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Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25)

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Who will be the next coach of the New York Knicks?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:31 pm

Mike Brown
24
18%
Taylor Jenkins
42
32%
Johnnie Bryant
27
20%
Mike Malone
5
4%
James Borrego
7
5%
Mike Budenholzer
1
1%
Rick Brunson
4
3%
Jeff Van Gundy
6
5%
Jason Kidd
10
8%
Other
7
5%
 
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Post#881 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:33 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I don’t know much about Borrego. But in his last season as an nba head coach the Hornets had a winning record and he comes from the Popovich lineage.

I would be surprised if they took Borrego. It seems they want someone with experience coaching in the playoffs. If they were looking for an associate HC for either Jenkins or Brown he would be great though. Both of them could use another voice on that side since neither of them are known to be great X and O guys.


Brown had great X's and O's in Sacramento. His offense was one of the best in the league and had a ton of ball movement and creativity around Sabonis and Fox.
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Post#883 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:38 pm

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I'd prefer him over Borrego
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Post#884 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:45 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I don’t know much about Borrego. But in his last season as an nba head coach the Hornets had a winning record and he comes from the Popovich lineage.

I would be surprised if they took Borrego. It seems they want someone with experience coaching in the playoffs. If they were looking for an associate HC for either Jenkins or Brown he would be great though. Both of them could use another voice on that side since neither of them are known to be great X and O guys.


Brown had great X's and O's in Sacramento. His offense was one of the best in the league and had a ton of ball movement and creativity around Sabonis and Fox.


That is fair. Actually a quick google search of Borrego says his expertise is player development. Which would be a very good look for Brown. The Knicks got about 6 guys they would like to see contribute. Brown and Borrego are both Pop assistants so they in theory should at least be aware of each other.
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Post#885 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:47 pm

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I'd prefer him over Borrego

Lowkey sounds like they are looking for an associate head coach with an expertise in player development.
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Post#886 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:02 pm

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Lol. Agreed. For the record, I'm not a Borrego fan. He sucked in Charlotte imo


Rather interview someone like him than Frank vogul and Mike browns. Don’t really know a ton about him but He had them winning 43 games his last year there and they’re one of the worst run organizations in the league. Plus he’s not super old at 47. So I wouldn’t write him off just now.

Yea I rather take a shot at him than Mike brown


I could talk myself into there being some upside there as a coach that someone like Mike brown doesn’t have. Brown used up his surprise new wrinkle as a head coach in Sacramento.
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Post#887 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:07 pm

Who’s sweeney and why does he only have one name?
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Post#888 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:32 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Who’s sweeney and why does he only have one name?


Sean Sweeney is allegedly the real brain in Dallas.... Mavs fans are saying they rather Kidd leave as opposed to Sweeney
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Post#889 » by spree8 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:32 pm

I know it’s funny to laugh at and dismiss Brown, but when you dig a little deeper, he really doesn’t seem all that bad. I wouldn’t mind it if they gave him a shot provided we have a strong set of assistants with him. Borrego as associate is pretty intriguing honestly.

Brown has coached under Pop, Kerr, and Carlisle. By all accounts he’s a highly intelligent guy with high ball IQ and good character.

Looking at his resume…

He got 4th yr LeBron with zero help to the Finals in 07’ (with 50 wins). No shame in losing to his mentor Pop & Duncan.

Afterwards, the Big 3 Celtics formed, who knocked them out of the playoffs twice out of the next 3 yrs. In two of those years, Brown got LeBron and the bum Cavs to 66 & 61 wins.

His first year with the Lakers was successful record wise (0.621) but lost to a much younger and talented OKC team that also beat the Spurs and went on to the Finals.

The 2nd year in LA was tough considering the new additions of 38 yr old Nash and injured D.Howard joining a 34 yr old Kobe and 32 yr old Pau. He tried to implement a modified Princeton offense to help take pressure off of aging guys like Nash n Kobe, and the numbers showed it was actually producing top tier results on offense despite TOV’s (expected with new players and system), but their defense was really bad (likely due to aging and injured players). Record wise their start was rough and they canned him…

That being said, that doesn’t sound like some kind of career loser to me. Especially with what he did with that sorry SAC roster. Fox & Sabonis is worse than Brunson & Randle by far. Was he really supposed to win a title with that?
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Post#890 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:48 pm

spree8 wrote:I know it’s funny to laugh at and dismiss Brown, but when you dig a little deeper, he really doesn’t seem all that bad. I wouldn’t mind it if they gave him a shot provided we have a strong set of assistants with him. Borrego as associate is pretty intriguing honestly.

Brown has coached under Pop, Kerr, and Carlisle. By all accounts he’s a highly intelligent guy with high ball IQ and good character.

Looking at his resume…

He got 4th yr LeBron with zero help to the Finals in 07’ (with 50 wins). No shame in losing to his mentor Pop & Duncan.

Afterwards, the Big 3 Celtics formed, who knocked them out of the playoffs twice out of the next 3 yrs. In two of those years, Brown got LeBron and the bum Cavs to 66 & 61 wins.

His first year with the Lakers was successful record wise (0.621) but lost to a much younger and talented OKC team that also beat the Spurs and went on to the Finals.

The 2nd year in LA was tough considering the new additions of 38 yr old Nash and injured D.Howard joining a 34 yr old Kobe and 32 yr old Pau. He tried to implement a modified Princeton offense to help take pressure off of aging guys like Nash n Kobe, and the numbers showed it was actually producing top tier results on offense despite TOV’s (expected with new players and system), but their defense was really bad (likely due to aging and injured players). Record wise their start was rough and they canned him…

That being said, that doesn’t sound like some kind of career loser to me. Especially with what he did with that sorry SAC roster. Fox & Sabonis is worse than Brunson & Randle by far. Was he really supposed to win a title with that?


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Post#891 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:29 pm

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Who’s sweeney and why does he only have one name?


Sean Sweeney is allegedly the real brain in Dallas.... Mavs fans are saying they rather Kidd leave as opposed to Sweeney


Possible. Whats also possible is the reason Sweeney left may have to do with Dudley having the edge to be the HC if/when Kidd leaves. All speculation of courese but an interesting potential sub plot to consider.
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Post#892 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:32 pm

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spree8 wrote:I know it’s funny to laugh at and dismiss Brown, but when you dig a little deeper, he really doesn’t seem all that bad. I wouldn’t mind it if they gave him a shot provided we have a strong set of assistants with him. Borrego as associate is pretty intriguing honestly.

Brown has coached under Pop, Kerr, and Carlisle. By all accounts he’s a highly intelligent guy with high ball IQ and good character.

Looking at his resume…

He got 4th yr LeBron with zero help to the Finals in 07’ (with 50 wins). No shame in losing to his mentor Pop & Duncan.

Afterwards, the Big 3 Celtics formed, who knocked them out of the playoffs twice out of the next 3 yrs. In two of those years, Brown got LeBron and the bum Cavs to 66 & 61 wins.

His first year with the Lakers was successful record wise (0.621) but lost to a much younger and talented OKC team that also beat the Spurs and went on to the Finals.

The 2nd year in LA was tough considering the new additions of 38 yr old Nash and injured D.Howard joining a 34 yr old Kobe and 32 yr old Pau. He tried to implement a modified Princeton offense to help take pressure off of aging guys like Nash n Kobe, and the numbers showed it was actually producing top tier results on offense despite TOV’s (expected with new players and system), but their defense was really bad (likely due to aging and injured players). Record wise their start was rough and they canned him…

That being said, that doesn’t sound like some kind of career loser to me. Especially with what he did with that sorry SAC roster. Fox & Sabonis is worse than Brunson & Randle by far. Was he really supposed to win a title with that?


Good info and take


It is a good take indeed.

Mike Brown as I dig deeper on him really seems to be willing to think creatively to maximizes guys BOTH offensively and defensively. Some think he is an offensive mind only. It seems he is pretty good with defense too. Kings are much worse defensively than we are with Fox and Sabonis etc. He had them playing somewhat well defensively at times too.

He also typically starts things strong so that's a good indicator that we might have a good first year at minimum. I am firmly on the Brown wagon . I still like Kidd and if leads to Giannis then Ill take Kidd but Brown definitely over Jenkins at this point.
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Post#893 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:40 pm

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spree8 wrote:I know it’s funny to laugh at and dismiss Brown, but when you dig a little deeper, he really doesn’t seem all that bad. I wouldn’t mind it if they gave him a shot provided we have a strong set of assistants with him. Borrego as associate is pretty intriguing honestly.

Brown has coached under Pop, Kerr, and Carlisle. By all accounts he’s a highly intelligent guy with high ball IQ and good character.

Looking at his resume…

He got 4th yr LeBron with zero help to the Finals in 07’ (with 50 wins). No shame in losing to his mentor Pop & Duncan.

Afterwards, the Big 3 Celtics formed, who knocked them out of the playoffs twice out of the next 3 yrs. In two of those years, Brown got LeBron and the bum Cavs to 66 & 61 wins.

His first year with the Lakers was successful record wise (0.621) but lost to a much younger and talented OKC team that also beat the Spurs and went on to the Finals.

The 2nd year in LA was tough considering the new additions of 38 yr old Nash and injured D.Howard joining a 34 yr old Kobe and 32 yr old Pau. He tried to implement a modified Princeton offense to help take pressure off of aging guys like Nash n Kobe, and the numbers showed it was actually producing top tier results on offense despite TOV’s (expected with new players and system), but their defense was really bad (likely due to aging and injured players). Record wise their start was rough and they canned him…

That being said, that doesn’t sound like some kind of career loser to me. Especially with what he did with that sorry SAC roster. Fox & Sabonis is worse than Brunson & Randle by far. Was he really supposed to win a title with that?


Good info and take


It is a good take indeed.

Mike Brown as I dig deeper on him really seems to be willing to think creatively to maximizes guys BOTH offensively and defensively. Some think he is an offensive mind only. It seems he is pretty good with defense too. Kings are much worse defensively than we are with Fox and Sabonis etc. He had them playing somewhat well defensively at times too.

He also typically starts things strong so that's a good indicator that we might have a good first year at minimum. I am firmly on the Brown wagon . If Kidd leads to Giannis then Ill take Kidd but Brown definitely over Jenkins at this point.


Brown is a tough one to judge for me. He has had a lot of success(one losing season in 11 years) but, he also coached some of the best players EVER in that time. All I know about him is how good that Kings team played with a similar defensive issue we have. Sabonis/Fox are not better than Brunson/KAT on any level. I just don't know enough about him to really say one way or another if he's the guy or not.
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Post#894 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:45 pm

spree8 wrote:I know it’s funny to laugh at and dismiss Brown, but when you dig a little deeper, he really doesn’t seem all that bad. I wouldn’t mind it if they gave him a shot provided we have a strong set of assistants with him. Borrego as associate is pretty intriguing honestly.

Brown has coached under Pop, Kerr, and Carlisle. By all accounts he’s a highly intelligent guy with high ball IQ and good character.

Looking at his resume…

He got 4th yr LeBron with zero help to the Finals in 07’ (with 50 wins). No shame in losing to his mentor Pop & Duncan.

Afterwards, the Big 3 Celtics formed, who knocked them out of the playoffs twice out of the next 3 yrs. In two of those years, Brown got LeBron and the bum Cavs to 66 & 61 wins.

His first year with the Lakers was successful record wise (0.621) but lost to a much younger and talented OKC team that also beat the Spurs and went on to the Finals.

The 2nd year in LA was tough considering the new additions of 38 yr old Nash and injured D.Howard joining a 34 yr old Kobe and 32 yr old Pau. He tried to implement a modified Princeton offense to help take pressure off of aging guys like Nash n Kobe, and the numbers showed it was actually producing top tier results on offense despite TOV’s (expected with new players and system), but their defense was really bad (likely due to aging and injured players). Record wise their start was rough and they canned him…

That being said, that doesn’t sound like some kind of career loser to me. Especially with what he did with that sorry SAC roster. Fox & Sabonis is worse than Brunson & Randle by far. Was he really supposed to win a title with that?


Honestly his history with Lebron is what tainted his reputation that he wasn’t a good coach just that he had Lebron, but looking back those teams were pretty putrid outside of Lebron and the success they had is still notable.

Then LA happened and the way the Lakers fired him for D’antoni (who also struggled with that aging roster) added to his bad public reputation

The Kings job definitely have rehabilitated his reputation because that was another most bad roster and he got them to a good place.

He would definitely need an associate head coach, his X and O’s are respectable but the associate HC in Sacramento who got hired by the Nets helped a lot with their offense,
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Post#895 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:20 pm

I really can't get over how they only had two interviews in 3 weeks and, it is reported to be at least another week and no other interview is even etched in stone yet? The Borrego rumor is the only other name we have heard about.
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Post#896 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:07 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I really can't get over how they only had two interviews in 3 weeks and, it is reported to be at least another week and no other interview is even etched in stone yet? The Borrego rumor is the only other name we have heard about.


It's not a lot of guys available who you can look at their work and say "this guy is a good HC" and of that small amount, Malone had significant issues with his FO and Bud seems burned out.

I think the main criteria is they don't want someone learning on the job.
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Post#897 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:17 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I really can't get over how they only had two interviews in 3 weeks and, it is reported to be at least another week and no other interview is even etched in stone yet? The Borrego rumor is the only other name we have heard about.


It's not a lot of guys available who you can look at their work and say "this guy is a good HC" and of that small amount, Malone had significant issues with his FO and Bud seems burned out.

I think the main criteria is they don't want someone learning on the job.


I get it. I just think the captain of the ship should be a top priority.
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Post#898 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:46 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:I really can't get over how they only had two interviews in 3 weeks and, it is reported to be at least another week and no other interview is even etched in stone yet? The Borrego rumor is the only other name we have heard about.


It's not a lot of guys available who you can look at their work and say "this guy is a good HC" and of that small amount, Malone had significant issues with his FO and Bud seems burned out.

I think the main criteria is they don't want someone learning on the job.


I get it. I just think the captain of the ship should be a top priority.

I think the biggest fear from the FO is the next coach comes in and struggles and they take a step back. Whoever is hired is coming into a Finals/championship or bust situation AND the front office wants you then to run a rotation designed to improve players (and maybe build value) Thibs use to do that too. This year was just bad.
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Post#899 » by rajajackal » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:56 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I don’t know much about Borrego. But in his last season as an nba head coach the Hornets had a winning record and he comes from the Popovich lineage.

I would be surprised if they took Borrego. It seems they want someone with experience coaching in the playoffs. If they were looking for an associate HC for either Jenkins or Brown he would be great though. Both of them could use another voice on that side since neither of them are known to be great X and O guys.


Brown had great X's and O's in Sacramento. His offense was one of the best in the league and had a ton of ball movement and creativity around Sabonis and Fox.

yeah when i did my research on brown i realized a misconception about him is that because he's a player's coach kind of guy he's more about the rah rah than the nuts and bolts. he seems rah rah too, but learning about the sophistication of his offensive schemes put me at greater ease about his proximity to the job
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Post#900 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:00 pm

Considering the lack of elite options out there right now, Brown is not a bad choice. This is not David Fizdale or Herb Williams. 28 years experience, 2x COY, won 66 games, .600 career winning %, coached under Pop, coached Duncan, LeBum, Kobe, Curry and turned around the Kings. THE SACRAMENTO KINGS!

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