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Post#61 » by tontoz » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:55 am

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gambitx777 wrote:I do. He's good but is he a top 10 WR. No, I don't think you can put him up there with chance and Jefferson and lamb and ST brown. But he's good id say he's top 20. He's a #1 but not a #1 on more than half the teams in the league. I get the we have a R QB who cares pay him, but I don't agree with that at all. If you're a good GM and a good front office you have to do that all year round not just ignore it when you can cuz we have clean books . Id rather trade him than over pay him.

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I see it the complete opposite. Last year JD was a rookie with a weak left tackle and Terry still got 13 TDs. Now is the time when we can afford to overpay him because JD is on his rookie deal.

If we get rid of Terry we are punting on the season because we won't be able to find a number 1 option receiver now.


I hate the greed of players in the league.

McLaurin should know the Commanders want to build a dynasty with him as WR #1. He should know that part of the principles of building that dynasty is no massive overpays. The Commanders needs to have a Plan B and Plan C to pursue if Scary Terry turns into Selfish Terry.



This is going to be Terry's last big contract. His career has been playing on a crap team and still doing work. If we overpay him by 3-5 million per year so what? It would have no effect on the team at all.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread Pt. 2 

Post#62 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:06 am

I don't know crap about cap. If it doesn't detract from the master plan, fine.

I was against the Marshon Lattimore trade from day one. It cost picks and a bit of the cap and I say it proved to be a bad deal. I don't want McLaurin overpaid in potential injury or diminishing return years.

IMO the Commanders should give Terry a bit more than his fair market value but don't be stupid loyal. Respect his worth but play the long game.
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Post#63 » by DukeLecker » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:11 am

I say the skins should let Terry’s contract expire, franchise him one year, then let him walk as a 32 year old. I understand everyone loves Terry, but name me a WR, besides all time great HOF level WRs, that were still elite and worth $30-33MM at 32 or 33 years old?

Jayden is that good, he’ll make his wide receivers look great. Also, McLaurin had a good year last year, but 1096 yards over 17 games isn’t some incredible season. Anyone that plays fantasy knows TDs come and go. He’s just as likely to have 4, like he did in 2023, compared to the 13 he had last year.
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Post#64 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:42 am

If we could get Hendrickson ot watt for Terry even or even get some low level pics back id do that in a heart beat!

I can't see the bengles being wild enough to do that then pay Terry. They would be in guard-able but have zero defence.

They stealers need another WR and could afford to let Watt go.
You could then go shopping
Bring in gave Davis as an injury reclamation project he'll be sort cheap and he's only 26
Bring in Keenan Allen on a 1 year deal, he's pushing 33 and he's lost a step but he's savy and can still play ball. We have lane who's intering and Mcaffery who need to prove some stuff to us. Or just roll with the young guys debo and Gabe for get Allen.

That would be better than over paying Terry imo


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Post#65 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:29 pm

Elite QBs can make average WRs very good and very good WRs, great. Terry was very good, not great before Jayden. Definitely a number 1 and hope he is signed but he doesn’t deserve top 10 money. I do think his locker room presence is second to none though and is key critical for the short term success of this team. I still can’t believe the Bengals decided to keep Tee Higgins. Burrow doesn’t need him. Could plug and play some average to above average receivers with Chase and still destroy. Look at Pat, Brady, Rodgers etc. and what they worked with WR wise and who they helped turn into stars. The beauty and importance of having an elite franchise QB.
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Post#66 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:35 pm

gambitx777 wrote:If we could get Hendrickson ot watt for Terry even or even get some low level pics back id do that in a heart beat!

I can't see the bengles being wild enough to do that then pay Terry. They would be in guard-able but have zero defence.

They stealers need another WR and could afford to let Watt go.
You could then go shopping
Bring in gave Davis as an injury reclamation project he'll be sort cheap and he's only 26
Bring in Keenan Allen on a 1 year deal, he's pushing 33 and he's lost a step but he's savy and can still play ball. We have lane who's intering and Mcaffery who need to prove some stuff to us. Or just roll with the young guys debo and Gabe for get Allen.

That would be better than over paying Terry imo


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I still am a little upset we didn’t try to land DK. Jayden with a monster like that could literally just throw it up all day long. I do think we see a LSU WR out of Chase, Jefferson, Malik, or Brian Thomas join Jayden in the next few seasons. Chase signed the big deal, but that team is a power keg because of their poor roster management.
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Post#67 » by tontoz » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:58 pm

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Post#68 » by Dark Faze » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:11 pm

If he goes he goes. I'm trusting in Peters.
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Post#69 » by DukeLecker » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:55 pm

They say Terry not a diva, but he’s held out once and threatening to do it again. That’s a little divaish.

His age and numbers similar to Mike Evan’s who signed a 2/$41MM this offseason. If he wants Garrett Wilson $$ I hope he gets it, I just hope it’s with someone else.
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Post#70 » by Benjammin » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:02 am

Von Miller for the pass rush!
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Post#71 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:25 am

This is perfectly fine. Picking up Von for cheap and using him as spot situation guy is really solid. If he's our every down guy .... We might have trouble
But I'm hopeful.

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Post#72 » by Benjammin » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:24 pm

He will have to be used mostly on 3rd down passing situations to keep him healthy if possible.
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Post#73 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:29 pm

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Trade his prima donna ass.
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Post#74 » by tontoz » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:31 pm

Trey Amos signed. Funny that the commanders and wizards have rookies named Trey. Johnson should change the spelling of his first name to Trey for the obvious reason.
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Post#75 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:28 am

That rookie from the Bengals is threatening to re do the draft and I wonder if they would be willing to give him to us for cheap


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Post#76 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:53 pm

The wildest read I could think of is if they bengles wanna try and have the craziest offence of all time.

WC trade Terry and dorance Armstrong and 2027 first round pick.

For

Bengles andrei iosivas, Jermaine Burton, Hendrickson and shamar Stewart.
I hate trading firsts but this is a unique situation.
Iosivas and Burton are stuck in a long jam maybe they can be something in an open competition. Hendrickson wants out and paid. Stewart wants out.

So it's a first for Stewart and two young WR and Terry and Armstrong for Hendrickson. Which is probably a fair trade
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Post#77 » by DukeLecker » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:15 pm

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Trade his prima donna ass.

Couldn’t agree more. His press conference was embarrassing. Reeked of insecurity and was 30 minutes of him whining. My least favorite play of pro athletes is when they complain about disrespect when they’re currently under a contract they willing signed. He’s a diva. Two time hold out.

He’s a good WR, but with an elite QB he was 27th in the league in receiving yards per game. 19th in total catches. 30th in YPC. That’s not elite. He’s looking for elite money. Signing him to a huge contract feels like signing Brad Beal to a huge contract.
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Post#78 » by tontoz » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:26 pm

DukeLecker wrote:Couldn’t agree more. His press conference was embarrassing. Reeked of insecurity and was 30 minutes of him whining. My least favorite play of pro athletes is when they complain about disrespect when they’re currently under a contract they willing signed. He’s a diva. Two time hold out.

He’s a good WR, but with an elite QB he was 27th in the league in receiving yards per game. 19th in total catches. 30th in YPC. That’s not elite. He’s looking for elite money. Signing him to a huge contract feels like signing Brad Beal to a huge contract.



Those stats don't take into account that Jayden was a rookie quarterback and the game plans were very conservative early on. Not to mention the left tackle position was weak so Jayden had to get rid of the ball quickly much of the time. On the season Jayden was 16th in total yards passing.

Terry hasnt missed a game in years and has put up good numbers on a crap team with weak quarterbacks for years.
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Post#79 » by DukeLecker » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:47 pm

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DukeLecker wrote:Couldn’t agree more. His press conference was embarrassing. Reeked of insecurity and was 30 minutes of him whining. My least favorite play of pro athletes is when they complain about disrespect when they’re currently under a contract they willing signed. He’s a diva. Two time hold out.

He’s a good WR, but with an elite QB he was 27th in the league in receiving yards per game. 19th in total catches. 30th in YPC. That’s not elite. He’s looking for elite money. Signing him to a huge contract feels like signing Brad Beal to a huge contract.



Those stats don't take into account that Jayden was a rookie quarterback and the game plans were very conservative early on. Not to mention the left tackle position was weak so Jayden had to get rid of the ball quickly much of the time. On the season Jayden was 16th in total yards passing.

Terry hasnt missed a game in years and has put up good numbers on a crap team with weak quarterbacks for years.

These are good points. If Terry was open for a two year extension then I’d be all in. Three more years at ages 30-32. Sign me up. My feeling is he wants a 3-4 year extension where you’d be paying a 33/34 y.o. receiver top of the market money for what he’s done, not what he’s doing. Thats Dan Snyder level of cap management.
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Post#80 » by tontoz » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:58 pm

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DukeLecker wrote:Couldn’t agree more. His press conference was embarrassing. Reeked of insecurity and was 30 minutes of him whining. My least favorite play of pro athletes is when they complain about disrespect when they’re currently under a contract they willing signed. He’s a diva. Two time hold out.

He’s a good WR, but with an elite QB he was 27th in the league in receiving yards per game. 19th in total catches. 30th in YPC. That’s not elite. He’s looking for elite money. Signing him to a huge contract feels like signing Brad Beal to a huge contract.



Those stats don't take into account that Jayden was a rookie quarterback and the game plans were very conservative early on. Not to mention the left tackle position was weak so Jayden had to get rid of the ball quickly much of the time. On the season Jayden was 16th in total yards passing.

Terry hasnt missed a game in years and has put up good numbers on a crap team with weak quarterbacks for years.

These are good points. If Terry was open for a two year extension then I’d be all in. Three more years at ages 30-32. Sign me up. My feeling is he wants a 3-4 year extension where you’d be paying a 33/34 y.o. receiver top of the market money for what he’s done, not what he’s doing. Thats Dan Snyder level of cap management.



That's just it, we don't know what he is asking for or what they are offering. Having a strong opinion one way or another doesn't make much sense given the lack of info.
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