2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[batterybro42]

These books in Miami are CLEAN

Miami will be in the ECF within the next two years take it to the bank

[BadMofoPimp]

If you are raising an entitled child who does not put in the work and just expects to be rewarded, what do you do? Especially if what they do produce and contribute to the household is half-a**ed?

I don’t know about you, but if my son is just collecting without giving, I am putting him through the wringer. Especially if I know he can give me more, but he is not and is coming in each day with an entitlement. A coach is not very different than a parent, especially when dealing with young drafted players. Those aren’t men yet, and you are their first real world experience after they left school… someone needs to give them the lessons on how to be an adult in an adult world. How to be a professional in a professional world.

Maybe it’s just me… but I would not raise an entitled child by giving them more of what they feel entitled to. They will need to work for it and earn it.

I don’t like this analogy. The players aren’t children and Spo isn’t their parent. They are professionals and colleagues. There are expectations from BOTH. It shouldn’t just be one sided. There is a lot to be desired from Spo when it comes to developing the drafted players. Even some guys like Whiteside and Duncan that the Heat dumped a lot of money into. As soon as they got paid they found themselves in Spo’s dog house. We’ll see how it progresses with the newer guys. Jaime is already on the same path. This sort of thing happens way to often here for it just be on the players.

Have you ever had to manage green employees straight out of college? Of course you would like for them to be pros and solid coworkers out the gate, but at the end of the day, they still lack real world experience and will have growing pains. That is why you usually hire them to entry level roles, do not give them a lot of responsibility at first, and as they prove themselves and rise to the occasion, you begin to expand their role.

That is also why many organizations assign mentors and colleagues to help onboard and get these entry level employees acclimated. When they don’t, management creates a prescriptive plan for areas of improvement. Why should that be any different in the NBA? Especially when you have players inking multi year contracts and thus the org has no choice but to see the player through their entire contract.

As such, you can take a nurturing approach like a parent or mentor/leader, or take a punitive approach like a boss. Either way, when a player does. Or have it in them to do it themselves, then you need to employ tactics and measures to nudge players in the right direction and/or hold players accountable to show up and put in the work every day. How do you suggest Spo go about it?

Have you ever managed guys straight out of the military? I have 2 ex-military greenies. Never seen such whining Karens as bad as these guys. DOn't know how they dealt with CO's getting on their case. Heck, during the recession, I once managed a team of 6 guys on work release from Prison who complained a heck of a lot less.

[MettaWorldPanda]

We really need some extra big help. Can’t go into the season with just Bam, Ware, and Jovic. Need a tough rebounding vet that can hit a 3. Vucevic is ideal.

[Hoops3355]

We really need some extra big help. Can’t go into the season with just Bam, Ware, and Jovic. Need a tough rebounding vet that can hit a 3. Vucevic is ideal.

Vucevic probably does make a lot of sense at this point to be honest. He's so slow. I go to Bulls games on the regular and I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Love was quicker j/king but it's would be close. Imo he does work hard and tends to be a good locker room guy from what I've read.

[TroubleS0me]

Spo was talking and Ware responded 21pts

[MettaWorldPanda]

Read on Twitter

Looks like Jaime was there with Bam. Luka next to Rui in the photo. I don’t think Bam was recruiting Luka lol

[greg4012]

We really need some extra big help. Can’t go into the season with just Bam, Ware, and Jovic. Need a tough rebounding vet that can hit a 3. Vucevic is ideal.

Develop the youth.

People are going overboard giving up on Ware and I think it's silly AF.

[greg4012]

Read on Twitter

Looks like Jaime was there with Bam. Luka next to Rui in the photo. I don’t think Bam was recruiting Luka lol

The same Rui rumored to be in every trade package for LA?

[MettaWorldPanda]

We really need some extra big help. Can’t go into the season with just Bam, Ware, and Jovic. Need a tough rebounding vet that can hit a 3. Vucevic is ideal.

Develop the youth.

People are going overboard giving up on Ware and I think it's silly AF.

Not saying not to continue to develop the youth. We have no depth in case someone gets banged up. One injury to Jovic last year resulted in a 10 game losing streak. We are one injury away to having Highsmith back in the front court rotation.

[greg4012]

We really need some extra big help. Can’t go into the season with just Bam, Ware, and Jovic. Need a tough rebounding vet that can hit a 3. Vucevic is ideal.

Develop the youth.

People are going overboard giving up on Ware and I think it's silly AF.

Not saying not to continue to develop the youth. We have no depth in case someone gets banged up. One injury to Jovic last year resulted in a 10 game losing streak. We are one injury away to having Highsmith back in the front court rotation.

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Develop the youth.

People are going overboard giving up on Ware and I think it's silly AF.

Not saying not to continue to develop the youth. We have no depth in case someone gets banged up. One injury to Jovic last year resulted in a 10 game losing streak. We are one injury away to having Highsmith back in the front court rotation.

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?

[greg4012]

Not saying not to continue to develop the youth. We have no depth in case someone gets banged up. One injury to Jovic last year resulted in a 10 game losing streak. We are one injury away to having Highsmith back in the front court rotation.

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?

Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Looks like Jaime was there with Bam. Luka next to Rui in the photo. I don’t think Bam was recruiting Luka lol

I mean we saw a lot of videos with the 2 of them handing out I’m sure they talked about the idea of playing together. If we’re judging off that photo looks like Banchero was recruiting Bam to fill their hole at C Luka could’ve also been recruiting Bam, or who knows, maybe they all just chilled over the weekend lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case

[MettaWorldPanda]

August is going to be a big month for contract extensions. Doncic and Fox are the big dominoes that are scheduled to be eligible to sign extensions in a few more weeks.

https://www.si.com/nba/lakers/news/lakers-could-set-up-luka-doncic-to-sign-massive-406-million-extension

[DayofMourning]

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?

Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

I hope so. Throw him into the fire. Unless hes just **** up left and right, he should get PT.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?

Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

If we don’t get a big this summer in a terry and/or Wiggins trade this summer I think the spot is Goldins. Hes an older guy who just plays hard and scrappy, they’ll take that as their 4th big. Hes not going to play unless someone is out anyways we’re going to run with Bam/Ware/Jovic as our only 3 bigs in the rotation with Bam operating as the backup center

[MettaWorldPanda]

Read on Twitter

Looks like Jaime was there with Bam. Luka next to Rui in the photo. I don’t think Bam was recruiting Luka lol

I mean we saw a lot of videos with the 2 of them handing out I’m sure they talked about the idea of playing together. If we’re judging off that photo looks like Banchero was recruiting Bam to fill their hole at C Luka could’ve also been recruiting Bam, or who knows, maybe they all just chilled over the weekend lol

I’m under the notion it was a corporate party and they were all just having a good time. Maybe a jokingly come play for the Heat could have came out but maybe not. Just a bunch of rich dudes drinking and having a good time. Zion was also there too probably killing all the platter trays.

[Voltron914]

This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?

Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

it seems like he would be the best cheapest option for this team unless a buyout big becomes available.did they resign Burks or is there no money for him?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

August is going to be a big month for contract extensions. Doncic and Fox are the big dominoes that are scheduled to be eligible to sign extensions in a few more weeks.

https://www.si.com/nba/lakers/news/lakers-could-set-up-luka-doncic-to-sign-massive-406-million-extension

Lukas definitely the main domino, I have a strong feeling that Fox extension isn’t coming though and if it does it tell me the Spurs are sending 1 of Harper/Castle out in a big trade sometime within the next year or 2.