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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#21 » by FrozenLeafz » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:44 am

ItsDanger wrote:What were people watching? Siakam just didn't have it. Only Mathurin showed up in 4th. 25 turnovers and OKC bricked a ton of shots. Lucky they didn't win by 30.


He got owned by Chet and Caruso when he did have the ball a few times
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#22 » by mdenny » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:47 am

The Scotty cult grasping at talking points. Meanwhile....we have the worst high usage player in the entire league. On a losing team no less. Any player that is in contention for a top 40 or top 30 status.....they're raw numbers should go UP on a losing team. Not Scott Barneys.

But Siakam had a bad second half in game 7 of the finals after Haliburton was injured!

It's actually pathetic to see this thread. The scotty cult actually think this constitutes an "i told you so" moment.

Unspeakably trollish. But y'know....the trolls took over this board 4 years ago so it doesn't surprise me.

Please don't derail a thread to pursue an unrelated agenda. This is about Pascal, not Scottie.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#23 » by EastonEddy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:48 am

ItsDanger wrote:What were people watching? Siakam just didn't have it. Only Mathurin showed up in 4th. 25 turnovers and OKC bricked a ton of shots. Lucky they didn't win by 30.


What were you watching? Siakam was inexplicably benched for like 8 minutes in the second half which is when the game got out of control.

Carlisle decided to stick Pascal in a corner and spam TJ isos the rest of the time.

You cannot make an impact on the game offensively if the coach won't involve you. You cannot make an impact defensively if the your guards just keep committing TOs and letting OKC out on fast breaks. By the time they looked to get Pascal involved they were already well behind and the momentum was against them.

Siakam had a spectacular playoffs but today the Indy guards got wrecked by OKC and that was the story of the game.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#24 » by Tripod » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:01 am

mdenny wrote:The Scotty cult grasping at talking points. Meanwhile....we have the worst high usage player in the entire league. On a losing team no less. Any player that is in contention for a top 40 or top 30 status.....they're raw numbers should go UP on a losing team. Not Scott Barneys.

But Siakam had a bad second half in game 7 of the finals after Haliburton was injured!

It's actually pathetic to see this thread. The scotty cult actually think this constitutes an "i told you so" moment.

Unspeakably trollish. But y'know....the trolls took over this board 4 years ago so it doesn't surprise me.

My God do you have to turn everything into either:

Scotty cult or FVV love?

The irony is you are the biggest troll and can't see it.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#25 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:02 am

The Pacers are nothing without Hali. To the casual fan who only boxscore watches, they don't notice his impact.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#26 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:06 am

Not too shocked. Nearly 80% of his baskets are assisted. Once the fast paced tempo is gone, OKC can neutralize him from getting to his spots.
He averaged more in the finals in the 2019 year than this year lol.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#27 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:07 am

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JustLucky wrote:siakam played great defense and didn't get the ball. his +- was positive untill the end and pretty much team best. They also lost by like 20 so you can't really blame him. alot of poor attempts from haters tho. Ya maybe they win if he gets 45.

okc has elite defensive gaurds and pacers had no playmaker their best playmaker tore a acl and their second best has to gaurd sga all night

Definitely a big drop off going from Haliburton to Nembhard/Mcconnell running the offence. The ball just sticks in their hands more.


The disrespect Hali gets is wild. It reminds me of people who couldn't comprehend Lowry's impact on the Raptors.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#28 » by LJKO » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:11 am

When Pascal went from No.2 to No.1 option it was over for the Pacers lol
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#29 » by kalel123 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:12 am

That's what second options are. They don't necessarily bring it every game but they do enough to support the stars for enough games and that's what he's shown to be able to do. He's not why they lost anyhow. The game was over once Haliburton went down.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#30 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:16 am

kalel123 wrote:That's what second options are. They don't necessarily bring it every game but they do enough to support the stars for enough games and that's what he's shown to be able to do. He's not why they lost anyhow. The game was over once Haliburton went down.


A large contingent of our fanbase had convinced themselves that Siakam was the Pacers #1 option and best player.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#31 » by TGM » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:18 am

Raps in 4 wrote:The Pacers are nothing without Hali. To the casual fan who only boxscore watches, they don't notice his impact.


You build teams off the PG and C position. That’s why I keep saying IQ needs to go. You can have a ferrari exterior but running on a Buick engine.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#32 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:23 am

TGM wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:The Pacers are nothing without Hali. To the casual fan who only boxscore watches, they don't notice his impact.


You build teams off the PG and C position. That’s why I keep saying IQ needs to go. You can have a ferrari exterior but running on a Buick engine.


IQ is a good player. Plenty of teams have won titles without star PGs and Cs. You just need elite talent at any position, and we don't have that right now.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#33 » by mdenny » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:48 am

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mdenny wrote:The Scotty cult grasping at talking points. Meanwhile....we have the worst high usage player in the entire league. On a losing team no less. Any player that is in contention for a top 40 or top 30 status.....they're raw numbers should go UP on a losing team. Not Scott Barneys.

But Siakam had a bad second half in game 7 of the finals after Haliburton was injured!

It's actually pathetic to see this thread. The scotty cult actually think this constitutes an "i told you so" moment.

Unspeakably trollish. But y'know....the trolls took over this board 4 years ago so it doesn't surprise me.

My God do you have to turn everything into either:

Scotty cult or FVV love?

The irony is you are the biggest troll and can't see it.


The double standard is astonishing. Pascal can lead his team to game 7 of the finals and THIS constitutes a disappointing result worthy of criticism?

A whole faction of this board was dead wrong for 3 seasons....and they can't help themselves from this pathetic attempt to salvage their ridiculous takes that were dead-wrong for 3 years.

I guarantee you that there is not another team board on realgm criticizing pascal's performance in game 7 with a dedicated thread. Only this team board. Why is that?

Because a whole bunch of delusional Scott Barnes boosters have egg on their face and they know it. So they cling to whatever little victory they can salvage.

Imagine criticizing Scott Barnes for his performance in game 7 of the finals after he led his team to get there. If someone does that....you can call them a troll.

In order for your counter-claim to have validity.....we would have to see scotty make an all star game while critics are complaining about him stat-padding. Or watch Scott make an all nba team while critics say "he was being selfish".

So far all we've seen is Scott Barnes be a bad basketball player who doesn't even put up good numbers on a bad team. Noone has even had the chance to troll him yet.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#34 » by Scase » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:12 am

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ItsDanger wrote:What were people watching? Siakam just didn't have it. Only Mathurin showed up in 4th. 25 turnovers and OKC bricked a ton of shots. Lucky they didn't win by 30.


What were you watching? Siakam was inexplicably benched for like 8 minutes in the second half which is when the game got out of control.

Carlisle decided to stick Pascal in a corner and spam TJ isos the rest of the time.

You cannot make an impact on the game offensively if the coach won't involve you. You cannot make an impact defensively if the your guards just keep committing TOs and letting OKC out on fast breaks. By the time they looked to get Pascal involved they were already well behind and the momentum was against them.

Siakam had a spectacular playoffs but today the Indy guards got wrecked by OKC and that was the story of the game.

He shot an airball with Caruso doing nothing more than putting a hand up, he went 5-13 while TJ went 8-13. Maybe there's a reason that they weren't going to him.

I don't understand how people can be Raps fans and still not grasp that Siakam is not a primary option without a supporting player to take the majority of the defensive pressure off him. He is an opportunistic scorer, always has been, we've all known this for years. He has strengths, forcing ISOs is not one of them, and with Hali out they don't have someone to feed him high % chances.

How is any of this new to Raps fans.....

Also he played 37min, crazy thought, but maybe they sat him to give him a solid rest to play the rest of the game, what a concept right?
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#35 » by metafisical » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:41 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:I don’t want to hear about that Pascal trade ever again. Raptors moving on.


Naw, we are still going to hear it until he retires. People with obsessions will never let go.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#36 » by metafisical » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:43 am

LJKO wrote:When Pascal went from No.2 to No.1 option it was over for the Pacers lol


Don't tell that to the Siakim lovers on here. They still want him as the #1 option on our team!
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#37 » by gp2015 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:54 am

Pascal showed why he is a #2 option tonight.

He didn't get a lot of opportunities in the second half but even when he did, he couldn't get a good shot off.

He needs someone like Kawhi next to him.

This was always apparent to most Raptor fans.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#38 » by Tripod » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:15 am

mdenny wrote:
Tripod wrote:
mdenny wrote:The Scotty cult grasping at talking points. Meanwhile....we have the worst high usage player in the entire league. On a losing team no less. Any player that is in contention for a top 40 or top 30 status.....they're raw numbers should go UP on a losing team. Not Scott Barneys.

But Siakam had a bad second half in game 7 of the finals after Haliburton was injured!

It's actually pathetic to see this thread. The scotty cult actually think this constitutes an "i told you so" moment.

Unspeakably trollish. But y'know....the trolls took over this board 4 years ago so it doesn't surprise me.

My God do you have to turn everything into either:

Scotty cult or FVV love?

The irony is you are the biggest troll and can't see it.


The double standard is astonishing. Pascal can lead his team to game 7 of the finals and THIS constitutes a disappointing result worthy of criticism?

A whole faction of this board was dead wrong for 3 seasons....and they can't help themselves from this pathetic attempt to salvage their ridiculous takes that were dead-wrong for 3 years.

I guarantee you that there is not another team board on realgm criticizing pascal's performance in game 7 with a dedicated thread. Only this team board. Why is that?

Because a whole bunch of delusional Scott Barnes boosters have egg on their face and they know it. So they cling to whatever little victory they can salvage.

Imagine criticizing Scott Barnes for his performance in game 7 of the finals after he led his team to get there. If someone does that....you can call them a troll.

In order for your counter-claim to have validity.....we would have to see scotty make an all star game while critics are complaining about him stat-padding. Or watch Scott make an all nba team while critics say "he was being selfish".

So far all we've seen is Scott Barnes be a bad basketball player who doesn't even put up good numbers on a bad team. Noone has even had the chance to troll him yet.

Again...why do you have to make any of this about Barnes? That's YOUR obsession with Barnes due to your LOVE of FVV.

Believe it or not, people are allowed to criticize Siakam without it having anything to do with Barnes. Christ all I said about Siakam was that he only had 7 FGA in the last 3 Quarters and he needed more shots. Not to rag on him, but to say he needed to be MORE of a focus on offense with Hali out.

So again, take your hate of Barnes and love of Fred and keep it out of so many threads needlessly where it doesn't belong. You spam so many threads with this Barnes cult BS it's exhausting.

Siakam is allowed to be criticized for only have 3 points in the 2nd half of the most important game of the year....for that reason and no other. Indy SHOULD have made him more a focal point of the offense and he SHOULD have demanded it. Instead a bench player and a guy on his rookie contract took the 1st and 2nd most shots...Siakam was 3rd.

Hell look at last 3 Q:
Siakam 2-7
Mathurin 5-10
TJ 8-11
Nembhard 3-8

That's not what you should expect from your #2 option in Siakam once your #1 goes down. Now a whole, once you zoom out, Siakam had a great playoffs overall.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#39 » by CPT » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:53 am

Yeah let’s start a thread to **** on Siakam when no player currently on the Raptors will ever play in a finals game. Good idea.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#40 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:14 am

Tripod wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Tripod wrote:My God do you have to turn everything into either:

Scotty cult or FVV love?

The irony is you are the biggest troll and can't see it.


The double standard is astonishing. Pascal can lead his team to game 7 of the finals and THIS constitutes a disappointing result worthy of criticism?

A whole faction of this board was dead wrong for 3 seasons....and they can't help themselves from this pathetic attempt to salvage their ridiculous takes that were dead-wrong for 3 years.

I guarantee you that there is not another team board on realgm criticizing pascal's performance in game 7 with a dedicated thread. Only this team board. Why is that?

Because a whole bunch of delusional Scott Barnes boosters have egg on their face and they know it. So they cling to whatever little victory they can salvage.

Imagine criticizing Scott Barnes for his performance in game 7 of the finals after he led his team to get there. If someone does that....you can call them a troll.

In order for your counter-claim to have validity.....we would have to see scotty make an all star game while critics are complaining about him stat-padding. Or watch Scott make an all nba team while critics say "he was being selfish".

So far all we've seen is Scott Barnes be a bad basketball player who doesn't even put up good numbers on a bad team. Noone has even had the chance to troll him yet.

Again...why do you have to make any of this about Barnes? That's YOUR obsession with Barnes due to your LOVE of FVV.

Believe it or not, people are allowed to criticize Siakam without it having anything to do with Barnes. Christ all I said about Siakam was that he only had 7 FGA in the last 3 Quarters and he needed more shots. Not to rag on him, but to say he needed to be MORE of a focus on offense with Hali out.

So again, take your hate of Barnes and love of Fred and keep it out of so many threads needlessly where it doesn't belong. You spam so many threads with this Barnes cult BS it's exhausting.

Siakam is allowed to be criticized for only have 3 points in the 2nd half of the most important game of the year....for that reason and no other. Indy SHOULD have made him more a focal point of the offense and he SHOULD have demanded it. Instead a bench player and a guy on his rookie contract took the 1st and 2nd most shots...Siakam was 3rd.

Hell look at last 3 Q:
Siakam 2-7
Mathurin 5-10
TJ 8-11
Nembhard 3-8

That's not what you should expect from your #2 option in Siakam once your #1 goes down. Now a whole, once you zoom out, Siakam had a great playoffs overall.


I don't think this is related to Barnes, but criticizing Siakam is weird when clearly he helps carrying his team to the finals.
This type of thread is horrible, and people watched it suggest otherwise as well. Just to point out Siakam is not the first option? In the final against the best team, can you really judge that in half a game? And even he isn't the first option, do you not want him in your team?

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