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Re: CHA/MIA 

Post#21 » by Paz » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:01 pm

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CHA Out: B. Miller | G. Williams | J. Okogie | 2026 FRP | 2027 FRP (returned) | 2029 SRP
MIA Out: E. Adebayo

CHA Lineup: L. Ball | J. Green | M. Bridges | E. Adebayo | J. Nurkić
MIA Lineup: D. Mitchell | T. Herro | B. Miller | N. Jović | K. Ware

Rationale: CHA gets their star piece to align with Ball. MIA gets a young talent (Miller) 1 valuable FRP (2026 CHA) and their 2027 pick back, giving them flexibility in future trades.

I'm not a HUGE fan of this but IMO it's much closer in value in comparison to OP.
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Post#22 » by jbk1234 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:08 pm

Bam isn't single handedly saving the Hornets defense and the Heat will insist on the Hornets picks being unprotected which the Hornets should not do.
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Post#23 » by BK_2020 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm

Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return.
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Post#24 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:31 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return.

Desmond Bane got more
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Post#25 » by BK_2020 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:37 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return.

Desmond Bane got more

Desmond Bane didn't bring back a former #2 pick who's showing out at age 22.
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Post#26 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:38 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return.

Desmond Bane got more


He did not get more than Brandon Miller + 3 1sts
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Post#27 » by psman2 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:47 pm

OP likely needs to find a way to make the picks offered have more upside, but if was Miami you have to look in the mirror and ask if you can compete with a 50+ million a year Bam the next 2 to 3 years. Really hard to build around that contract and limited assets, I would be shopping him now hard.
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Post#28 » by gswhoops » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:52 pm

psman2 wrote:OP likely needs to find a way to make the picks offered have more upside, but if was Miami you have to look in the mirror and ask if you can compete with a 50+ million a year Bam the next 2 to 3 years. Really hard to build around that contract and limited assets, I would be shopping him now hard.

I think the current plan is go into 2026 FA with Bam and Herro and max cap space and go star hunting. Maybe if that plan doesn't work they pivot to a rebuild, but I don't see it happening this offseason.
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Post#29 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:17 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return.

Desmond Bane got more

Desmond Bane didn't bring back a former #2 pick who's showing out at age 22.

Op didn't offer that, did he?
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Post#30 » by BK_2020 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:18 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Desmond Bane got more

Desmond Bane didn't bring back a former #2 pick who's showing out at age 22.

Op didn't offer that, did he?

I'm talking about the offer that's floated later.
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Post#31 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:20 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Desmond Bane didn't bring back a former #2 pick who's showing out at age 22.

Op didn't offer that, did he?

I'm talking about the offer that's floated later.

I gather that, but how could I possibly have known?
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Post#32 » by BK_2020 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:19 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Op didn't offer that, did he?

I'm talking about the offer that's floated later.

I gather that, but how could I possibly have known?

Because Brandon Miller is mentioned as a return.
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Post#33 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I'm talking about the offer that's floated later.

I gather that, but how could I possibly have known?

Because Brandon Miller is mentioned as a return.

Not in your initial response, which is what I responded to.

Your initial response was incredibly generic.

"Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return."
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Post#34 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:36 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I gather that, but how could I possibly have known?

Because Brandon Miller is mentioned as a return.

Not in your initial response, which is what I responded to.

Your initial response was incredibly generic.

"Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return."


Instead of arguing back and forth about semantics, why don't we table that discussion.

Do you think Bam will receive more, less, or similar to the return that Bane received?
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Post#35 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:38 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Because Brandon Miller is mentioned as a return.

Not in your initial response, which is what I responded to.

Your initial response was incredibly generic.

"Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return."


Instead of arguing back and forth about semantics, why don't we table that discussion.

Do you think Bam will receive more, less, or similar to the return that Bane received?

I don't think we're trading him unless we're somehow getting Giannis. This type of package isn't what we want
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Post#36 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:40 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Not in your initial response, which is what I responded to.

Your initial response was incredibly generic.

"Bam isn't a top tier star and even top tier star wasn't bringing back this return."


Instead of arguing back and forth about semantics, why don't we table that discussion.

Do you think Bam will receive more, less, or similar to the return that Bane received?

I don't think we're trading him unless we're somehow getting Giannis. This type of package isn't what we want


You want to trade Bam + Assets for an upgrade, rather than breaking down Bam into smaller long-term assets?

Makes sense, though unrealistic, which is why Miami likely retains Bam.
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Post#37 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:42 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Instead of arguing back and forth about semantics, why don't we table that discussion.

Do you think Bam will receive more, less, or similar to the return that Bane received?

I don't think we're trading him unless we're somehow getting Giannis. This type of package isn't what we want


You want to trade Bam + Assets for an upgrade, rather than breaking down Bam into smaller long-term assets?

Makes sense, though unrealistic, which is why Miami likely retains Bam.

I'm not arguing, but we're not a team that rebuilds.
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Post#38 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:44 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I don't think we're trading him unless we're somehow getting Giannis. This type of package isn't what we want


You want to trade Bam + Assets for an upgrade, rather than breaking down Bam into smaller long-term assets?

Makes sense, though unrealistic, which is why Miami likely retains Bam.

I'm not arguing, but we're not a team that rebuilds.


Nobody is insinuating you are arguing. We are having a discussion, no? :D :D
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Post#39 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:53 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
You want to trade Bam + Assets for an upgrade, rather than breaking down Bam into smaller long-term assets?

Makes sense, though unrealistic, which is why Miami likely retains Bam.

I'm not arguing, but we're not a team that rebuilds.


Nobody is insinuating you are arguing. We are having a discussion, no? :D :D

Don't need to get defensive, man. That was my way of agreeing with you. It's not likely. I think the only way Miami trades Bam is if they're adding more and getting a big upgrade. I don't see us parting him out
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Post#40 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:55 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I'm not arguing, but we're not a team that rebuilds.


Nobody is insinuating you are arguing. We are having a discussion, no? :D :D

Don't need to get defensive, man. That was my way of agreeing with you. It's not likely. I think the only way Miami trades Bam is if they're adding more and getting a big upgrade. I don't see us parting him out


I actually like the Bam/Herro combo. The only problem, and maybe it is a big one, is that they need a versatile wing to pair with him.

Upgrading Wiggins is an interesting thought exercise, and Miami has the assets to add a larger fish, maybe not the biggest one.

I would be willing to part with Siakam at the right price from Miami.

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