Draft Day Shenanigans (IV)
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He’s bigger than Al Horford who didn’t shoot 3s at all in college and had a 61% FT.
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Broome fits well in Nurse’s weave-style offense because of his handle, passing, and scoring ability. He can operate as a hub in DHO actions and consistently makes high-level reads, knowing when to pass and when to attack the rim. Like a center, better passer and higher IQ version of Kelly Oubre.
He also posts strong offensive rebounding and stocks numbers, which are traits Morey values in players who can generate extra possessions. Right now we have guards and wings with high steal #s and deflection #s, or bigs like Drummond and Broome who excel in steals and ORebs.
While Broome is undersized, he won’t be asked to take on traditional bigs 1v1 unless the defense switches a smaller player onto him.
I’m just hoping his shooting takes a leap.
He also posts strong offensive rebounding and stocks numbers, which are traits Morey values in players who can generate extra possessions. Right now we have guards and wings with high steal #s and deflection #s, or bigs like Drummond and Broome who excel in steals and ORebs.
While Broome is undersized, he won’t be asked to take on traditional bigs 1v1 unless the defense switches a smaller player onto him.
I’m just hoping his shooting takes a leap.
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Rebounding off the bench is always needed. In theory we are getting a rookie who should hopefully play like a veteran and maybe he improves his 3 over a season or 2.
It hasn't been that long since we get annihilated on the boards in the Knicks playoff series.
It hasn't been that long since we get annihilated on the boards in the Knicks playoff series.
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Covi_Marsh wrote:He’s bigger than Al Horford who didn’t shoot 3s at all in college and had a 61% FT.
Al Horford also only has a 8'11" standing reach.
Broome's is 9'.05"
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Looking at size/vertical numbers. Broome measured out at the same exact height as #13 pick Derik Queen. Broom was 1.6 lbs heavier, with a better vertical (24.5 vs 23.5).
Queen had a 1/4 inch wingspan advantage.
Queen had a 1/4 inch wingspan advantage.
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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:mjkvol wrote:Iscull wrote:
I watched more auburn march madness games than any other team and really liked his play. I don’t know how well it will translate, but he seems like a gamer.
What I like about this draft, Morey drafted two guys who are going to absolutely grind it out. Let’s turn the culture in the locker room to be more in line with the City.
He is a gamer, but he's an undersized big who can't shoot. He's not going to be able to pound on guys in the low post like in college. I don't see any upside here.
Are you sure about that last part? Personally I think his shooting is better than given credit for. He's not afraid to chuck it from deep. Physically this dude is a moose. Guys are gonna get moved when he's out there. If nothing else he's a tenacious rebounder that will go and get the ball and he's far from a liability on offense IF...IF he can stretch the floor. I don't know man. I get that you don't like him and that's totally fine, but I like the pick and I think he just needs opportunities. He won't get too many of them with Nurse here, but if the proverbial Embiid and George injuries show up the way they always will, then he'll get a shot. At that point it probably won't matter. Either way I'm hoping for the best.
I don't dislike him, I absolutely love his fire and fight. Kid played through a nasty injury for much of the latter part of the SEC schedule last season. I just never saw his game translating to this level beyond being a physical big to possibly eat up some minutes and fouls and get some rebounds.
Listen, unless the Sixers were going to draft Chaz I didn't have a dog in the fight once Fleming was picked, but like I said, unless he's been hiding a shooting stroke or develops into a great passing big, it's hard to envision him being an impact player, but I guess we'll see.
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Kobblehead wrote:Covi_Marsh wrote:He’s bigger than Al Horford who didn’t shoot 3s at all in college and had a 61% FT.
Al Horford also only has a 8'11" standing reach.
Broome's is 9'.05"
If he starts spacing the floor like Horford then I'll change my mind.
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mjkvol wrote:Kobblehead wrote:Covi_Marsh wrote:He’s bigger than Al Horford who didn’t shoot 3s at all in college and had a 61% FT.
Al Horford also only has a 8'11" standing reach.
Broome's is 9'.05"
If he starts spacing the floor like Horford then I'll change my mind.
While he's figuring that part of his game out, he'll be making our shooters better with his elite positional playmaking.
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I'm a little bit comfused here. I mean that Adou Thiero guy can't shoot either ... as a perimeter player ...
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Kobblehead wrote:mjkvol wrote:Kobblehead wrote:Al Horford also only has a 8'11" standing reach.
Broome's is 9'.05"
If he starts spacing the floor like Horford then I'll change my mind.
While he's figuring that part of his game out, he'll be making our shooters better with his elite positional playmaking.
All these posts touting him as "one of the best players in college basketball last year" - if he's that productive and has 'elite positional playmaking' ability, why on earth is he a 2nd round pick?
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point guard if McCain can’t play
VJ Edgecombe
Justin Edwards
Johni Broome
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Summer League Championship!!
VJ Edgecombe
Justin Edwards
Johni Broome
Adem Bona
Summer League Championship!!
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Broome definitely feels like a guy who will dominate summer league.
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mjkvol wrote:
All these posts touting him as "one of the best players in college basketball last year" - if he's that productive and has 'elite positional playmaking' ability, why on earth is he a 2nd round pick?
Why did Quinten Post fall to 52 in last year's draft?
Because he was 24 at the time of the draft and unathletic.
Same story here. And just like Post, Broome shares all the same translatable skills. Scoring, rebounding, playmaking.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/postqu01.html
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Broome took 129 mid range shots last season on 46% shooting
Between this season and last, Broome has made 33.1% of his threes on 5.2 attempts per 100 possessions.
On paper, that may not sound like anything to write home about. But for a big man prospect, he grades out really well in terms of three-point shooting volume and pretty well in terms of efficiency.
In particular, Broome thrives when left alone. During these past two years, he’s made 40.9% of his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, per Synergy. Far more often than not, defenses end up closing out on Broome. This year, 63.3% of his catch-and-shoot triples have been classified as “guarded” attempts.
Given his overall percentage, Broome will need to get better at shooting over contests in order to maximize his value.
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mjkvol wrote:Kobblehead wrote:Covi_Marsh wrote:He’s bigger than Al Horford who didn’t shoot 3s at all in college and had a 61% FT.
Al Horford also only has a 8'11" standing reach.
Broome's is 9'.05"
If he starts spacing the floor like Horford then I'll change my mind.
Horford took 4 threes his whole career at Florida lol. Didn’t start shooting them in the league until he was 29, his last season in Atlanta. Have some optimism
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going to use him to play the offense hub role that Biid plays as a passer I guess
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This year, Broome took things to another level. He’s one of the highest usage players his size in the country, ranking fourth overall among players 6’9” and above per BartTorvik, with a seismic 30.8 USG%. Along with that, he’s posting an outstanding 23.5 AST% and a microscopic 7.3 TOV%.
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76ciology wrote:Broome took 129 mid range shots last season on 46% shootingBetween this season and last, Broome has made 33.1% of his threes on 5.2 attempts per 100 possessions.
On paper, that may not sound like anything to write home about. But for a big man prospect, he grades out really well in terms of three-point shooting volume and pretty well in terms of efficiency.
In particular, Broome thrives when left alone. During these past two years, he’s made 40.9% of his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, per Synergy. Far more often than not, defenses end up closing out on Broome. This year, 63.3% of his catch-and-shoot triples have been classified as “guarded” attempts.
Given his overall percentage, Broome will need to get better at shooting over contests in order to maximize his value.
A small ray of sunshine in the dark cloud of his terrible shooting. Then you look at the FT% and you realize that no, this is false hope.
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I'm alright on Broome. He's a funny player, he waddles when he walks, but he's tough. He has really good hands, and he's also like, without using hyperbole, one of the most dominant college ballers ever.
Hard to say to what degree his play will translate to the next level but I'd be shocked if that type of rebounder with that passing ability and shot blocking wasn't an NBA player.
A lot of overlap though. Morey's been spamming guards and then centers on repeat.
Hard to say to what degree his play will translate to the next level but I'd be shocked if that type of rebounder with that passing ability and shot blocking wasn't an NBA player.
A lot of overlap though. Morey's been spamming guards and then centers on repeat.







