2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[165bows]

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If that is true then it better be #2, #14, Vassell, and Keldon.

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good and aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure - just give us the key to the house and we will take anything and everything not named Victor we please or get lost.

[phincsfan]

What does Pritchard and Hauser get thêm in a trade?

Two guys who can combine for 25ppg and get paid 18mil combined the next 4 years is too good at this point for the C's to trade. They solidify the bench scoring and have experience.

[Gant]

Ryan Bernardoni‬
‪@dangercart.bsky.social‬

Here's why I've moved further towards the "get all the way out of the tax this season" position:

1. I didn't think they'd be able to clear that much of KP's money that quickly and so they're closer than I expected
2. I think Simons next deal will be bad, and we already have PP on a cheap deal

[The Corey's]

What does Pritchard and Hauser get thêm in a trade?

Two guys who can combine for 25ppg and get paid 18mil combined the next 4 years is too good at this point for the C's to trade. They solidify the bench scoring and have experience.

Let's see what their defense looks like now that they're going from role players to be expected heavy contributors.

I'm guessing without Jrue, KP, Horford and Tatum, they're about to be massively exposed.

[Fierce1]

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If that is true then it better be #2, #14, Vassell, and Keldon.

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good they aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure give us the key to the house and we will just take whatever we please or get lost.

Spurs need Castle.

I don't believe JB's going to be traded, but if it's to the Spurs, my package would be the most practical.

Vassell and Keldon will ensure we have depth at the wing position.

Getting Castle will cause a log jam at the Guard spot with White, PP, Simons, and Castle.

[phincsfan]

Rico and Neems need to play more and become worth their future options. Both capable but is this coaching staff the best to develop the young players the C's will have on the roster the next couple of years. JB, White, Simons, PP and Sam are developed and established. IMO, Joe did a good job with PP and Sam but they were already 26 years old when he got a hold of them as the HC. Can he handle a 20 year old lottery pick?

He better start liking rookies.

[phincsfan]

What does Pritchard and Hauser get thêm in a trade?

Two guys who can combine for 25ppg and get paid 18mil combined the next 4 years is too good at this point for the C's to trade. They solidify the bench scoring and have experience.

Let's see what their defense looks like now that they're going from role players to be expected heavy contributors.

I'm guessing without Jrue, KP, Horford and Tatum, they're about to be massively exposed.

100%, but from what I've seen these last few seasons they are absolute pros who will work on their weaknesses. I think Sam will be fine. PP's height will always be an issue but he can get better with his feet for sure.

[cl2117]

The timing of Brads deals getting under the 2nd apron are interesting.

He’s wasted zero time.

Early bird and all that. If this was the plan all along since we crashed out, I love that the attacked it right out the gate.

There's limited space around, the price very well could go up to dump guys and the wind could have changed for the worse for several reasons. Getting in there and getting the bulk of the cap work done early and at a great price makes a lot of sense.

Gives us plenty of time and keeps us flexible to keep making moves. Hope he's not done.

[165bows]

If that is true then it better be #2, #14, Vassell, and Keldon.

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good they aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure give us the key to the house and we will just take whatever we please or get lost.

Spurs need Castle.

I don't believe JB's going to be traded, but if it's to the Spurs, my package would be the most practical.

Vassell and Keldon will ensure we have depth at the wing position.

Getting Castle will cause a log jam at the Guard spot with White, PP, Simons, and Castle.

I see your point about the Spurs roster construction (in the video he mentions the big fit issue being the motivation the Sours have right now, ie, "Spurs wouldn't have made the Fox trade if they knew...")

However Vassell and Keldon are not good and are bad salary and have been *the key pieces* on one of the absolute worst teams in the league for multiple years. They are at or below zero value and the #2 pick and a pile of long shots isn't a good deal reflective of what Brad has done for years.

[Fierce1]

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good they aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure give us the key to the house and we will just take whatever we please or get lost.

Spurs need Castle.

I don't believe JB's going to be traded, but if it's to the Spurs, my package would be the most practical.

Vassell and Keldon will ensure we have depth at the wing position.

Getting Castle will cause a log jam at the Guard spot with White, PP, Simons, and Castle.

I see your point about the Spurs roster construction (in the video he mentions the big fit issue being the motivation the Sours have right now, ie, "Spurs wouldn't have made the Fox trade if they knew...")

However Vassell and Keldon are not good and are bad salary and have been *the key pieces* on one of the absolute worst teams in the league for multiple years. They are at or below zero value and the #2 pick and a pile of long shots isn't a good deal reflective of what Brad has done for years.

And like I said, I don't think JB will be traded because of reasons you cited.

But until now we're still getting JB is going to be traded posts.

[Fierce1]

If it's about a big man, why not take a chance on Mark Williams?

Trade Tillman for him.

[GrandTheftRondo]

We started a 29th pick in the draft all last yr

With how many years experience???

This is who we played when we lost to Miami tow years ago.
startersJayson Tatum
Al Horford
Marcus Smart
Derrick White
Jaylen Brown
Grant Williams
Sam Hauser
Mike Muscala
Luke Kornet
Robert Williams III
Malcolm Brogdon
Payton Pritchard

We were contenders then, favorites actually. came back from 3-0. If we resign Horford and Kornet and consider Simons a better or at least equal version of Brogdon, we have basically swapped Smart and Grant for a sixth man of the year and a league top 5 shooter. Plus whatever BS turns into and full draft capital available. That is a contending team, maybe not next year, but for years afterwards.

Will you guys stop throwing Horford in there like he’s 25 years old and guaranteed to be good in two seasons time.

It’s getting **** ridiculous.

[phincsfan]

With how many years experience???

This is who we played when we lost to Miami tow years ago.
startersJayson Tatum
Al Horford
Marcus Smart
Derrick White
Jaylen Brown
Grant Williams
Sam Hauser
Mike Muscala
Luke Kornet
Robert Williams III
Malcolm Brogdon
Payton Pritchard

We were contenders then, favorites actually. came back from 3-0. If we resign Horford and Kornet and consider Simons a better or at least equal version of Brogdon, we have basically swapped Smart and Grant for a sixth man of the year and a league top 5 shooter. Plus whatever BS turns into and full draft capital available. That is a contending team, maybe not next year, but for years afterwards.

Will you guys stop throwing Horford in there like he’s 25 years old and guaranteed to be good in two seasons time.

It’s getting **** ridiculous.

Horford will play next season, but not in Boston. I'm thinking NY.

[gammajamma]

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good they aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure give us the key to the house and we will just take whatever we please or get lost.

Spurs need Castle.

I don't believe JB's going to be traded, but if it's to the Spurs, my package would be the most practical.

Vassell and Keldon will ensure we have depth at the wing position.

Getting Castle will cause a log jam at the Guard spot with White, PP, Simons, and Castle.

I see your point about the Spurs roster construction (in the video he mentions the big fit issue being the motivation the Sours have right now, ie, "Spurs wouldn't have made the Fox trade if they knew...")

However Vassell and Keldon are not good and are bad salary and have been *the key pieces* on one of the absolute worst teams in the league for multiple years. They are at or below zero value and the #2 pick and a pile of long shots isn't a good deal reflective of what Brad has done for years.

Only way I see it done is with 2 and Castle and future picks to Boston. Vassell seems like salary filler

[GrandTheftRondo]

This is who we played when we lost to Miami tow years ago.
startersJayson Tatum
Al Horford
Marcus Smart
Derrick White
Jaylen Brown
Grant Williams
Sam Hauser
Mike Muscala
Luke Kornet
Robert Williams III
Malcolm Brogdon
Payton Pritchard

We were contenders then, favorites actually. came back from 3-0. If we resign Horford and Kornet and consider Simons a better or at least equal version of Brogdon, we have basically swapped Smart and Grant for a sixth man of the year and a league top 5 shooter. Plus whatever BS turns into and full draft capital available. That is a contending team, maybe not next year, but for years afterwards.

Will you guys stop throwing Horford in there like he’s 25 years old and guaranteed to be good in two seasons time.

It’s getting **** ridiculous.

Horford will play next season, but not in Boston. I'm thinking NY.

Exactly.

He’s not even guaranteed to be here and regardless I really don’t think he’s got much left.

He’s shown clear signs of decline the last two years (still a very good player to have).

The dude has been around forever.

Cannot believe people keep justifying the Celtics will be contenders in two seasons if their roster is similar to how it was in 2022 or 2023, because apparently Horford is still that good and will basically carry our front court with Tatum.

Ridiculous.

[ParticleMan]

I don't think we should re-sign Horf. pains me to say it but there is no point having him on this team next year. Maybe he retires, maybe he plays another year elsewhere. then when Tatum returns we can see if he wants to come back at the vet min.

[chrisab123]

Can't have it both ways.

You can't say we should not be excited about Simons because he's bad and expect to trade him for Bam Adebayo.

Dude if Simons gets traded soon the crash from you is going to be bad. You act like this guy is a 10 time all star and has better handles than Tatum. His wingspan sucks which hurts his defense. I dont know if you’re his cousin or not but stop

But a large expiring deal is still a large expiring deal. Depending on what they want to do with that it has value. So it does have value when wanting a quality player back much like a guy like Bam which the Heat might want to move off of. But like I said I don’t think it would happen. But that’s the move that’s logical, Simons and Hauser for a big.

[playa-hater]

Getting #2 +#14 plus any player reasonable (doesn't have to be Castle) I take immediately. Maybe because I love the talent at 2 and 14. More trades may have to be done, But Do it Brad.. Don't tease me.

[cl2117]

I don't think we should re-sign Horf. pains me to say it but there is no point having him on this team next year. Maybe he retires, maybe he plays another year elsewhere. then when Tatum returns we can see if he wants to come back at the vet min.

I want us to invest in a project big man in this draft and I'd give Hoford the Haslem handhsake to come back as long as he wants on the vet minimum if he sticks around as our bench coach/mentor.

[TheChiefsStash]

[quote=]
Reggie was not a 3pt shooter.

And Reggie was not a top 10 player at that time.

It would also be hard for Reggie to get past MJ.[/quote]

Eh... Nobody was a 3pt shooter in the early 90s.

Fair point on the Bulls.