Victor Oladipo attempting NBA comeback

[Sgt Major]

Tweeting like Isaiah Thomas.

[OrlandoMagic198]

I guess he ran out of money

[NO-KG-AI]

When is the last time one of these type of comebacks worked?

Jordan with Washington, I'd imagine, though that wasn't injury-prompted.

Derrick Rose had a pretty viable career after. He was a journeyman, he didn't play a lot of games, but he made it work for like a decade.

I meant more like the Jordan one, where guys sat out and came back years later when they were pretty old.

But like you mentioned earlier, Jordan wasn’t already injured and sucking. I just feel like we always hear about these every few years, and the guys never even come back as rotation players

[tsherkin]

I meant more like the Jordan one, where guys sat out and came back years later when they were pretty old.

Bob Cousy had a brief little return about 7 years after he first retired. Came back for Cincinnati, played 7 games at age 41, sucked a lot of ass. Magic, obviously, had like half a season return in 96 before Malone and everyone else bitching about his HIV caused him to retire. Shame, too, because next season, Shaq hit the Lakers in FA.

But like you mentioned earlier, Jordan wasn’t already injured and sucking. I just feel like we always hear about these every few years, and the guys never even come back as rotation players

Yep. Once you're done, you're pretty done. Especially if you're a guard who relied on athleticism and never had really major mid-range game or shooting ability as a calling card, and no real size.

[PlatinumState]

Come on man, just let it go.

[LePeekaboo]

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Sounds like he could use some cash the way he’s hyping himself up.

[NO-KG-AI]

I meant more like the Jordan one, where guys sat out and came back years later when they were pretty old.

Bob Cousy had a brief little return about 7 years after he first retired. Came back for Cincinnati, played 7 games at age 41, sucked a lot of ass. Magic, obviously, had like half a season return in 96 before Malone and everyone else bitching about his HIV caused him to retire. Shame, too, because next season, Shaq hit the Lakers in FA.

But like you mentioned earlier, Jordan wasn’t already injured and sucking. I just feel like we always hear about these every few years, and the guys never even come back as rotation players

Yep. Once you're done, you're pretty done. Especially if you're a guard who relied on athleticism and never had really major mid-range game or shooting ability as a calling card, and no real size.

So basically it’s had a modicum of success if you’re an absolute all time great or pioneer of the sport. Not looking good for Vic

[tsherkin]

So basically it’s had a modicum of success if you’re an absolute all time great or pioneer of the sport. Not looking good for Vic

Essentially, yeah. And again, Oladipo's only real gripping element was his athleticism; once the injury and age took that, he was done for sure.

[Pantsman]

His explosiveness is gone and he isn’t a good 3 point shooter. There’s really no role for an undersized 2 guard that lost 3 steps and can’t shoot. Good luck in china.

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Sounds like he could use some cash the way he’s hyping himself up.

If you can't blind em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshyte.

[Pantsman]

I meant more like the Jordan one, where guys sat out and came back years later when they were pretty old.

Bob Cousy had a brief little return about 7 years after he first retired. Came back for Cincinnati, played 7 games at age 41, sucked a lot of ass. Magic, obviously, had like half a season return in 96 before Malone and everyone else bitching about his HIV caused him to retire. Shame, too, because next season, Shaq hit the Lakers in FA.

But like you mentioned earlier, Jordan wasn’t already injured and sucking. I just feel like we always hear about these every few years, and the guys never even come back as rotation players

Yep. Once you're done, you're pretty done. Especially if you're a guard who relied on athleticism and never had really major mid-range game or shooting ability as a calling card, and no real size.

I don’t know if you remember but magic was TERRIBLE that half a year with the Lakers. He couldn’t move. Couldn’t shoot. Demanded to start when he had no business even being in the league. And caused problems behind the scenes.

https://youtu.be/G_bJs-BPS6A?si=1PeK5FCsdOVQLWX1

[MrBigShot]

This is text book case of you never know what's around the corner, and maximise your value while you can. Turning down big money while you have all-star status was a big folly.


His case was worse then Nerlens Noel and Schröder imo.

Nerlens was almost comical, because he wasn't even NBA material at the time. Oladipo betted on himself like most would, but didn't realize his body wasn't built for big minutes in the NBA.

Definitely worse than Schröder, I agree, since Schröder redeemed himself and at least earned some of that money back.

It's that he did it not once, but twice. Turned down the big 100 mil contract, then gets injured and has another opportunity to lock in 20+ mil a year, which was a lot at the time, and turns it down again.

[tsherkin]

I don’t know if you remember but magic was TERRIBLE that half a year with the Lakers. He couldn’t move. Couldn’t shoot. Demanded to start when he had no business even being in the league. And caused problems behind the scenes.

He actually wasn't terrible. He was certainly rusty after years off, but despite playing the 4 and mostly coming off the bench, he was still about a 15/6/7 player in around 30 mpg, and on 61.2% TS.

And they were 22-10 with him, 31-19 without, which was a good +5, +6 pace when he played. That Ceballos and Van Exel were big bitches about it wasn't Magic's fault, nor anything but indictment of them.

The idea that he "had no business even being in the league" is insane.

[Black Jack]

This is text book case of you never know what's around the corner, and maximise your value while you can. Turning down big money while you have all-star status was a big folly.


His case was worse then Nerlens Noel and Schröder imo.

Add Kuminga to that list.

[Black Jack]

I don’t know if you remember but magic was TERRIBLE that half a year with the Lakers. He couldn’t move. Couldn’t shoot. Demanded to start when he had no business even being in the league. And caused problems behind the scenes.

He actually wasn't terrible. He was certainly rusty after years off, but despite playing the 4 and mostly coming off the bench, he was still about a 15/6/7 player in around 30 mpg, and on 61.2% TS.

And they were 22-10 with him, 31-19 without, which was a good +5, +6 pace when he played. That Ceballos and Van Exel were big bitches about it wasn't Magic's fault, nor anything but indictment of them.

The idea that he "had no business even being in the league" is insane.

Yeah Magic definitely had business being in the league. He was really good as a big actually, I remember watching.

[Mr Peanut]

The last time he played more than 42 games was in 2018. He sucked a lot of ass in his half-season with Miami in 2023.

He's toast. This is like the usual John Wall comeback stuff. He might play some games, but the odds of him being any good are pretty low. He's been dog-ass for more than his last 100 games in the league. That's not apt to change much from not playing the game for two years and being deeper into his 30s. Hell, he was crap in 2019 in a season where he was mystifyingly selected to the All-Star game.

This is going no place remarkable.

Have to give Oladipo props for training hard and doing his best to make a comeback, and I agree that he is washed and wouldn't be NBA quality at this stage of his career. However I think using the terms "sucked a lot of ass", "dog-ass" and "crap" to describe his play is pretty harsh. Even not being at NBA standard he would still do well in a lot of worldwide professional leagues if he chose to go in that direction.

[og15]

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Sounds like he could use some cash the way he’s hyping himself up.

If it's just money, it doesn't need to be the NBA

[tsherkin]

Have to give Oladipo props for training hard and doing his best to make a comeback, and I agree that he is washed and wouldn't be NBA quality at this stage of his career. However I think using the terms "sucked a lot of ass", "dog-ass" and "crap" to describe his play is pretty harsh. Even not being at NBA standard he would still do well in a lot of worldwide professional leagues if he chose to go in that direction.

I mean, he's got all kinds of incentive, and he's giving it, for sure.

But no, it wasn't overly harsh at all. He's been awful by NBA standards (in the outlined stretch), and standards other than NBA standards are entirely irrelevant to his play at the NBA level.

[tsherkin]

Yeah Magic definitely had business being in the league. He was really good as a big actually, I remember watching.

He had post game from way back. He developed his hook shots later on, but he had solid footwork and knew how to establish and hold position quite nicely. So it just matured with him, and it was never speed-based, so it maintained. He had size, touch, good body control, etc.

[Mr Peanut]

Have to give Oladipo props for training hard and doing his best to make a comeback, and I agree that he is washed and wouldn't be NBA quality at this stage of his career. However I think using the terms "sucked a lot of ass", "dog-ass" and "crap" to describe his play is pretty harsh. Even not being at NBA standard he would still do well in a lot of worldwide professional leagues if he chose to go in that direction.

I mean, he's got all kinds of incentive, and he's giving it, for sure.

But no, it wasn't overly harsh at all. He's been awful by NBA standards (in the outlined stretch), and standards other than NBA standards are entirely irrelevant to his play at the NBA level.

OK, I'll re-phrase that then. Using those specific terms to describe someone's basketball acumen comes across as disrespectful. I'd expect that verbiage from a teenager on NBA Twitter, and generally not from a poster on here (who also happens to be a forum moderator).