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Fierce1 wrote:fallguy wrote:White-Pritchard-Simons is too small.
Isiah Thomas-Joe Dumars-Vinnie Johnson
darrendaye wrote:So what's a long enough time to wait before calling BS on the trade is close "leak" we were handed? I believe that was Wednesday.
fallguy wrote:darrendaye wrote:So what's a long enough time to wait before calling BS on the trade is close "leak" we were handed? I believe that was Wednesday.
Not totally sure that's what ddb meant. Might have been but he'll have to clarify when he's next around.
darrendaye wrote:fallguy wrote:darrendaye wrote:So what's a long enough time to wait before calling BS on the trade is close "leak" we were handed? I believe that was Wednesday.
Not totally sure that's what ddb meant. Might have been but he'll have to clarify when he's next around.
I agree, it was typed in jest. He's legit. But I recognize it was open to interpretation as well. And even if he did mean it that way, things can get misinterpreted in the game of telephone with those things. I just thought it could be an interesting spin to try to get opinions on what the due date on that type of stuff was for them. It is tonight for me, at least the 1st threshold to cast significant doubt/dismissal.
redslastlaugh wrote:I was looking at hoopshype at the 2025 2nd round picks who've signed standard contracts (Kam Jones, Rasheer Flemind, etc) and the 2025-26 salary figure for these signees is $1.28 million.
One thing that still doesn't make sense to me, with us being so strapped financially, is wouldn't the easiest way to save on the margins be to sign some draftees to an NBA contract. This goes beyond questioning, "Why didn't Brad just keep pick #32 and take Kalkbrenner or Raynaud" but like if we had just signed Amari Williams and Max Shulga ($1.27 + $1.27) to the roster spots that we signed Josh Minott and Luka Garza to wouldn't we have saved over $2 million?
Because I do some trade math on various suggested trades, and a lot of these hypothetical deals that move Hauser, Niang, Simons etc that after we get players back we're still ending up $250k - $2.5 million over the tax. And, if the math is so tight, why are we not just signing our picks but instead signing veteran FAs?
Seems like just that extra $2 million we spent on Minott and Garza is really going to come into play for getting under the tax.
darrendaye wrote:fallguy wrote:darrendaye wrote:So what's a long enough time to wait before calling BS on the trade is close "leak" we were handed? I believe that was Wednesday.
Not totally sure that's what ddb meant. Might have been but he'll have to clarify when he's next around.
I agree, it was typed in jest. He's legit. But I recognize it was open to interpretation as well. And even if he did mean it that way, things can get misinterpreted in the game of telephone with those things. I just thought it could be an interesting spin to try to get opinions on what the due date on that type of stuff was for them. It is tonight for me, at least the 1st threshold to cast significant doubt/dismissal.
fallguy wrote:Fierce1 wrote:fallguy wrote:White-Pritchard-Simons is too small.
Isiah Thomas-Joe Dumars-Vinnie Johnson
Awesome. All we need is for one of our guys to turn into a top-10 player like Zeke was and then turn the clock back 35 years to when guards were smaller and we're in business.
Hal14 wrote:fallguy wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Isiah Thomas-Joe Dumars-Vinnie Johnson
Awesome. All we need is for one of our guys to turn into a top-10 player like Zeke was and then turn the clock back 35 years to when guards were smaller and we're in business.
It's reductive to just look at a guy's listed height and think that's all that matters in terms of how "big" he plays.
-Pritchard is one of the best rebounding guards in the league. Has a timing for getting rebounds and a tenacity to get them. He's also extremely strong for a player of his size, so plays bigger than listed height
-Simons, is bounce, athletic, won the dunk contest. Has a 6'9" wingspan..plays bigger than his listed height
-White is a better shot blocker than like half the centers in the league. 6'8" wingspan, is 6'4"..is basically same size as Josh Hart, who often plays PF for the Knicks
These 3 guys likely won't be on the floor all at the same time very much..but if they are, we'll be ok. Instead of worrying about us being too small, other teams should worry about how they will defend a lineup with this much quickness, ball handling and shooting.
bucknersrevenge wrote:Interesting to see so many feel like Charles Bassey is still an option. I would've figured that we would've signed him by now if he was coming. Kinda thinking that ship has sailed.
165bows wrote:bucknersrevenge wrote:Interesting to see so many feel like Charles Bassey is still an option. I would've figured that we would've signed him by now if he was coming. Kinda thinking that ship has sailed.
He might be ok but Queta or Garza would also annihilate summer league. It’s not that high a bar.
redslastlaugh wrote:I was looking at hoopshype at the 2025 2nd round picks who've signed standard contracts (Kam Jones, Rasheer Flemind, etc) and the 2025-26 salary figure for these signees is $1.28 million.
One thing that still doesn't make sense to me, with us being so strapped financially, is wouldn't the easiest way to save on the margins be to sign some draftees to an NBA contract. This goes beyond questioning, "Why didn't Brad just keep pick #32 and take Kalkbrenner or Raynaud" but like if we had just signed Amari Williams and Max Shulga ($1.27 + $1.27) to the roster spots that we signed Josh Minott and Luka Garza to wouldn't we have saved over $2 million?
Because I do some trade math on various suggested trades, and a lot of these hypothetical deals that move Hauser, Niang, Simons etc that after we get players back we're still ending up $250k - $2.5 million over the tax. And, if the math is so tight, why are we not just signing our picks but instead signing veteran FAs?
Seems like just that extra $2 million we spent on Minott and Garza is really going to come into play for getting under the tax.
celtxman wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:I was looking at hoopshype at the 2025 2nd round picks who've signed standard contracts (Kam Jones, Rasheer Flemind, etc) and the 2025-26 salary figure for these signees is $1.28 million.
One thing that still doesn't make sense to me, with us being so strapped financially, is wouldn't the easiest way to save on the margins be to sign some draftees to an NBA contract. This goes beyond questioning, "Why didn't Brad just keep pick #32 and take Kalkbrenner or Raynaud" but like if we had just signed Amari Williams and Max Shulga ($1.27 + $1.27) to the roster spots that we signed Josh Minott and Luka Garza to wouldn't we have saved over $2 million?
Because I do some trade math on various suggested trades, and a lot of these hypothetical deals that move Hauser, Niang, Simons etc that after we get players back we're still ending up $250k - $2.5 million over the tax. And, if the math is so tight, why are we not just signing our picks but instead signing veteran FAs?
Seems like just that extra $2 million we spent on Minott and Garza is really going to come into play for getting under the tax.
He either disliked both Kalkbrenner and Raynaud, or he has his eye on something or both. Lots of other teams passed on these guys, so there's that. But you can't have enough good big men, so this has a chance to look bad on what would have been a small cost.
Celts17Pride wrote:celtxman wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:I was looking at hoopshype at the 2025 2nd round picks who've signed standard contracts (Kam Jones, Rasheer Flemind, etc) and the 2025-26 salary figure for these signees is $1.28 million.
Seems like just that extra $2 million we spent on Minott and Garza is really going to come into play for getting under the tax.
He either disliked both Kalkbrenner and Raynaud, or he has his eye on something or both. Lots of other teams passed on these guys, so there's that. But you can't have enough good big men, so this has a chance to look bad on what would have been a small cost.
Not to mention that neither Williams or Shulga deserve a roster spot
bucknersrevenge wrote:Interesting to see so many feel like Charles Bassey is still an option. I would've figured that we would've signed him by now if he was coming. Kinda thinking that ship has sailed.
Celts17Pride wrote:165bows wrote:bucknersrevenge wrote:Interesting to see so many feel like Charles Bassey is still an option. I would've figured that we would've signed him by now if he was coming. Kinda thinking that ship has sailed.
He might be ok but Queta or Garza would also annihilate summer league. It’s not that high a bar.
Yet Ben Simmons would have still averaged 3pg, 3rpg and 3apg.
165bows wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:165bows wrote:He might be ok but Queta or Garza would also annihilate summer league. It’s not that high a bar.
Yet Ben Simmons would have still averaged 3pg, 3rpg and 3apg.
I’m not a big Simmons guy, if he comes here and somehow works out, great, but I’m not expecting or looking for it. Just seems like he’s never really been into it.