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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#641 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:51 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:
Stevens could very well end up with Bassey for a song. A vet min contract. I agree with the wings over bigs philosophy
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#642 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:52 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:


Well Kendrick Perkins and Kelly Olynyk were 2 good ones and KP lead to KG..
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Post#643 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:53 pm

playa-hater wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:


Well Kendrick Perkins and Kelly Olynyk were 2 good ones and KP lead to KG..


yep, yep good pull, I forgot about Perk and Kelly
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#644 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:00 pm

So ladies and Gents, who do you want and/or who do you expect too see start and get significant minutes tonight?? Same starters??

Feels like I am picking on him, but I am not, But no more Kenny Loften. I feel we need to see more of other players that "might" make the team as well as Loften takes so many shots without passing.

I want to see a good shooting game from Rico. Looking pretty but not efficient is not the way to Go. and can Jordan Walsh have two good shooting/scoring games in a row??

Obviously our top pick Hugo. Want to see him even more involved.
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Post#645 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:01 pm

Better game from Scheierman would be much appreciated over here!
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Post#646 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:05 pm

playa-hater wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:


Well Kendrick Perkins and Kelly Olynyk were 2 good ones and KP lead to KG..


Big Al lead to KG
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Post#647 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:05 pm

I also think there is a battle between who will be the 3rd center between Bassy and Amari. and every game like this can move the needle.
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Post#648 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:07 pm

phincsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo



Well Kendrick Perkins and Kelly Olynyk were 2 good ones and KP lead to KG..


Big Al lead to KG


Kendrick Perkins - KP .. led to KG.
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Post#649 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:11 pm

playa-hater wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Well Kendrick Perkins and Kelly Olynyk were 2 good ones and KP lead to KG..


Big Al lead to KG


Kendrick Perkins - KP .. led to KG.


I thought you meant trade wise.
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Post#650 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:11 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:


I imagine Brad's scarred for life from joining the C's just as Danny was trading up to snatch Kelly O ahead of Giannis and Rudy in, yes, the Colton Iverson draft.
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Post#651 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:14 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Years ago, like bubble era Celtics, Bill Simmons said on a pod that C's front office wanted to put their resources into wings and guards because they felt, unless you're talking about a Jokic-level franchise center, you can always get big men cheaply to do the dirty work.

Danny rarely took a big in the draft, but he took some here and there: Semi Erden, Jordan Mickey, Colton Iverson, Robert Williams

Maybe the front office still feels like that though. If the player doesnt project to all star then don't waste picks on that position. Or maybe they just didn't like Raynaud and Kalkbrenner as much as they liked Amari Williams, which is possible. Amari Williams has a 7-6 wingspan is 260lbs and just averaged 5 asst/36 at highest level of NCAA hoops. But importantly, they took Amari at #46 not #28 or 32, and that says something imo

flintsky21 wrote:I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:


I imagine Brad's scarred for life from joining the C's just as Danny was trading up to snatch Kelly O ahead of Giannis and Rudy in, yes, the Colton Iverson draft.


lol, unless Brad was cheerleading for Kelly
but as some other posters have said, I forgot several bigs. When you add Kelly Olynyk, Kendrick Perkins, Al Jefferson to the list, then Danny Ainge actually look quite a number of bigs, more than I remembered at first
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Post#652 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:17 pm

phincsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
Big Al lead to KG


Kendrick Perkins - KP .. led to KG.


I thought you meant trade wise.


Actually I did.. My mistake. Just remembered it was Al Jefferson not Kendrick Perkins for Kevin Garnet. KP was traded for Jeff Green.
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Post#653 » by bisme37 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:20 pm

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Post#654 » by celtxman » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:21 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud


jonige94 wrote:Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.

Or Kalkbrenner at #32. Are they looking at a vet (i.e. Vucevic) with a Simons trade?
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Post#655 » by ThePigeon » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:23 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:Maybe the "we don't like rookies" stuff is both Brad and Joe don't like rookies and draft just for letting players go (or forced to draft players in the 1st round)

Getting a FRP like in 32 instead of getting Williams and Shulga who will probably be out of the league (or not even getting there) in 2-3 years is a fumble IMO

Brad likes to get the known NBA commodities on the cheap instead of drafting (Queta, Garza, Minott, Tillman, Springer, Kebangele, Banton, Champagnie, Bruno Fernando and even Kornet) or get an old (23-24) undrafted guys and develop them

The "we don't like rookies" is maybe more understandable for a coach, the coach is thinking about winning tonight's game.
But for a GM, it doesnt even make sense?

If you look at the modern NBA what successful GM hasn't made super successful draft picks?

Krause with Pippen, Grant and Kukoc in the 2nd
Presti with Tony Parker, Russ Westbrook, Ibaka and on and on
Buford with Manu, Kawhi, George Hill etc etc on and on
Myers with Draymond
Danny Ainge with Rondo, AlJeff, Tatum, Brown, etc
Riley with D Wade
Jerry West had Kobe Bryant, Klay Tompson, etc

What is an example of a successful GM who didn't do work in the draft??


Brad?
Getting the right players in trades and signing FAs (after DA got JT and JB in the draft - and Smart as a major piece in a trade)

He drafted how many players? 8? 10? and nothing to write home about (jury is still out for most of them though)

I think the same as you and most of the people here - Brad needs to do a better job drafting, and maybe trading 32 was a mistake
We'll see how Hugo will play in 2-3 years and how Roco will play this year. Hope both will pan out
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Post#656 » by playa-hater » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:24 pm

Asa Newell impressive today. Made 4 of 5 3 pointers.

and Oso Ighodaro, the Big I want traded to Boston might be playing too well right now for the Suns. Dang it.
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Post#657 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:24 pm

celtxman wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud


jonige94 wrote:Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.

Or Kalkbrenner at #32. Are they looking at a vet (i.e. Vucevic) with a Simons trade?


I sincerely hope they don't add any old guys to take young guys' minutes and push the C's down in the draft next year.
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Post#658 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:30 pm

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Post#659 » by Gant » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:32 pm

Bobby Krivitsky‬

Hugo Gonzalez and Miles Norris are both in street clothes for today’s Celtics-Knicks game.

Brad Stevens said yesterday the plan was to rest Gonzalez one of Boston’s next two games.
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Post#660 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:34 pm

Well, Bridges it is then.

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