae will make us a real contender!

1. We can offer Hawks a good package such as: Black, Isaac, Jett, Cole, #16, 27, 29, 31 FRPs

2. Decline Harris, Houstan, CoJo, MoW. Re-sign MoW by 30m/3y (9m/10m/11m)

3. Sign NAW by full MLE

WCJ / Goga
Paolo / MoW / #25
Franz / TDS / #46
Suggs / KCP
Trae / NAW

Our cap hold is approximately 192m, still under the 1st apron (195m).

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

[mattdelray1220]

I know a lot of people hate this name being mentioned, but Trae will single handily transform this team (for the better).

AB Cole Jett JI 3(1sts) gets it done. Even i its Tristan instead of Jett... I may do it. It destroys our cap flexibility for a very long time but the fact that people say it's not possible is not true. Could be KCP or Wendell in it as well. Goga who knows. Lots of options to make it work. Atlanta can probably get a better offer as well.

If Suggs isn’t being offered Orlando would have to overwhelm them with a can’t refuse offer.

I’ve been a prominent KCP isn’t being moved voice, but for Trae you would absolutely have to consider it.

KCP
TDS or Howard
Cole Anthony
Anthony Black
#25
‘26 FRP (via WAS/PHX)
‘27 FRP (swap)

Sign both NAW and Gary Trent with the MLE
Decline/resign Joseph
Decline/resign Wagner
Accept QO for Houstan
Draft Cedric Coward w/ #15


Young/NAW/Joseph
Suggs/Trent/Coward
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/
Carter/Bitazde/*Wagner

Reevaluate next summer.

They would not take that many guards thats why I think its JI instead of KCP. Less money owed. But yes, could happen and would just force us to be thin on back ups and not be able to make moved for 2-3 years. Plus pay a ton in tax money.

[Kent]

I know a lot of people hate this name being mentioned, but Trae will single handily transform this team (for the better).

I really think Trae will make us a real contender!

1. We can offer Hawks a good package such as: Black, Isaac, Jett, Cole, #16, 27, 29, 31 FRPs

2. Decline Harris, Houstan, CoJo, MoW. Re-sign MoW by 30m/3y (9m/10m/11m)

3. Sign NAW by full MLE

WCJ / Goga
Paolo / MoW / #25
Franz / TDS / #46
Suggs / KCP
Trae / NAW

Our cap hold is approximately 192m, still under the 1st apron (195m).

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

[T-Cat]

Reed Sheppard? really? I would rather just use #25 on Clayton

We also get rid of WCJ contract.

Reed Sheppard has more overall upside than Clayton imo.

not sure. PG is his only position, 6'2 with 6'3 wingspan. wasnt even a starter in college. people wow at his high 3 pt % off the bench in 1 year at Kentucky. bad defender, will be overpowered a lot with his size and weight. below average athlete. I mean, i guess a better shooting TJ McConnell, but TJ has better instincts (which Reed could learn over time like TJ did). not a primary ball handler, mostly catch and shoot player.

i get the idea of getting off WCJ's deal. just seems moving the deck chairs type of trade

His pick and roll game is very underrated!

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[cedric76]

I really think Trae will make us a real contender!

1. We can offer Hawks a good package such as: Black, Isaac, Jett, Cole, #16, 27, 29, 31 FRPs

2. Decline Harris, Houstan, CoJo, MoW. Re-sign MoW by 30m/3y (9m/10m/11m)

3. Sign NAW by full MLE

WCJ / Goga
Paolo / MoW / #25
Franz / TDS / #46
Suggs / KCP
Trae / NAW

Our cap hold is approximately 192m, still under the 1st apron (195m).

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

Then we do have to break the team next season when p5 s contract quicks in.

Great 1 yr window, can I call it short sighted?

[mattdelray1220]

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

Then we do have to break the team next season when p5 s contract quicks in.

Great 1 yr window, can I call it short sighted?

Thats not really true. Would we have to find new homes for 2-3 guys to keep our new big 4, yes. Would we have to blow it up, no. It would be more like Caleb is now our back up SG and Goga is our starting center kind of moves. At this point, being a fan of the Magic for 25+ years.. I would suck for a decade straight if we won a ship. I may even even take that deal if we made it to the ECF again haha.

[Kent]

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

Then we do have to break the team next season when p5 s contract quicks in.

Great 1 yr window, can I call it short sighted?

Can't speak for the other guys but I forgot about that extension kicking in lol.

But hey. If we felt we had a great shot to get one title out of it, maybe you do it.

Still, that would be a pretty darn good team.

[Skybox]

For the record, I have near zero interest in Trae or Lamelo.

[yoyojw17]

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

Then we do have to break the team next season when p5 s contract quicks in.

Great 1 yr window, can I call it short sighted?

Yeah... that's a lot.... for someone that you'll have to eventually either let go cuz you can't afford him if he doesn't turn the needle enough... or make him the fattest contract Orlando has ever dished out... and at that point we better be sniffing at the doors of championship by next season.

Edit: Suggs will have to be part of the trade... sadly.

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[OrlandoDream]

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God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

[Airgordon00]

So with some of you bringing up the possibility of Trae again. If we were to go that route I think some moves like these could make us contenders immediately.

First move on draft night:
Magic in Trae Young.

Hawks in Ab, Dell, Isaac, 16th pick. 2027 top 3 protected first, 2029 top three protected first.

2nd move on draft night:

Magic in Malik Monk and Daniel Gafford.

Kings in Cole, Caleb Martin, 25th pick and 46th pick.

Mavs in KCP.

You go all in while Paolo is so cheap. You get players who can excel with Trae at PG. You get a stud 6th man to take control of the 2nd unit in monk. You get a rim running big in Gafford who would get a ton of lobs from Trae and Franz. Plus you could fill out the roster with ring chasing vets on minimum deals.

Starters:
Trae
Suggs
Franz
Paolo
Gafford

Bench:
Monk
Moe
Goga
TDS
Plus what ever Free agents fill out the team.

That seems like a legit title contender next year. Especially in a weakened East. Another thing to think about with all these really good players on the same team players stats usually take a hit because there’s only one ball. So you could see Paolo miss out on that super max which could save us money in the long term.

Thoughts?

[Blue_and_Whte]

I really think Trae will make us a real contender!

1. We can offer Hawks a good package such as: Black, Isaac, Jett, Cole, #16, 27, 29, 31 FRPs

2. Decline Harris, Houstan, CoJo, MoW. Re-sign MoW by 30m/3y (9m/10m/11m)

3. Sign NAW by full MLE

WCJ / Goga
Paolo / MoW / #25
Franz / TDS / #46
Suggs / KCP
Trae / NAW

Our cap hold is approximately 192m, still under the 1st apron (195m).

Yea, I think Trae is the most realistic “star” trade Orlando could pull off that makes sense on paper and longterm.

He only has 2 yrs left on his contract and is extension eligible this summer.

New management will have to make a hard decision soon if they want to pay him a lot of money or cut ties and cash in.

If I’m betting man Trae gets moved.

Let the record state that I'm not a Trae Young fan in terms of his character.

Okay, maybe that's too bold. But certainly it's questionable in times of extreme negative emotion. But take that with a grain of salt because I liked Steve Francis when we had him, and Charles Barkley is one of my favorites of all time, so forgive me if I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

But...

Assuming this trade works, and we stay under the 1st apron as suggested, this would be a relatively small price to pay for a certified, cold-blooded bucket getter who led the league in assists last season.

Plus we get to keep P5, Franz, Suggs and Mo?

As far as "risky" moves, this is the one I would sign for.

That’s some potential “GM of the year.” Type moves if we could pull that off.

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God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

I hope this isn’t Weltmans big win now move..

[cedric76]

Sooo many people on this board don't understand the new CBA, I d strongly recommend them to listen the front office show podcast by Keith smith, they d learn so much and stop posting shirt sighted trades

[GelbeWand09]

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Van Fleet was 29 when Houston got him. McCollum is 34 at the start of next season.

[jezzerinho]

I don't hate the CJ idea at all. I thought he was a year or 2 younger but even so he'd be a decent stopgap guy for a couple of years.

Unless we trade away one of the Big 3, it's about what we could expect in return. I'm not against a trade like that per se, but if you want to keep the core three and you're not taking a flyer on a guard that hasn't yet shown his full potential, CJ is a solid get. Can play both on and off the ball, isn't a horrible defender, has field vision, solid production as pnr initiator on decent volume...

He's an expiring, so you can get him cheap enough and rework his deal.

I don't hate it. I would hate if it was the only move tho.

[Skybox]

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God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

[Redick07]

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God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger