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Rosters are set. Now where do we rank?

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What's our seed?

Contenders = Top 3
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1%
Playoff locks = 4-6
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35%
Play in = 7-10
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53%
Treadmill = 11-12
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8%
Lottery = 13-15
4
2%
 
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Re: Rosters are set. Now where do we rank? 

Post#61 » by SFour » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:43 pm

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nikster wrote:It's hard to say what will happen to Detroit. They lost THJ and Beasley. Beasley had an insane year from 3 that's gonna be tough to replicate, even from Robinson (who's also gonna be worse defensively). Between the 2 of them they accounted for almost 50% of Detroits made 3s last year. Their replacements in Levert and Robinson will be a downgrade. Schroder only played a third of the season but he was a big part of their push at the end of the year (17-11 with him).

They'll have Jaden Ivey healthy, but its not implausible they take a step back.



Sure, but Beasley is "only" under investigation, just like Rozier was (not guilty). If he's proven not guilty, he will likely come back. And if not, there are still rumors Monk could be headed to Detroit.

I still think Detroit will be a 48W team. Good times to be a Piston fan for sure.

Beasley also has other circumstances that don't look good like his Dentist garnishing wages and being sued by his previous agency. He is also not under contract, so how does Detroit sign him given the other moves they made?

But yeah they are still a young team with lots of rooms for growth


Detroit gave Beasley's 3 year contract to Robinson....I'm pretty sure they can't sign him anymore even if he's found innocent.
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Post#62 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:56 pm

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Post#63 » by KRANG » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:00 pm

Most likely in the 9-12th range
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Post#64 » by Tofubeque » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:07 pm

I’m bullish on this team in this East. Ingram/Poeltl are a competitive duo and the depth should be much better to sustain through any injuries. I’m not totally sold on the Scottie-RJ-Quickley elements but they could surprise.
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Post#65 » by tms » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:22 pm

#1 in my heart. That's all that matters
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Post#66 » by Scase » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:52 pm

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Raps in the west now?
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Post#67 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:56 pm

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Raps in the west now?


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Post#68 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:58 pm

ESPN Poll, who will win the East?

CLE
BOS
NYK
IND
MIL
DET
ORL
MIA
ATL
CHI
BRK
PHI
CHA
WAS
OTHER
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Post#69 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:58 pm

High variable team

Best case scenario 48 wins 5th in east
Highest probability outcome 43 wins 9th in east
Worst case scenario 36 wins 11th in east

Cavs
Magic
Hawks
Knicks
76ers

Don't think we catching that group baring major injuries

Bucks
Celtics
Pacers
Detroit

Due to injuries, legal issues, and bad management (looking at you Bucks) these teams are all very questionable and catchable

Bulls
Miami

These two teams were better than us, but probably not if we'd been healthy, neither team tends to tank so should be in the race for playoffs.

Wizards
Nets
Hornets

The tank teams that we better not be anywhere close to.
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Post#70 » by JB7 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:58 pm

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Raps in the west now?


Well with odds clearly over +6500, the Raps would appear to be the best team to place a bet on, just for the the potential win if they were to hit.

I find it comical that the Sixers get the 4th best odds, while the Raps are even considered top 10 in the East.
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Post#71 » by Scase » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:01 pm

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Raps in the west now?


Well with odds clearly over +6500, the Raps would appear to be the best team to place a bet on, just for the the potential win if they were to hit.

I find it comical that the Sixers get the 4th best odds, while the Raps are even considered top 10 in the East.

I don't think they are over 6500, likely just dummies forgetting to put them in. But betting on NBA futures is like setting money on fire imo lol
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Post#72 » by ishoy123 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:28 pm

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ishoy123 wrote:Bobby was pretty clear the roster is not set


Was he ?


Yes, he said as much in the post-draft interview when he said the roster wasn't good enough hence the logic to draft for BPA rather than fit.
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Post#73 » by TorontoRapsFan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:09 pm

If team is healthy for majority of the season, I think we have a real good chance of being a 50 win team again. I don't know why so many people are down on this team. We got another 20ppgscorer added to the starting lineup. That's a big deal. Raps can have a starting lineup that averages 90ppg pretty easily. Just cause they're not 3pt shooters doesn't mean it takes away from how they can make it easier for each other to score. You add, hopefully, shooting improvements from Jakobe and Gradey and you got a real serious team here.
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Post#74 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:19 pm

HumbleRen wrote:If we don’t make any trades from here on out?

I see us in the play in territory. Above .500 if Ingram stays healthy. Under .500 if Ingram isn’t able to play 60+ games.

High end outcome - 45 wins.
Expected outcome - 43 wins.
Disappointing outcome - 38 wins.



I don’t see us winning our play in games. Back to F5 on tankathon for the rest of spring.

Considering our high outcome last year was roughly 40-45 wins if we didn’t get hurt / purposely tank, I’m not sure how we can say it’s 45 again this year when we’re undoubtfully improved.

Our expected wins is probably closer to 43-48, with a high end of 50-55 if everything breaks right
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Post#75 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:25 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:If we don’t make any trades from here on out?

I see us in the play in territory. Above .500 if Ingram stays healthy. Under .500 if Ingram isn’t able to play 60+ games.

High end outcome - 45 wins.
Expected outcome - 43 wins.
Disappointing outcome - 38 wins.



I don’t see us winning our play in games. Back to F5 on tankathon for the rest of spring.

Considering our high outcome last year was roughly 40-45 wins if we didn’t get hurt / purposely tank, I’m not sure how we can say it’s 45 again this year when we’re undoubtfully improved.

Our expected wins is probably closer to 43-48, with a high end of 50-55 if everything breaks right


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Post#76 » by WhatsaTDot » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:39 pm

I say 10.

Cleveland
New York
Orlando
Atlanta
Boston
Philadelphia
Indiana
Detroit
Miami
Toronto
Milwaukee
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Post#77 » by Tom_Foolery » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:39 pm

Treadmill = 11-12, Until proven otherwise.
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Post#78 » by canada_dry » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:40 pm

7th seed.

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Post#79 » by WhatsaTDot » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:43 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:If we don’t make any trades from here on out?

I see us in the play in territory. Above .500 if Ingram stays healthy. Under .500 if Ingram isn’t able to play 60+ games.

High end outcome - 45 wins.
Expected outcome - 43 wins.
Disappointing outcome - 38 wins.



I don’t see us winning our play in games. Back to F5 on tankathon for the rest of spring.

Considering our high outcome last year was roughly 40-45 wins if we didn’t get hurt / purposely tank, I’m not sure how we can say it’s 45 again this year when we’re undoubtfully improved.

Our expected wins is probably closer to 43-48, with a high end of 50-55 if everything breaks right


Many teams in the East have improved while the ones that have suffered significant injuries/losses (Boston/Ind) are arguably better than us. I haven't look at the health of Philly's roster so that will be very much a question mark. Maybe we're better than Miami. I see 8 as a ceiling.
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Post#80 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:44 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:If we don’t make any trades from here on out?

I see us in the play in territory. Above .500 if Ingram stays healthy. Under .500 if Ingram isn’t able to play 60+ games.

High end outcome - 45 wins.
Expected outcome - 43 wins.
Disappointing outcome - 38 wins.



I don’t see us winning our play in games. Back to F5 on tankathon for the rest of spring.

Considering our high outcome last year was roughly 40-45 wins if we didn’t get hurt / purposely tank, I’m not sure how we can say it’s 45 again this year when we’re undoubtfully improved.

Our expected wins is probably closer to 43-48, with a high end of 50-55 if everything breaks right


I would like to have what you’re smoking.


Well it’s just factual.

Last year it took everything in us to get down to 30. If we didn’t shut everyone down we likely end up in the mid-high 30s. If we didn’t have IQ miss 50 games, JWK 30, Barnes 25, RJ 25, Poeltl 25, Agabj 20, etc. We already in the low-mid 40s.

Now we added to that roster CMB and Ingram.

High end of 45 games only being 2 games higher over expected is insanity. High end would be moderately good health (say, guys miss 10-15 games instead of 25-50), CMB is a decent bench guy (not a stud, but not a liability), and like one of the 2nd/3rd year guys take a little leap (again, don’t have to become a star but just a reliable everyday piece).

It’s not crazy to think if everything broke right you could win 50.


People seem to forget we were missing literally half of main rotation for half the year with IQ/Brown/Olynyk/Barnes all missing time early in the season.

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