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Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1281 » by Norseman79 » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:23 pm

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Norseman79 wrote:It's amazing how many player that gets mentioned as a possible PG just gets shredded on here. First up, we are at the point where an avg starter would likely be an upgrade...avg. Next, Wolves have 1 star, 1, it's Edwards. People can talk up Randle, Rudy, Etc all they want, but it's Edwards and then a big gap. The idea of giving up Randle, Rudy, etc to get a starting PG might be a shell game in some ways, but it's not like our current team's floor would change that much if we did something (obviously not stupid like Gobert for Tyus Jones type of stuff). This player's efficiency, that players shot, this player's size, that player's defense.....my God, you aren't getting a perfect player back and Randle, Rudy, etc aren't getting you a top 5 or 10 guy, unless there is a big concern.

I would make a push to get a Simons/Hauser package done, and I would use Randle/DD to do it. I know people hate Simons, I'm just telling you I think he unlocks with Finch playing next to Edwards.

I'm going to continue the shredding of the possible PGs. Simon's is virtually worthless and you're talking about giving up our 2nd star and one of the best volume 3 point shooters in the NBA to get him??????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Guessing you don't know who Sam Hauser is? Simons would be better next to Ant than Randle is, and I will stand by that.

Simons would snipe next to Edwards and also be able to create for himself. He basically averaged 5 asst per game last year on that awful Portland team, it jumps to 8 here and likely to cut down on turnovers too
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1282 » by BlacJacMac » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:40 pm

TimberKat wrote:
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cmoss84 wrote:I'm just not ready to compare Rob to a 25/10 PG who can shoot. Hunt him down...as opposed to Mike and Rob?
Center can be creatively taken care of...
Goga
JB
Naz
Randle
Jaden
2ways


Yes. Mike spent most of his career as a solid defender despite his size. And Rob actually puts in considerable effort on that end. He'll get better as he learns technique.

Young is a true turnstile. One of the worst defenders in the game.

And he's a 42/35 shooter because he has horrific shot selection.

I am not sure in what context would we prefer Dilly over Young. We aren't talking about keep SGA instead of PG. Young is also not Beal either. If we could get him to pair with Ant, I am sure we could find a way to build around them.


In no context...

The context is giving up Rudy, DDV and Dilly.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1283 » by TimberKat » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:06 pm

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TimberKat wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Yes. Mike spent most of his career as a solid defender despite his size. And Rob actually puts in considerable effort on that end. He'll get better as he learns technique.

Young is a true turnstile. One of the worst defenders in the game.

And he's a 42/35 shooter because he has horrific shot selection.

I am not sure in what context would we prefer Dilly over Young. We aren't talking about keep SGA instead of PG. Young is also not Beal either. If we could get him to pair with Ant, I am sure we could find a way to build around them.


In no context...

The context is giving up Rudy, DDV and Dilly.

I am a Rudy fan but will take it. I prefer to give up Randle instead. However, if that is what it takes, we will figure a way to juice up Joan.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1284 » by cmoss84 » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:12 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Yes. Mike spent most of his career as a solid defender despite his size. And Rob actually puts in considerable effort on that end. He'll get better as he learns technique.

Young is a true turnstile. One of the worst defenders in the game.

And he's a 42/35 shooter because he has horrific shot selection.

I am not sure in what context would we prefer Dilly over Young. We aren't talking about keep SGA instead of PG. Young is also not Beal either. If we could get him to pair with Ant, I am sure we could find a way to build around them.


In no context...

The context is giving up Rudy, DDV and Dilly.


Hold the phone.
The context is giving up Rudy, DDV, and RD
for
Young, Goga, and '26 FRP
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1285 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:27 am

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:It's amazing how many player that gets mentioned as a possible PG just gets shredded on here. First up, we are at the point where an avg starter would likely be an upgrade...avg. Next, Wolves have 1 star, 1, it's Edwards. People can talk up Randle, Rudy, Etc all they want, but it's Edwards and then a big gap. The idea of giving up Randle, Rudy, etc to get a starting PG might be a shell game in some ways, but it's not like our current team's floor would change that much if we did something (obviously not stupid like Gobert for Tyus Jones type of stuff). This player's efficiency, that players shot, this player's size, that player's defense.....my God, you aren't getting a perfect player back and Randle, Rudy, etc aren't getting you a top 5 or 10 guy, unless there is a big concern.

I would make a push to get a Simons/Hauser package done, and I would use Randle/DD to do it. I know people hate Simons, I'm just telling you I think he unlocks with Finch playing next to Edwards.

I'm going to continue the shredding of the possible PGs. Simon's is virtually worthless and you're talking about giving up our 2nd star and one of the best volume 3 point shooters in the NBA to get him??????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Guessing you don't know who Sam Hauser is? Simons would be better next to Ant than Randle is, and I will stand by that.

Simons would snipe next to Edwards and also be able to create for himself. He basically averaged 5 asst per game last year on that awful Portland team, it jumps to 8 here and likely to cut down on turnovers too

Neither IMO is on the level of either Randle or DDV.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1286 » by Norseman79 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:02 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm going to continue the shredding of the possible PGs. Simon's is virtually worthless and you're talking about giving up our 2nd star and one of the best volume 3 point shooters in the NBA to get him??????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Guessing you don't know who Sam Hauser is? Simons would be better next to Ant than Randle is, and I will stand by that.

Simons would snipe next to Edwards and also be able to create for himself. He basically averaged 5 asst per game last year on that awful Portland team, it jumps to 8 here and likely to cut down on turnovers too

Neither IMO is on the level of either Randle or DDV.


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1287 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 2:35 am

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
Guessing you don't know who Sam Hauser is? Simons would be better next to Ant than Randle is, and I will stand by that.

Simons would snipe next to Edwards and also be able to create for himself. He basically averaged 5 asst per game last year on that awful Portland team, it jumps to 8 here and likely to cut down on turnovers too

Neither IMO is on the level of either Randle or DDV.


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.

I prefer Randle and DDV. If you prefer Simons and Hauser that's your choice.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1288 » by Norseman79 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:24 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Neither IMO is on the level of either Randle or DDV.


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.

I prefer Randle and DDV. If you prefer Simons and Hauser that's your choice.


I completely respect that take, and agree with your right to that view. You could also be right! You usually have good takes
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1289 » by Slim Tubby » Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:38 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Neither IMO is on the level of either Randle or DDV.


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.

I prefer Randle and DDV. If you prefer Simons and Hauser that's your choice.
If it was Simons and Pritchard for Randle/DDV, it would at least be worthy of a discussion.

I'm really not a fan of Simons and the target should be White considering the value we're giving up IMO.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1290 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:25 am

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.

I prefer Randle and DDV. If you prefer Simons and Hauser that's your choice.


I completely respect that take, and agree with your right to that view. You could also be right! You usually have good takes

Thank you. Honestly I didn't follow the NBA nearly as much as I normally do last year so I'm sure you're more up to date on the players than I am. Last I checked if I'm thinking of the right guy Hauser was an 8th man for Boston. Simon's was an offensively gifted SG for Portland that couldn't stay healthy. I looked at your links and came to the conclusions that I did. Thanks for the effort.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1291 » by cmoss84 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:30 am

Late night stoner trade:

Atl IN: Rudy
Atl OUT: KP and 2 FRPs

Boston IN: DDV, Mike, RD, 2 FRPs
Boston OUT: White and Neemias Queta

MN IN: KP, White, and Neemias
MN OUT: Rudy, DDV, RD, Mike

White. Ant. Jaden. Julius. KP.
TSJ/Naz/JB
Leaves just enough $ for 2 min contracts.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1292 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:31 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/donte-divincenzo-1628978/sam-hauser-1630573

Swapping out DD for a bigger shooter works


https://fanspo.com/nba/compare-players/julius-randle-203944/anfernee-simons-1629014

To be clear, I would expect Simons' numbers to only go up, hard to argue otherwise.

I prefer Randle and DDV. If you prefer Simons and Hauser that's your choice.
If it was Simons and Pritchard for Randle/DDV, it would at least be worthy of a discussion.

I'm really not a fan of Simons and the target should be White considering the value we're giving up IMO.

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So many of these trade proposals I just see as trades for the sake of making trades. This is the trade thread so I understand people just throwing out a bunch of ideas. It's been a while since I saw one that makes sense to me.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1293 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:37 am

cmoss84 wrote:Late night stoner trade:

Atl IN: Rudy
Atl OUT: KP and 2 FRPs

Boston IN: DDV, Mike, RD, 2 FRPs
Boston OUT: White and Neemias Queta

MN IN: KP, White, and Neemias
MN OUT: Rudy, DDV, RD, Mike

White. Ant. Jaden. Julius. KP.
TSJ/Naz/JB
Leaves just enough $ for 2 min contracts.

If Zinger could stay healthy I'd agree to this deal, but he never does. Upon further examination Zinger is on a one year contract before becoming a UFA so this becomes a salary dump for Rudy.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1294 » by minimus » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:12 am

According to league sources, Boston is still exploring trade options involving recently acquired Anfernee Simons, who became a Celtic as part of the deal that sent Holiday to Portland


So basically BOS want to unload Anfernee Simons contract, but no one in NBA wants to take it even for free.

source Marc Stein https://marcstein.substack.com/p/sunday-best-the-latest-hottest-and
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1295 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:05 pm

minimus wrote:
According to league sources, Boston is still exploring trade options involving recently acquired Anfernee Simons, who became a Celtic as part of the deal that sent Holiday to Portland


So basically BOS want to unload Anfernee Simons contract, but no one in NBA wants to take it even for free.

source Marc Stein https://marcstein.substack.com/p/sunday-best-the-latest-hottest-and

That link brought me to some stuff about Luka Doncic. Nothing about Simons.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1296 » by Wolveswin » Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:43 pm

How do folks feel about Maxey as a fit at guard next to Edwards? Do Wolves have the assets to make it happen?

To Pistons: Randle/DDV

To 76ers: Dilly/Holland/Tobias/Beringer/Wolves 2nds

To Wolves: Maxey/Oubre/Drummond/6ers filler

Gobert/Drummond
Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/Oubre
Edwards/Maxey/Shannon
Maxey/Conley
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1297 » by Norseman79 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:48 pm

Wolveswin wrote:How do folks feel about Maxey as a fit at guard next to Edwards? Do Wolves have the assets to make it happen?

To Pistons: Randle/DDV

To 76ers: Dilly/Holland/Tobias/Beringer/Wolves 2nds

To Wolves: Maxey/Oubre/Drummond/6ers filler

Gobert/Drummond
Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/Oubre
Edwards/Maxey/Shannon
Maxey/Conley


I'm going to guess that Maxey is likely untouchable.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1298 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:16 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:How do folks feel about Maxey as a fit at guard next to Edwards? Do Wolves have the assets to make it happen?

To Pistons: Randle/DDV

To 76ers: Dilly/Holland/Tobias/Beringer/Wolves 2nds

To Wolves: Maxey/Oubre/Drummond/6ers filler

Gobert/Drummond
Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/Oubre
Edwards/Maxey/Shannon
Maxey/Conley


I'm going to guess that Maxey is likely untouchable.

And I consider Le Berricade almost untouchable.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1299 » by Slim Tubby » Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:41 pm

Wolveswin wrote:How do folks feel about Maxey as a fit at guard next to Edwards? Do Wolves have the assets to make it happen?

To Pistons: Randle/DDV

To 76ers: Dilly/Holland/Tobias/Beringer/Wolves 2nds

To Wolves: Maxey/Oubre/Drummond/6ers filler

Gobert/Drummond
Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/Oubre
Edwards/Maxey/Shannon
Maxey/Conley
I'd much rather have Maxey over LaMelo. The return seems very light for PHI unless they also move Embiid and go for a total rebuild. Holland shows great promise, JB has tons of untapped potential and we're all hoping that Dilly can at least reach the level of a guy like Fox.

In the end, my guess is it will require a good young player and at least two (2) FRP's to pry away Maxey.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning 

Post#1300 » by cmoss84 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:36 pm

I do like the Maxey idea.

Atl IN: Rudy
76ers IN: Daniels, Bufkin, DDV, and RD
MN IN: Maxey and Okongwu
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