Lalouie wrote:Bloodbather wrote:Player A) Averages 50 PPG, 13 RPG, 12 APG, 3 BPG, 3 SPG for a season and wins the title as a rookie. Thinks he has completed basketball and gets bored with it, but still has to play to make money, and averages around 16 PPG, 5 RPG, 4 APG, 1 BPG, 1 SPG and half-asses things on defense for seven more seasons to collect a paycheck and retires.
Player B) Averages around 20 PPG, 5 RPG, 5, APG, 1 BPG, 1 SPG on decent efficiency for 30 seasons. Decent defender, also. Still puts up around 15-4-4 on decent efficiency in his late 40s. Plays 70+ games every season during that run. Has won 6 titles in total, being no more than a third option in any of them.
Who ranks higher on an all-time list?
actually a very unbalanced comparison heavily weighted towards the steady player as he virtually has NO faults while the other dude has only ONE SEASON
i mean,,,30seasons which is three generations versus one stinking one-hit wonder season. where in life does the one hit wonder get any recognition whatsoever.
howz about making playerB a bench playing journeyman good enuf that everyone wants but not good enuf to keep and always in the trade discussions with SLIGHTLY BELOW LEAGUE AVERAGE efficiency instead of "decent".....and give playerA 2rings at least so'z he meant something to the game instead of being a footnote in the reference section of wiki
i mean, you've painted a picture of a 3x hof candidate versus fodder for 30for30
Fodder? We're talking about a player who blows away all other player seasons in the entire history of sports. Yes, we're talking about a one hit wonder, but it's as if that hit is far and away the most popular song of all time.
Player A shouldn't be thought of like any other one hit wonder. You should be thinking of them as someone who made THE greatest hit of all time. An accomplishment that would be talked about forever.
Likewise, Player B isn't just any well respected long lived player. 30 years would far exceed any current longevity records. Averaging starter level stats well into their 40s would be something that only Lebron has a chance to do in real life.
Another example I just came up with is from baseball. Consider Dwight Gooden and Tommy John (the guy who has a surgical procedure name after him). I was about to use Nolan Ryan, but Nolan Ryan had too many excellent years that I didn't think would fit the archetype.
Dwight Gooden was a dominant pitcher right away winning ROY his first year, CYA his second year and the World Series his 3rd year. He dropped off in production soon after that having dealt with drugs and injuries.
Tommy John was known for his longevity and for being the first MLB pitcher to undergo what is now known as Tommy John surgery midway through his career. Post surgery Tommy played another 14 seasons and had the best stretch of his career in his mid 30s. The only thing that doesn't match up is that Tommy John never won a World Series and Player B is a multi champion.
