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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Bucks Open against Middleton/Sign Coffey to Camp Deal 

Post#601 » by DanoMac » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:03 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:No one is writing off a 21 year old guy


He's 20 not 21. He was a 5 star, number 8 overall recruit. Great size & skillset. Giannis had nothing but great things to say about him last year.

Took Larry Sanders a few years to figure it out after looking godawful his first 3 years. Writing any 19-20 year old off after 1 year is absurd
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Post#602 » by fansinceforever » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:33 pm

I guess this is a nice depth signing.
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Post#603 » by Dick Tate » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:39 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:It would be irresponsible to waive him because Smith's contract is guaranteed through the 26-27 season. He's trade-filler.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/91762/tyler-smith
Isnt it non-guaranteed next year? I'm not a fan of waiving him now but there is opportunity cost to it (not a huge one, but i also dont see a huge upside either)..

Thx. I don't get why that wasn't just listed as a Team option.
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Post#604 » by DingusBojangles » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:56 pm

Dick Tate wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:It would be irresponsible to waive him because Smith's contract is guaranteed through the 26-27 season. He's trade-filler.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/91762/tyler-smith
Isnt it non-guaranteed next year? I'm not a fan of waiving him now but there is opportunity cost to it (not a huge one, but i also dont see a huge upside either)..

Thx. I don't get why that wasn't just listed as a Team option.

Because it's not a team option. Different things in the CBA.
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Post#605 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:40 pm

DanoMac wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:No one is writing off a 21 year old guy


He's 20 not 21. He was a 5 star, number 8 overall recruit. Great size & skillset. Giannis had nothing but great things to say about him last year.

Took Larry Sanders a few years to figure it out after looking godawful his first 3 years. Writing any 19-20 year old off after 1 year is absurd

Sorry, I rounded up since he will be 21 at the start of the season.
Giannis probably has a more biased, flawed judge of talent than anyone on this board. He's been saying great things about every guy he has played with including his brothers who are going to be better than him. Dude was a second round pick. By the time the bucks drafted him he had all already lost some of that 5-star recruit shine otherwise he would've been a lottery pick. He followed that up with a poor rookie year. He's just a lottery ticket like most second round picks where 95% of them never become a rational player.

Honestly what kind of odds are you putting he becomes an average NBA starter? Is there something special you see in him and what is it?

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Post#606 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:06 pm

DanoMac wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:No one is writing off a 21 year old guy


He's 20 not 21. He was a 5 star, number 8 overall recruit. Great size & skillset. Giannis had nothing but great things to say about him last year.

Took Larry Sanders a few years to figure it out after looking godawful his first 3 years. Writing any 19-20 year old off after 1 year is absurd


It's not writing him off, just resign him to a 2 way deal. No one is claiming him. He was bad in the G League, and then useless in Summer League. Don't carry G Leaguers on the 15 man roster, use 2 way contracts for what they're meant for.
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Post#607 » by Big Dog Yank » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:08 pm

emunney wrote:I can't remember who on here made the joke that Ramon Sessions sounds like the name of a Steely Dan album, but it's still the first thing that hits my brain whenever he comes up.


As a huge fan of both the Bucks and the Dan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I asked chatgpt to write a song about Ramon Sessions like Steely Dan would. Not too shabby...

Verse 1
Cold cream moon on Wisconsin Ave
Back-alley sax where the long shots have
The BC floor glowing in that red and green hue
Twenty gold dimes like the prophets knew

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Verse 2
Green and cream nights, the fans liked him badly
Baseline magic at the Center of Bradley
Took the rock downtown, fed the paint like wine
Every cut was a beat in a perfect line

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Bridge
Numbers on the glass like a jazzman’s score
Ten in the first, and he’s begging for more
Swapped his Nikes for a sharkskin tan
In the alley behind with the On Time Man

Outro
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Post#608 » by midranger » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:31 pm

Big Dog Yank wrote:
emunney wrote:I can't remember who on here made the joke that Ramon Sessions sounds like the name of a Steely Dan album, but it's still the first thing that hits my brain whenever he comes up.


As a huge fan of both the Bucks and the Dan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I asked chatgpt to write a song about Ramon Sessions like Steely Dan would. Not too shabby...

Verse 1
Cold cream moon on Wisconsin Ave
Back-alley sax where the long shots have
The BC floor glowing in that red and green hue
Twenty gold dimes like the prophets knew

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Verse 2
Green and cream nights, the fans liked him badly
Baseline magic at the Center of Bradley
Took the rock downtown, fed the paint like wine
Every cut was a beat in a perfect line

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Bridge
Numbers on the glass like a jazzman’s score
Ten in the first, and he’s begging for more
Swapped his Nikes for a sharkskin tan
In the alley behind with the On Time Man

Outro
Fade out slow past the Hoan Bridge span
You can’t stop the clock for the On Time Man

Incredible
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Post#609 » by drew881 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:20 am

midranger wrote:
Big Dog Yank wrote:
emunney wrote:I can't remember who on here made the joke that Ramon Sessions sounds like the name of a Steely Dan album, but it's still the first thing that hits my brain whenever he comes up.


As a huge fan of both the Bucks and the Dan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I asked chatgpt to write a song about Ramon Sessions like Steely Dan would. Not too shabby...

Verse 1
Cold cream moon on Wisconsin Ave
Back-alley sax where the long shots have
The BC floor glowing in that red and green hue
Twenty gold dimes like the prophets knew

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Verse 2
Green and cream nights, the fans liked him badly
Baseline magic at the Center of Bradley
Took the rock downtown, fed the paint like wine
Every cut was a beat in a perfect line

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Bridge
Numbers on the glass like a jazzman’s score
Ten in the first, and he’s begging for more
Swapped his Nikes for a sharkskin tan
In the alley behind with the On Time Man

Outro
Fade out slow past the Hoan Bridge span
You can’t stop the clock for the On Time Man

Incredible


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Post#610 » by Big Dog Yank » Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:09 am

drew881 wrote:
midranger wrote:
Big Dog Yank wrote:
As a huge fan of both the Bucks and the Dan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I asked chatgpt to write a song about Ramon Sessions like Steely Dan would. Not too shabby...

Verse 1
Cold cream moon on Wisconsin Ave
Back-alley sax where the long shots have
The BC floor glowing in that red and green hue
Twenty gold dimes like the prophets knew

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Verse 2
Green and cream nights, the fans liked him badly
Baseline magic at the Center of Bradley
Took the rock downtown, fed the paint like wine
Every cut was a beat in a perfect line

Pre-Chorus
Silk-lined warm-up, brass in the stands
Kohl in the shadows with the game in his hands

Chorus
He dropped twenty dimes at the BC that night
Spun the whole floor in a Mercury light
From the Third Ward bars to the Lakeshore sand
Realgm whispers the name of the On Time Man

Bridge
Numbers on the glass like a jazzman’s score
Ten in the first, and he’s begging for more
Swapped his Nikes for a sharkskin tan
In the alley behind with the On Time Man

Outro
Fade out slow past the Hoan Bridge span
You can’t stop the clock for the On Time Man

Incredible


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Post#611 » by Shaffty » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:32 am

soxperry wrote:Coffey is trash from a winning perspective . There's a reason his market wasnt there.

This is his bball index for the last few seasons, most recent at the bottom.

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looks like he just had his best season
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Post#612 » by raferfenix » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:08 am

The Heat just made a curious trade giving up a 2nd to get off a productive role player on an ending contract.

Yes Highsmith did just have meniscus surgery alongside the deal clearly being done with an eye towards ducking the tax.

Not to be too conspiratorial…but Miami also just opened a second roster spot (13/15) while the Bucks brought in a guy on a camp deal obviously expecting a real contract.

So…should we be worried Horst’s about to trade our 2031 first (with Kuzma + Smith) for Wiggins?

If Brett Siegel’s right talks of some kind at least happened (yet again) recently:

This offseason, the Miami Heat were willing to discuss trade scenarios involving Andrew Wiggins, and several teams expressed interest in the former NBA champion and All-Star wing, sources said. The Milwaukee Bucks, league sources said, were one of the teams to inquire about Wiggins.

While the Heat ultimately kept the former first overall pick, they were willing to deal Wiggins if they received an instant impact player, along with an upcoming first-round pick before 2028. Teams continue to monitor the Heat, specifically how they will handle Tyler Herro's upcoming extension window, to get a better idea of what direction they are trending in.


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Post#613 » by benultimate » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:45 am

Coffey a better signing than Hary Garris
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Post#614 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:42 am

benultimate wrote:Coffey a better signing than Hary Garris


Gary Harris was an agent favor as part of the Turner signing.

Coffey will be one of the better players on the Herd.
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Post#615 » by Daver » Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:33 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
benultimate wrote:Coffey a better signing than Hary Garris


Gary Harris was an agent favor as part of the Turner signing.

Coffey will be one of the better players on the Herd.[/quote


Lmfao cofey is not going to the herd not a chance he will be on the bucs roster and will get alot of playing time
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Post#616 » by Bernman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:31 pm

Daver wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
benultimate wrote:Coffey a better signing than Hary Garris


Gary Harris was an agent favor as part of the Turner signing.

Coffey will be one of the better players on the Herd.[/quote


Lmfao cofey is not going to the herd not a chance he will be on the bucs roster and will get alot of playing time


Lmfao cofey got a non-roster deal so good chance hes not on the bucs roster.
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Post#617 » by midranger » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:17 pm

I have no doubt Coffey will get a guaranteed deal somewhere. I’m sure the Clipps or Lakers would take him on a 3 year minimum deal to be a fringe rotation guy so he can stay in LA.

He probably sees an opportunity to fit in here, potentially as a starter even, and wants to use camp to sort that out. If there’s mutual interest, he could probably squeeze a 1+1 PO deal for a bit over minimum here in an attempt to score a better deal next year like all of our recent SG signings. That could certainly work out well for both parties.

I just wish we could get the Kuzma trade over with. Would make the concept of taking on another low IQ, transition scorer a bit more attractive. At least Coffey can shoot.
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Post#618 » by yb90 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:10 pm

If he is still eligible I could see the Bucks waiving Livingston and bringing him back as a two-way player despite having just paid him. It could be a way to give Chris more salary while he develops. Ajax is an easy out but I would keep him for his defense.
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Post#619 » by soxperry » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:32 pm

Coffey cant do a ton beyond shooting in place. We've got a lot of guys like that. Id rather try and develop a guy who can do other things and then become something somewhat significant if the shot starts falling.
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Post#620 » by -Jragon- » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:41 pm

Defense and athleticism would have improved a lot Portis for Kuminga... shooting not so much but..

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