Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[winforlose]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to extend JJJ and re-sign Aldama

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.
16,17,22, and 31

We grab
Demin
Fleming
Reynaud/Kalkbrenner
A good player who fell out of the 1st round or the 2nd of Reynaud/Kalkbrenner

And in a couple years we have crazy length and young depth like OKC

Putting aside that Cole Anthony isn’t a starting caliber PG. He was traded from Memphis to Orlando as part of the Bane deal alongside KCP. They cannot add him.

[Domejandro]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to extend JJJ and re-sign Aldama

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.
16,17,22, and 31

We grab
Demin
Fleming
Reynaud/Kalkbrenner
A good player who fell out of the 1st round or the 2nd of Reynaud/Kalkbrenner

And in a couple years we have crazy length and young depth like OKC

Putting aside that Cole Anthony isn’t a starting caliber PG. He was traded from Memphis to Orlando as part of the Bane deal alongside KCP. They cannot add him.

Memphis can absolutely trade Cole Anthony, he just cannot be aggregated with other players for a couple months.

[winforlose]

Min IN: Cole Anthony, 16th pick, future 1st
MIN OUT: DDV

MEM OUT: Cole Anthony, 16th pick
MEM IN: Cap Space to extend JJJ and re-sign Aldama

3rd team in (Via TPE or MLE) DDV
3rd team out: future 1st round pick

Atlanta has a 25 mil TPE from Murray that expires July 7th.
Maybe they would take DDV for the 22nd pick

I just want to play 2k and grab all of the 1st round picks.
16,17,22, and 31

We grab
Demin
Fleming
Reynaud/Kalkbrenner
A good player who fell out of the 1st round or the 2nd of Reynaud/Kalkbrenner

And in a couple years we have crazy length and young depth like OKC

Putting aside that Cole Anthony isn’t a starting caliber PG. He was traded from Memphis to Orlando as part of the Bane deal alongside KCP. They cannot add him.

Memphis can absolutely trade Cole Anthony, he just cannot be aggregated with other players for a couple months.

You’re right my bad. Insomnia brain fart.

[minimus]

BRO OUT: Cameron Johnson, Whitehead, Lewis, 26th pick
BRO IN: Vucevic, DDV,

Why for BRO: get a tradeable assets

CHI OUT: Vucevic, Ball, Smith
CHI IN: Gobert, Whitehead, Lewis

Why for CHI: continues rebuild, maybe Giddey can run pick-n-rolls with Gobert like prime Ingles did

MIN OUT: Gobert, DDV
MIN IN: Johnson, Ball, Smith, 26th pick

Why for MIN: replace DDV with comparable shooter, but at SF/PF position, create room and roles for Dillingham, Clark, add backup/temporary solution at PG in Ball and Smith, get additional pick.

Re-sign both Reid and Randle, NAW. Draft Sorber, and Thiero at 26 and 31.

Smith/Reid/Sorber
Randle/Johnson/Thiero
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/???
Ball/Dilllngham/Conley

[Klomp]

We need ideas for starting quality PGs not named Lonzo ball. Lonzo ball is a 20 or 30 game per season player whose shot is far from consistent and his defense is not likely to hold up as his body wears down. Assuming we find this PG without giving up our core of Ant and Jaden, that leaves everyone else as trade bait. Also worth noting that if the NBA expands our team could have young prospects taken away. Assuming we can only protect 8, that is likely last years starters minus Mike. Then add Naz, DDV, (assume we lose NAW to free agency,) we probably finish by protecting Dilly and TSJ. I wouldn’t be surprised to lose Clark and maybe one of Minott or Miller.

The deeper you get in the playoffs, the ball will be in your star player's hands. I'm a believer that Shai, Jalen and Tyrese all have the ball in their hands the most because they are all star players for their teams, not because they are running the offense. TJ McConnell and Andrew Nembhard are fun stories, but they are effectively role players at the end of the day. That's what Lonzo Ball would be for us, which is just fine. I want to worry more about finding great players rather than being hyperfocused on finding great PGs.

[Klomp]

If you are looking for a big trade, look East. With Haliburton joining Tatum as likely out for the season, the East will be there for the taking. Orlando is already making its move, but will another team join them? Does Quin Snyder push to add his former all-NBA center? Does Miami or Detroit feel like they are one Julius Randle away from making a run?

[moretins]

If you are looking for a big trade, look East. With Haliburton joining Tatum as likely out for the season, the East will be there for the taking. Orlando is already making its move, but will another team join them? Does Quin Snyder push to add his former all-NBA center? Does Miami or Detroit feel like they are one Julius Randle away from making a run?

If we trade Julios, it shoud be for a better player, adding more pieces (DDV, Rob, Pick(s)). Y don’t see that in Miami or Detroit.

[minimus]

If you are looking for a big trade, look East. With Haliburton joining Tatum as likely out for the season, the East will be there for the taking. Orlando is already making its move, but will another team join them? Does Quin Snyder push to add his former all-NBA center? Does Miami or Detroit feel like they are one Julius Randle away from making a run?

Yeah, minus MIL, BOS and IND, NYK still have to find their HC. Maybe ATL will try to acquire Gobert, or DET will ask for Randle, Reid sign-and-trade?

[Klomp]

If we trade Julios, it shoud be for a better player, adding more pieces (DDV, Rob, Pick(s)). Y don’t see that in Miami or Detroit.

I'm not sure I see that anywhere, to be honest.

[Norseman79]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

[Slim Tubby]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I don't "hate" this at all and it's nice to see different ideas. Simons is similar to McCollum in that they are both skilled, inefficient offensive players that play zero defense.

It would be my preference to avoid adding salary for guys that don't play winning basketball.

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[Norseman79]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I don't "hate" this at all and it's nice to see different ideas. Simons is similar to McCollum in that they are both skilled, inefficient offensive players that play zero defense.

It would be my preference to avoid adding salary for guys that don't play winning basketball.

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I would actually think that next to Edwards and with Finch, Simons would come around a bit. Also think his defense is better than what Randles was when he came here and we see how that changed. Hard to be efficient on that Portland squad. Fair opinion though, it's a legit take.

[moretins]

I don't think I liked the last 20 trade proposals.

[moretins]

I don't think I liked the last 20 trade proposals.

and I don't know if I have expressed this well

[Slim Tubby]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I don't "hate" this at all and it's nice to see different ideas. Simons is similar to McCollum in that they are both skilled, inefficient offensive players that play zero defense.

It would be my preference to avoid adding salary for guys that don't play winning basketball.

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I would actually think that next to Edwards and with Finch, Simons would come around a bit. Also think his defense is better than what Randles was when he came here and we see how that changed. Hard to be efficient on that Portland squad. Fair opinion though, it's a legit take.

Your thought process of trying to upgrade our PG without creating another hole at C is exactly what I hope Connelly is attempting to do.

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[cmoss84]

Alright hear me out. It's summer school and the boredom is fierce. Milwaukee uses this year as a bridge year to contend AND rebuild. Get a haul for Giannis. Nets have a ton of picks, and decide to move a couple of them to sign Randle (they pick Julius over Beal). We give up everything we can to build around Ant/Jaden/Giannis, then monopolize free agency with a lot of freed up money and ring chasers (PG/PF/C).

Mil IN: Rudy, Naz (extend), DDV, RD, #17, #26, #27, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
Mil OUT: Giannis
RD (Lillard in '26)/DDV/Kuzma/Naz/Rudy
*Under 1st apron*

Nets IN: Randle and Minott
Nets OUT: #26 and #27
#8/#19/Cam Johnson/Randle/Claxton
*Under 1st apron*

MN IN: Giannis
MN OUT: Rudy, Randle, Naz, RD, DDV, Minott, #17, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
VET PG/Ant/Jaden/Giannis/Vet C
Mike/Clark/TSJ/FA/FA
Miller/Garza/FA/FA
*Under 1st apron*
($73m for 6 FA)

[shrink]

With perhaps 25 teams with playoff ambitions, I think Julius Randle’s has decent trade value, because of his play for the last third of the season, and being our best player for first two playoff series. Lots of teams will be looking to upgrade their win-now roster, so I think we could get some value by brokering a sign-and-trade.

And while Randle isn’t the perfect fit with his play here, he was definitely a talented player last year, and he has one, very big plus here .. he wants to be in Minnesota. That is not a given with anyone we’d trade him for.

[Ethomasp31]

Alright hear me out. It's summer school and the boredom is fierce. Milwaukee uses this year as a bridge year to contend AND rebuild. Get a haul for Giannis. Nets have a ton of picks, and decide to move a couple of them to sign Randle (they pick Julius over Beal). We give up everything we can to build around Ant/Jaden/Giannis, then monopolize free agency with a lot of freed up money and ring chasers (PG/PF/C).

Mil IN: Rudy, Naz (extend), DDV, RD, #17, #26, #27, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
Mil OUT: Giannis
RD (Lillard in '26)/DDV/Kuzma/Naz/Rudy
*Under 1st apron*

Nets IN: Randle and Minott
Nets OUT: #26 and #27
#8/#19/Cam Johnson/Randle/Claxton
*Under 1st apron*

MN IN: Giannis
MN OUT: Rudy, Randle, Naz, RD, DDV, Minott, #17, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
VET PG/Ant/Jaden/Giannis/Vet C
Mike/Clark/TSJ/FA/FA
Miller/Garza/FA/FA
*Under 1st apron*
($73m for 6 FA)

JMD is in the trade if we get Giannis

[shrink]

JMD is in the trade if we get Giannis

Sad, but true. In fact, we are probably one of the teams where MIL doesn’t ask for a team’s top guy.

[Loaf_of_bread]

I'd be all for extracting value out of Rudy, before he slowly declines.. but we need him unless we get another c back.

Maybe lively? 17 enough? Probably not.

How do we get value out of Julius? He is not a guy we want on the team long-term.

Our team is currently constructed poorly, and there isn't a simple 1 for 1 trade benefiting both sides to fix it.

I wouldn't mind connelly taking a risk, but at the same time.. it's a difficult decision. Don't want to run it back, but not convinced there may be any other option..