[Shams] Duncan Robinson to the Detroit Pistons - 3yrs/$48million

[MrBigShot]

Absolutely awful. This reminds me of the Ben Gordon / Charli Villanueva signings. Detroit had one year where they were making smart decisions, and now it's over.

We are not having a good off season but this signing isn't even in the same stratosphere. We give BG & CV damn near 33% of the cap combined and locked them into guaranteed 5 year contracts.

This is basically just a 1 year rental that to try to replace Beasley's shooting amid his investigation.

[miamiheat319]

Thank god. Now if pat riley wants to wake up from his nap that would be fantastic

Do you see Miami getting any takers for Rozier or will they just have to eat his contract for one more year?

i have no idea tbh haha, i don't think i've heard much about any other teams taking him. i think that any team that would take him would be dumb unless they're looking for like a 9th/10th man maybe. he completely fell out of the rotation for a little last year and when he was playing i wished that he wasn't

in my ideal world, it would be him and wiggins traded for literally anything

[Chuck Everett]

Losing Fontecchio for Duncan and this basically being a sneaky 1-year-deal, makes it a good move. Levert and Duncan Robinson as a duo are better than Hardaway and Beasley in your rotation (to me). If Ivey continues his play before the injury, then you live with losing Schroder and now spend more energy on Ausar Thompson/Ron Holland development. Langdon salvaged this. The Beasley fiasco is not his fault obviously.

[Ben-N1ce]

Lol

[slicedbread2]

Losing Fontecchio for Duncan and this basically being a sneaky 1-year-deal, makes it a good move. Levert and Duncan Robinson as a duo are better than Hardaway and Beasley in your rotation (to me). If Ivey continues his play before the injury, then you live with losing Schroder and now spend more energy on Ausar Thompson/Ron Holland development. Langdon salvaged this. The Beasley fiasco is not his fault obviously.

It's a college homecoming for Levert and Duncan as both played college ball at Michigan under Beilein. Still can't get enough of the resemblance of Robinson to Jimmy Neutron and Sheen Estevez

[PushDaRock]

Some obvious collusion shenanigans to get him to decline his player option in the first place plus sign and trade has to be for at least 3 years which is the reasoning for the goofy contract.

[BBallFreak]

Some obvious collusion shenanigans to get him to decline his player option in the first place plus sign and trade has to be for at least 3 years which is the reasoning for the goofy contract.

There's a legal tampering period that probably makes this okay.

[Clyde Frazier]

Flat out wild how Robinson basically took Beasley's deal because Beasley's a degenerate gambler. Can't make this **** up.

[___Rand___]

He was way overpaid here and struggles on defense, even if he tries. He can be an underrated playmaker with the ball, but that's not his game mostly. He can get red hot and then fall off a cliff. After he got paid, he fell off a cliff, kind of came back in the playoffs, and then ended up somewhere in the middle. Miami tried to get out of his contract several times, but nobody bit. I'm happy he is moving on, but I still wish him the best of luck and thanks for a couple of Finals runs. Detroit runs on Duncan now.

Do you know how many times I see red when Duncan's on the floor and teams do not take advantage of his defense? That includes my team under Nurse and Darko. Miami has had crater-sized holes on defense for years but teams just don't seem to exploit them consistently.

[GSP]

Horrible contract but they needed spacing after the Beasley situation. One dimensional 3pt shooters like Duncan who cant even hit them off the dribble are useless now in playoffs. If thats all you can do and youre a bad defender like Duncan, dont impact rebounding, passing, cant handle or make plays, score in any other ways besides 3s created for you youre a liability come playoffs. Weve seen it time and time again.

[azcatz11]

Absolutely awful. This reminds me of the Ben Gordon / Charli Villanueva signings. Detroit had one year where they were making smart decisions, and now it's over.

We are not having a good off season but this signing isn't even in the same stratosphere. We give BG & CV damn near 33% of the cap combined and locked them into guaranteed 5 year contracts.

This is basically just a 1 year rental that to try to replace Beasley's shooting amid his investigation.

Chaz will replicate his shooting.

[Invictus88]

Horrible contract but they needed spacing after the Beasley situation. One dimensional 3pt shooters like Duncan who cant even hit them off the dribble are useless now in playoffs. If thats all you can do and youre a bad defender like Duncan, dont impact rebounding, passing, cant handle or make plays, score in any other ways besides 3s created for you youre a liability come playoffs. Weve seen it time and time again.

It's really not a horrible contract considering:
1. Only the 1st year and part of the 2nd are guaranteed. The back half of the 2nd year and 3rd year are only to make it eligible for a S&T deal.
2. We gave up a 2 year, 8 million dollar/yr contract (16 million total) of a player permanently on our bench (Fontecchio) in return

So from the Pistons perspective they pay something like 4 million additionally (20 million total) to get help filling a spot up shooting void left by Beasley for the next year.

Robinson isn't going to be retained for years 2 or 3 of the contract unless something magical happens. His contract can also be a nice 'expiring' contract used to facilitate a future trade.

The guy isn't the first option but it's not nearly as bad as some folks are making this out to be who are only looking at surface numbers.

[UcanUwill]

Is Rasputin this guys agent? How does he keep getting away with this?

[vege]

Horrible contract but they needed spacing after the Beasley situation. One dimensional 3pt shooters like Duncan who cant even hit them off the dribble are useless now in playoffs. If thats all you can do and youre a bad defender like Duncan, dont impact rebounding, passing, cant handle or make plays, score in any other ways besides 3s created for you youre a liability come playoffs. Weve seen it time and time again.

It's really not a horrible contract considering:
1. Only the 1st year and part of the 2nd are guaranteed. The back half of the 2nd year and 3rd year are only to make it eligible for a S&T deal.
2. We gave up a 2 year, 8 million dollar/yr contract (16 million total) of a player permanently on our bench (Fontecchio) in return

So from the Pistons perspective they pay something like 4 million additionally (20 million total) to get help filling a spot up shooting void left by Beasley for the next year.

Robinson isn't going to be retained for years 2 or 3 of the contract unless something magical happens. His contract can also be a nice 'expiring' contract used to facilitate a future trade.

The guy isn't the first option but it's not nearly as bad as some folks are making this out to be who are only looking at surface numbers.

Fontecchio was an expiring, but yeah Robinson contract is not bad, considering 3rd year is a team option, and 1st year Miami is pretty much paying half of it because we were willing to pay to dump Fontecchio.

[floppymoose]

I imagine there are others, but the only DIV III player I know to make the NBA is Duncan Robinson. And yes, I know he was at DIV I UMich, but he started at DIV III Williams College. These guys:



I went to school there. PE basketball was on the same court the team played on. . I used to play pickup against the lesser team players all the time. And I'm awful. Just a different world from the major programs.

Here was the court back in the day. About 3 rows of bleachers. Standing room on the running track above to watch the games. You could hear everything the players and coaches said. We used to chant "Sit Down Coach!" whenever the opposing coach stood. It often worked, because they wanted to not be drowned out when trying to communicate with the players on court.