Ai (an old guy rant)

[Moon]

Today I was reading articles that have a headline that promises "big news" re: Bulls. What I was left with was a regurgitated story of stats and nonsense that had been published elsewhere..Thats when it dawned on me......

Are these stories clickbait or propaganda for betting industries for stimulating wagers?

Shockingly they criticize the Bulls administration and pad their "stories" with stats. My wife has informed me that Ai generated stories can make "fictional" authored by.....i.e. "Bill Smith".

Has anyone found a way to filter out these stories generated by bots? I recognized this isn't a topic only aimed at the Bulls but, having grown up with articles written by sportswriters I am questioning validity and truth in advertising.

I believe Ai articles should state so in the byline. If article is promotional (wage betting) it should be attributed.

[sco]

Today I was reading articles that have a headline that promises "big news" re: Bulls. What I was left with was a regurgitated story of stats and nonsense that had been published elsewhere..Thats when it dawned on me......

Are these stories clickbait or propaganda for betting industries for stimulating wagers?

Shockingly they criticize the Bulls administration and pad their "stories" with stats. My wife has informed me that Ai generated stories can make "fictional" authored by.....i.e. "Bill Smith".

Has anyone found a way to filter out these stories generated by bots? I recognized this isn't a topic only aimed at the Bulls but, having grown up with articles written by sportswriters I am questioning validity and truth in advertising.

I believe Ai articles should state so in the byline. If article is promotional (wage betting) it should be attributed.

How do we know you're not AI?

[Hangtime84]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

[DuckIII]

Just read articles from major news outlets from reporters you know cover the team and NBA and filter out the rest. 9/10 of the "articles" that appear in your social media feed - if that is where you are getting them - aren't real articles. I'm not saying they are necessarily AI, but one way or another they are just crap regurgitation and whack hypotheticals sold as breaking news.

On the other hand, I saw a hilarious picture of an angry baby the other day on facebook.

[Moon]

Just read articles from major news outlets from reporters you know cover the team and NBA and filter out the rest. 9/10 of the "articles" that appear in your social media feed - if that is where you are getting them - aren't real articles. I'm not saying they are necessarily AI, but one way or another they are just crap regurgitation and whack hypotheticals sold as breaking news.

On the other hand, I saw a hilarious picture of an angry baby the other day on facebook.

Thanks Duck 3, The majority of what I’ve been reading is a search of “Chicago Bulls today 2025” not social media search…good common sense

[Moon]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

. Thanks for the Crowley idea… I didn’t know that existed

[Moon]

Today I was reading articles that have a headline that promises "big news" re: Bulls. What I was left with was a regurgitated story of stats and nonsense that had been published elsewhere..Thats when it dawned on me......

Are these stories clickbait or propaganda for betting industries for stimulating wagers?

Shockingly they criticize the Bulls administration and pad their "stories" with stats. My wife has informed me that Ai generated stories can make "fictional" authored by.....i.e. "Bill Smith".

Has anyone found a way to filter out these stories generated by bots? I recognized this isn't a topic only aimed at the Bulls but, having grown up with articles written by sportswriters I am questioning validity and truth in advertising.

I believe Ai articles should state so in the byline. If article is promotional (wage betting) it should be attributed.

How do we know you're not AI?

Good point

[Evil_Headband]

AI would be an upgrade for many of these "stories" I see.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

[Hangtime84]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

There’s a lot to unpack there. I’m more on the pro side a believe ai can be great equalizer for many activities and tasks. There's also a group that struggles communication and programming AI opens to the opportunity to coherently express these ideas.

I’d even argue that ai has made me more intentional with the message I’m requesting for my desired result. It’s also been excellent helping understand fields I’m less aware of.

I think with everything in life it’s up to user responsibility.

Let’s take viral the kid who killed himself “because of ai” a story. The conventions were eventually leaked and parents knew their child had known mental issues. The companion AI avatar was based on GoT character. The kid mentioned multiple times to the ai about un-alive himself. The avatar mentioned multiple times not to go through with it. Until he gave a shakespearean reply and ai gave shakespearean response.

IMO the company should better guard rails setup for situations like that. But same time parents who bought the subscription for the child didn’t monitor the conversations. Nor was that avatar intended for children.

Anyways this is off topic and won’t go deeper than this. And yes ai is coming for jobs! 24 hr employee that improves every 6 to 8 months and gets cheaper.

[kodo]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

My friend's wife is a teacher and she complains endlessly about how much her students use AI to write their papers. We asked her how she separates which ones are AI and she uses AI to detect AI writing.

Which is both ironic and dangerous because those AI "detectors" have been proven completely inaccurate and will flag anything as AI. The reality is LLMs are incapable of any kind of critical thinking, they just regurgitate things based on stats. In some ways it's less advanced than some dedicated analysis programs, it just has a bazillion times more data processing power.

[jnrjr79]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

My friend's wife is a teacher and she complains endlessly about how much her students use AI to write their papers. We asked her how she separates which ones are AI and she uses AI to detect AI writing.

Which is both ironic and dangerous because those AI "detectors" have been proven completely inaccurate and will flag anything as AI. The reality is LLMs are incapable of any kind of critical thinking, they just regurgitate things based on stats. In some ways it's less advanced than some dedicated analysis programs, it just has a bazillion times more data processing power.

I think you're going to see a real move toward pen-and-paper tests in the classroom, because any homework is going to be inherently suspect. Of course, this isn't ideal if you want someone to write a 10-page paper or whatever.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

BS articles have always existed. That's why people prefer reputable sites.

Bulls really don't leak much. Probably better to look at other teams beat writers for rumors or inside info.

Joe Cowley podcast is pretty good and prefer that over his writing. KC Johnson is still the mouth piece.

Will Gottlieb and CHGO livestreams is also good for daily bulls rumors and such.

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

There’s a lot to unpack there. I’m more on the pro side a believe ai can be great equalizer for many activities and tasks. There's also a group that struggles communication and programming AI opens to the opportunity to coherently express these ideas.

I’d even argue that ai has made me more intentional with the message I’m requesting for my desired result. It’s also been excellent helping understand fields I’m less aware of.

I think with everything in life it’s up to user responsibility.

Let’s take viral the kid who killed himself “because of ai” a story. The conventions were eventually leaked and parents knew their child had known mental issues. The companion AI avatar was based on GoT character. The kid mentioned multiple times to the ai about un-alive himself. The avatar mentioned multiple times not to go through with it. Until he gave a shakespearean reply and ai gave shakespearean response.

IMO the company should better guard rails setup for situations like that. But same time parents who bought the subscription for the child didn’t monitor the conversations. Nor was that avatar intended for children.

Anyways this is off topic and won’t go deeper than this. And yes ai is coming for jobs! 24 hr employee that improves every 6 to 8 months and gets cheaper.

Good points. I’ve definitely used Google’s colab to help me do some basic computer programming in python (basically just simple stats). It’s been very helpful in that way — but you need to know how to do the math and then the ai assistant helps you translate it into the code. I’m not interested in learning how to code at a higher level, so I’ve appreciated that.

Art, writing, education, cultural pursuits etc strikes me as a scarier application. Also, when you ask it a question or type something into google, it is often wrong and will cite, like, reddit or a blog or something. The translation technology is way better than it used to be. Like, if you’re in a foreign country and you want to ask someone a question. I don’t think it could translate books into a different language effectively, that’s sort of like writing a novel in and of itself.

My friend's wife is a teacher and she complains endlessly about how much her students use AI to write their papers. We asked her how she separates which ones are AI and she uses AI to detect AI writing.

Which is both ironic and dangerous because those AI "detectors" have been proven completely inaccurate and will flag anything as AI. The reality is LLMs are incapable of any kind of critical thinking, they just regurgitate things based on stats. In some ways it's less advanced than some dedicated analysis programs, it just has a bazillion times more data processing power.

I think you're going to see a real move toward pen-and-paper tests in the classroom, because any homework is going to be inherently suspect. Of course, this isn't ideal if you want someone to write a 10-page paper or whatever.

Right, I was thinking an oral exam or a presentation could be good. A simple one to prove it is actually their work. Public speaking is a good skill to learn anyway.

[Moon]

Thanks for all the insightful comments re: Ai. This discussion exceeded my expectations with the insights re: testing. oral exams, and how quickly platforms can change from reliable person driven stories to useless regurgitation.

With that being said, can anyone provide a link to Joe Cowley's blog?

I am a frequent "insider watcher" to CHGO podcasts and do enjoy their daily content. Peck, Gottlieb, and Big Dave are the "real deal" and I do appreciate that they really care re: what the bulls do or don't do on a regular basis. Not an easy job given the current state of the franchise.

My view: Ai is a tool. As a gathering place (Real GM) these types of discussions can reinforce and reward those who inform with or without Ai.

Stats don't lie but liars use statistics....we will continue to evaluate with our eyes, and the old sniff test...look like sh*t, Smells like Sh*t, probably best to walk around it.

[Ccwatercraft]

Thanks for all the insightful comments re: Ai. This discussion exceeded my expectations with the insights re: testing. oral exams, and how quickly platforms can change from reliable person driven stories to useless regurgitation.

With that being said, can anyone provide a link to Joe Cowley's blog?

I am a frequent "insider watcher" to CHGO podcasts and do enjoy their daily content. Peck, Gottlieb, and Big Dave are the "real deal" and I do appreciate that they really care re: what the bulls do or don't do on a regular basis. Not an easy job given the current state of the franchise.

My view: Ai is a tool. As a gathering place (Real GM) these types of discussions can reinforce and reward those who inform with or without Ai.

Stats don't lie but liars use statistics....we will continue to evaluate with our eyes, and the old sniff test...look like sh*t, Smells like Sh*t, probably best to walk around it.

I gave up on chgo pod some time ago, too much goofing around, locked on seems to be a better fit for me, ymmv.

As far as AI.goes I just don't bother searching randomly for news or rumors. I figure that if something breaks one of the peeps here or on reddit will verify and link.

[sco]

Thanks for all the insightful comments re: Ai. This discussion exceeded my expectations with the insights re: testing. oral exams, and how quickly platforms can change from reliable person driven stories to useless regurgitation.

With that being said, can anyone provide a link to Joe Cowley's blog?

I am a frequent "insider watcher" to CHGO podcasts and do enjoy their daily content. Peck, Gottlieb, and Big Dave are the "real deal" and I do appreciate that they really care re: what the bulls do or don't do on a regular basis. Not an easy job given the current state of the franchise.

My view: Ai is a tool. As a gathering place (Real GM) these types of discussions can reinforce and reward those who inform with or without Ai.

Stats don't lie but liars use statistics....we will continue to evaluate with our eyes, and the old sniff test...look like sh*t, Smells like Sh*t, probably best to walk around it.

The best ai tool I've used is Google Notebook LLM. You give it anything...files, links, text info and it will turn it into an amazingly realistic 15 minute podcast. I've used it to help me with vacation planning, helping my kids with homework, distilling complicated documents into something easily digestible during road trips.

[jnrjr79]

Thanks for all the insightful comments re: Ai. This discussion exceeded my expectations with the insights re: testing. oral exams, and how quickly platforms can change from reliable person driven stories to useless regurgitation.

With that being said, can anyone provide a link to Joe Cowley's blog?

I am a frequent "insider watcher" to CHGO podcasts and do enjoy their daily content. Peck, Gottlieb, and Big Dave are the "real deal" and I do appreciate that they really care re: what the bulls do or don't do on a regular basis. Not an easy job given the current state of the franchise.

My view: Ai is a tool. As a gathering place (Real GM) these types of discussions can reinforce and reward those who inform with or without Ai.

Stats don't lie but liars use statistics....we will continue to evaluate with our eyes, and the old sniff test...look like sh*t, Smells like Sh*t, probably best to walk around it.

I gave up on chgo pod some time ago, too much goofing around, locked on seems to be a better fit for me, ymmv.

As far as AI.goes I just don't bother searching randomly for news or rumors. I figure that if something breaks one of the peeps here or on reddit will verify and link.

The thing I have not liked about the CHGO podcasts generally is a bit too much of a "guy on a barstool ranting" vibe. For instance, I don't really care for their regular CHGO Bears podcast, mostly because Braggs is annoying, but now that Hoge & Jahns is there, I'll happily listen to that, as it's a lot more professionally done.

[Ccwatercraft]

Thanks for all the insightful comments re: Ai. This discussion exceeded my expectations with the insights re: testing. oral exams, and how quickly platforms can change from reliable person driven stories to useless regurgitation.

With that being said, can anyone provide a link to Joe Cowley's blog?

I am a frequent "insider watcher" to CHGO podcasts and do enjoy their daily content. Peck, Gottlieb, and Big Dave are the "real deal" and I do appreciate that they really care re: what the bulls do or don't do on a regular basis. Not an easy job given the current state of the franchise.

My view: Ai is a tool. As a gathering place (Real GM) these types of discussions can reinforce and reward those who inform with or without Ai.

Stats don't lie but liars use statistics....we will continue to evaluate with our eyes, and the old sniff test...look like sh*t, Smells like Sh*t, probably best to walk around it.

I gave up on chgo pod some time ago, too much goofing around, locked on seems to be a better fit for me, ymmv.

As far as AI.goes I just don't bother searching randomly for news or rumors. I figure that if something breaks one of the peeps here or on reddit will verify and link.

The thing I have not liked about the CHGO podcasts generally is a bit too much of a "guy on a barstool ranting" vibe. For instance, I don't really care for their regular CHGO Bears podcast, mostly because Braggs is annoying, but now that Hoge & Jahns is there, I'll happily listen to that, as it's a lot more professionally done.

Ya, same vibe, it's OK occasionally but for the most part I'm looking for information with at least above average discussion and some nuance. It's the same reason I check here for details vs reddit where you have to surf around memes and snark too often.

FYI, i have found "nba front office" with keith and Trevor to be an excellent pod, especially for cba based talk during the off-season, some goofing but generally a serious tone and a positive vibe, and I like the spotrac website anyway so I respect Keith's input.

Past that there's only so much time I'm willing to invest, I only do pods during certain activies so it's limiting, and there are multiple non sports pods that also get my attention

[dice]

Sports Illustrated and Yahoo Sports used to be "reputable sites". SI definitely uses AI to write articles, I'm not sure Yahoo does specifically, but they use it for a lot of other things. There really aren't reputable sports websites these days. Paying people to write and edit is expensive (not really, but it's more than 0 dollars) and nobody really wants to pay for sports media. I can think of three sites I like and two are for the White Sox and the third is Baseball America (which costs $100 a year). Not sure what there is for basketball, if anything.

The Athletic was supposed to be 'the answer' to this until they got bought up by NYT and fired 90% of their beat writers except the "multiple sources" type con artists/agent mouthpieces.

The AI stuff is particularly scary to me because, while the old people tend to like it, they at least learned how to read and write at some point in their lives. Anyone under the age of 30 has been using AI tools like Grammarly for a long time. Universities have encourage students to use that for years. Now they're shocked when the 20-year-olds are using ChatGPT to write their papers. The SAT exam doesn't even have a writing portion anymore. High school students aren't assigned books to read anymore and are shocked when they are expected to read, I dunno, a Charles Dickens book or Huck Finn in college (something we probably were assigned in 8th grade and was written for children in the 19th century. we're dumber than we were 150 years ago).

The kids are doomed and all written media is going to get even worse. Adults and teachers are encouraging their illiteracy because they're also barely literate. Everything will soon be mediated through a Mr. Beast-esque reaction video...it's already happened in politics, look at the guy who's planning to run against Trump and how everyone is lapping it up. Memelord vs Memelord. Apparently rappers are using AI now to write their lyrics. Sometimes I use doordash and they have AI-generated product descriptions. I ordered some Chinese food that contained allergens (peanuts), but the auto-generated text didn't mention that this place does their fried rice a little differently than most. It's going to kill someone. Saw some article a long time ago where the ChatGPT helped push some guy over the edge into killing himself...it told him something like, "yes it would be better for the environment if there was one fewer person living on the planet." The guy was in trouble anyway, right, but apparently that was the push he needed. Supposedly some little girl killed herself in a similar way recently.

I'd be worried, I think there needs to be legislation about this sort of thing. The AI technology is interesting in some ways, but there are no ethics around it, and it's the children who suffer...also sports fans.

There’s a lot to unpack there. I’m more on the pro side a believe ai can be great equalizer for many activities and tasks. There's also a group that struggles communication and programming AI opens to the opportunity to coherently express these ideas.

I’d even argue that ai has made me more intentional with the message I’m requesting for my desired result. It’s also been excellent helping understand fields I’m less aware of.

I think with everything in life it’s up to user responsibility.

Let’s take viral the kid who killed himself “because of ai” a story. The conventions were eventually leaked and parents knew their child had known mental issues. The companion AI avatar was based on GoT character. The kid mentioned multiple times to the ai about un-alive himself. The avatar mentioned multiple times not to go through with it. Until he gave a shakespearean reply and ai gave shakespearean response.

IMO the company should better guard rails setup for situations like that. But same time parents who bought the subscription for the child didn’t monitor the conversations. Nor was that avatar intended for children.

Anyways this is off topic and won’t go deeper than this. And yes ai is coming for jobs! 24 hr employee that improves every 6 to 8 months and gets cheaper.

Good points. I’ve definitely used Google’s colab to help me do some basic computer programming in python (basically just simple stats). It’s been very helpful in that way — but you need to know how to do the math and then the ai assistant helps you translate it into the code. I’m not interested in learning how to code at a higher level, so I’ve appreciated that.

Art, writing, education, cultural pursuits etc strikes me as a scarier application. Also, when you ask it a question or type something into google, it is often wrong and will cite, like, reddit or a blog or something. The translation technology is way better than it used to be. Like, if you’re in a foreign country and you want to ask someone a question. I don’t think it could translate books into a different language effectively, that’s sort of like writing a novel in and of itself.

My friend's wife is a teacher and she complains endlessly about how much her students use AI to write their papers. We asked her how she separates which ones are AI and she uses AI to detect AI writing.

Which is both ironic and dangerous because those AI "detectors" have been proven completely inaccurate and will flag anything as AI. The reality is LLMs are incapable of any kind of critical thinking, they just regurgitate things based on stats. In some ways it's less advanced than some dedicated analysis programs, it just has a bazillion times more data processing power.

I think you're going to see a real move toward pen-and-paper tests in the classroom, because any homework is going to be inherently suspect. Of course, this isn't ideal if you want someone to write a 10-page paper or whatever.

Right, I was thinking an oral exam or a presentation could be good. A simple one to prove it is actually their work. Public speaking is a good skill to learn anyway.

if not sure whether AI and it's a long paper, simply quiz them on it! or ask more in depth follow-up questions on it. if they did their homework and studied the AI-generated paper, well...they learned something at least

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The new image capability within Google gemini is crazy good.

I said reimagine the person in picture as a matador.



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