2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do?

[tester551]

Tossing a simple trade idea into the discussion.

RW3 for Grayson Allen.

Allen is a savvy vet SG. Adding him to the roster as a backup SG would depend on the direction Cronin takes in the draft, and off season trades. He may or may not fit.

For the Suns, after trading KD, they need a lot of big help. Allen will be behind a long list of overpaid SGs, and collecting dust on the bench. RW3s health could be worth the risk.

I would rather have dependable two way Allen @ $16 million rather then an overpaid Simons or Sharpe. But keep one for another season while our draft pick, Coward, settles into the starting SG slot. Trade either Simons or Sharpe for a second FRP in this draft.

Instead of having two overpaid SGs. We have one on a rookie contract, with a savvy vet on a reasonable contract. Opening cap space to re-sign our keeper core players.

I'd do this deal.

Allen is severely underrated as a player. He's not flashy - but he's a solid rotation player and a pro.

I would MUCH rather have Allen over any talk of Beal.

[zzaj]

Tossing a simple trade idea into the discussion.

RW3 for Grayson Allen.

Allen is a savvy vet SG. Adding him to the roster as a backup SG would depend on the direction Cronin takes in the draft, and off season trades. He may or may not fit.

For the Suns, after trading KD, they need a lot of big help. Allen will be behind a long list of overpaid SGs, and collecting dust on the bench. RW3s health could be worth the risk.

I would rather have dependable two way Allen @ $16 million rather then an overpaid Simons or Sharpe. But keep one for another season while our draft pick, Coward, settles into the starting SG slot. Trade either Simons or Sharpe for a second FRP in this draft.

Instead of having two overpaid SGs. We have one on a rookie contract, with a savvy vet on a reasonable contract. Opening cap space to re-sign our keeper core players.

I'd do this deal.

Allen is severely underrated as a player. He's not flashy - but he's a solid rotation player and a pro.

I would MUCH rather have Allen over any talk of Beal.

I think the days of getting anything of value back for RW3 are long gone. He's going into his 8th season and even with being very careful with him he only played in 20 games last season. I doubt any team is going to give up anything of real value for 20-30 games of a semi-healthy RWIII.

[dckingsfan]

Tossing a simple trade idea into the discussion.

RW3 for Grayson Allen.

Allen is a savvy vet SG. Adding him to the roster as a backup SG would depend on the direction Cronin takes in the draft, and off season trades. He may or may not fit.

For the Suns, after trading KD, they need a lot of big help. Allen will be behind a long list of overpaid SGs, and collecting dust on the bench. RW3s health could be worth the risk.

I would rather have dependable two way Allen @ $16 million rather then an overpaid Simons or Sharpe. But keep one for another season while our draft pick, Coward, settles into the starting SG slot. Trade either Simons or Sharpe for a second FRP in this draft.

Instead of having two overpaid SGs. We have one on a rookie contract, with a savvy vet on a reasonable contract. Opening cap space to re-sign our keeper core players.

I'd do this deal.

Allen is severely underrated as a player. He's not flashy - but he's a solid rotation player and a pro.

I would MUCH rather have Allen over any talk of Beal.

I think the days of getting anything of value back for RW3 are long gone. He's going into his 8th season and even with being very careful with him he only played in 20 games last season. I doubt any team is going to give up anything of real value for 20-30 games of a semi-healthy RWIII.

Agreed. His value is as a filler and an expiring. Phoenix might do this trade if they feel they can't move Beal or Green.

[tblazrdude]

Tossing a simple trade idea into the discussion.

RW3 for Grayson Allen.

Allen is a savvy vet SG. Adding him to the roster as a backup SG would depend on the direction Cronin takes in the draft, and off season trades. He may or may not fit.

For the Suns, after trading KD, they need a lot of big help. Allen will be behind a long list of overpaid SGs, and collecting dust on the bench. RW3s health could be worth the risk.

I would rather have dependable two way Allen @ $16 million rather then an overpaid Simons or Sharpe. But keep one for another season while our draft pick, Coward, settles into the starting SG slot. Trade either Simons or Sharpe for a second FRP in this draft.

Instead of having two overpaid SGs. We have one on a rookie contract, with a savvy vet on a reasonable contract. Opening cap space to re-sign our keeper core players.

I'd do this deal.

Allen is severely underrated as a player. He's not flashy - but he's a solid rotation player and a pro.

I would MUCH rather have Allen over any talk of Beal.

I think the days of getting anything of value back for RW3 are long gone. He's going into his 8th season and even with being very careful with him he only played in 20 games last season. I doubt any team is going to give up anything of real value for 20-30 games of a semi-healthy RWIII.

they could also just let him expire and not have to take on future money. #Bledsoe

[zzaj]

I'd do this deal.

Allen is severely underrated as a player. He's not flashy - but he's a solid rotation player and a pro.

I would MUCH rather have Allen over any talk of Beal.

I think the days of getting anything of value back for RW3 are long gone. He's going into his 8th season and even with being very careful with him he only played in 20 games last season. I doubt any team is going to give up anything of real value for 20-30 games of a semi-healthy RWIII.

they could also just let him expire and not have to take on future money. #Bledsoe

Yeah, if I were GM this is likely the route I would take...especially given there is a young big on the roster named Clingan who could use any positive vet, center leadership he can get.

I think it's more likely that Cronin will expect and try and extract a return on RW, though...probably ending up as a facilitator with RW acting as a bit of salary balast in return for a non-guaranteed second or two.

[Walton1one]

RW3 for Allen would be fine, but where is he going to find minutes?

Simons, Sharpe, Scoot, Thybulle not to mention the Camara, Avdija, Grant trio which often moves Camara to SG

Allen also has 3 years left on his deal at more money, so does POR get to swap 11/10 and pick up one of those 25 2nds for taking that extra salary?

[Norm2953]

Roughly 50 hours to go...

Are we going to see a lot of draft day trades as has been rumored and is Portland going to be making
moves?

[oldfishermen]

Trade idea from Andy Bailey, bleacher Reports.

NY trade Towns for Ayton, Thybulle, #11, and a future FRP.

? Would Towns be a good fit playing PF next to Clingan?

[Dame Lizard]

Trade idea from Andy Bailey, bleacher Reports.

NY trade Towns for Ayton, Thybulle, #11, and a future FRP.

? Would Towns be a good fit playing PF next to Clingan?

It's barely even worth considering imo. NYK made the ECF and it was their first year with this current unit. They'll run it back.

I'd do the trade from a value perspective, although it doesn't make sense for us to try to win now.

[BlazersBroncos]

Trade idea from Andy Bailey, bleacher Reports.

NY trade Towns for Ayton, Thybulle, #11, and a future FRP.

? Would Towns be a good fit playing PF next to Clingan?

It's barely even worth considering imo. NYK made the ECF and it was their first year with this current unit. They'll run it back.

I'd do the trade from a value perspective, although it doesn't make sense for us to try to win now.

That’s such a low cost for KAT that you just do it and figure out the direction later.

[DusterBuster]

Trade idea from Andy Bailey, bleacher Reports.

NY trade Towns for Ayton, Thybulle, #11, and a future FRP.

? Would Towns be a good fit playing PF next to Clingan?

It's barely even worth considering imo. NYK made the ECF and it was their first year with this current unit. They'll run it back.

I'd do the trade from a value perspective, although it doesn't make sense for us to try to win now.

Yeah, unless there was something behind the scenes we don’t know, I can’t imagine the Knicks not giving this core one more run… especially after the Pacers run. They have to feel they were right there and with better coaching and player management, they got a real path to the Finals (and no Hali next year)

[oldfishermen]

Trade idea from Andy Bailey, bleacher Reports.

NY trade Towns for Ayton, Thybulle, #11, and a future FRP.

? Would Towns be a good fit playing PF next to Clingan?

It's barely even worth considering imo. NYK made the ECF and it was their first year with this current unit. They'll run it back.

I'd do the trade from a value perspective, although it doesn't make sense for us to try to win now.

Yeah, unless there was something behind the scenes we don’t know, I can’t imagine the Knicks not giving this core one more run… especially after the Pacers run. They have to feel they were right there and with better coaching and player management, they got a real path to the Finals (and no Hali next year)

The theory given by Bailey to justify the KAT trade is the NYKs coaching change. Plus a report of a poor playoff performance by KAT.

My guess, Bailey needed to come up with a story.

[dckingsfan]

RW3 for Allen would be fine, but where is he going to find minutes?

Simons, Sharpe, Scoot, Thybulle not to mention the Camara, Avdija, Grant trio which often moves Camara to SG

Allen also has 3 years left on his deal at more money, so does POR get to swap 11/10 and pick up one of those 25 2nds for taking that extra salary?

Well, I think he is a far better shooter than any of the above. IMO, you can then move Simons, Sharpe or Thybulle with no consequences and have a nice cap situation the following year.

Scoot stays hopefully. Grant/Camara and Grant take the forward minutes.

Let me put it a different way. I hope that the following year, Simons, Sharpe and Thybulle are not with us unless they are on very friendly team deals. This helps that strategy.

[BlazersBroncos]

I like Grayson but see him a bit position locked at SG. He might be able to play as a quasi-PG as long as Deni is on the court I suppose, but its sorta risky. If he cant then your paying alot of money for someone to be a backup SG.

I suppose if PHX is looking to cut salary a RWIII for Grayson deal is too good to pass up. We would have to move Simons first IMO. If we are invested in win-now, which it seems the FO is, I could get down with adding vets like Grayson then a MLE deal to CP3. Hedge on the shaky but talented young guard duo with some proven vets.

Re Grayson, maybe it can be roped into a PDX deal -

PDX OUT - Simons + RWIII + Reath
PDX IN - Grayson + Nurkic + Okogie + 29

CHA OUT - Nurkic + Okogie + 33 + 34
CHA IN - Simons + 52

PHX OUT - Grayson + 29 + 52
PHX IN - RWIII + 33 + 34

Trade 11 for 15 + 24. Sign CP3 w/ the full MLE. Draft Coward + WCJ + best C avaliable at 29 (Maybe Wolf slips?)

G - Scoot Henderson / Chris Paul / Walter Clayton JR
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Grayson Allen / Josh Okogie
F - Toumani Camara / Matisse Thybulle / Cedric Coward
F - Deni Avdija / Jerami Grant / Kris Murray or Rayan Rupert
C - DeAndre Ayton / Donovan Clingan / Danny Wolf

[PDXKnight]

Wow Ant out! Idk what to think about jrue, better player bad contract

[Tim Lehrbach]

Say goodbye to our pick, probably. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Dame Lizard]

Say goodbye to our pick, probably. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Please no. It's the only thing we've been able to look forward to this season!

Cronin you surely can't resign Grant, and then trade #11 to hopefully make the play in.

I'd rather we trade #11 + 3 future firsts for a genuine young star, e.g. a Jalen Johnson from Atlanta. I don't think Atlanta would agree to that trade fyi, but just using it hypothetically.

[zzaj]

Wow. I guess I don’t understand the love affair with Holiday getting constantly repositioned in Portland.
I am honestly kind of amazed that Cronin traded Simons for that value—which seems pretty accurate to me.

That’s letting him go for basically nothing. Seems like a favor deal to Simons.

[Walton1one]

Have to believe this is like the Dame trade, saw more value flipping Jrue than dealing Simon’s in his own

Jrue should have higher value to playoff teams, then Simons would have two other teams clearly

At least that is the hope because the other alternative keeping in is mind-bogglingly stupid

[Walton1one]

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