NBA General Discussion: 2025 Offseason

[GoSixersBro]

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We can all make our jokes but looking at this from a neutral perspective, it's just kind of sad.

[76ciology]

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We can all make our jokes but looking at this from a neutral perspective, it's just kind of sad.

Are Dario and Embiid the only two players we drafted in the lottery who are still active from the entire Process era?

Strike out:
Nerlens
Okafor
MCW
Fultz
Ben Simmons

Bonus: Elfrid Payton

[Eyeamok]

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We can all make our jokes but looking at this from a neutral perspective, it's just kind of sad.

Sad how? That he never truly worked on getting better at the basketball things he was weakest at?

[Sixteen]

3 NBA All-Star selections (2019, 2020, 2021), the 2018 NBA Rookie of the Year award, a 2020 All-NBA Third Team selection, two selections to the NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021), and the 2020 NBA steals leader title. Ben has had pretty solid career. And when you look at these accolades early in his career, you understand the frustration from fans because he could have been a top 10 player in the world if he actually cared to improve. Either way, he will go down as one of the best guards in Sixers history and one of my personal favorites. I've been over hating on Ben years ago and just wish him good health physically and mentally at this point

[the_process]

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We can all make our jokes but looking at this from a neutral perspective, it's just kind of sad.

Basketball was never the guy’s passion. It was his job. I think that sums it up.

[76ciology]

Ben Simmons’ family problem was the real cause of his downfall. Its just kept under the rag.

[Eyeamok]

Ben Simmons’ family problem was the real cause of his downfall. Its just kept under the rag.

What family problem(s). Was he married and his wife was cheating on him with the personal trainer, which caused him to be off his game? Did his son almost die in a car accident? Or are we talking about his sister saying her brother molested her and then never showing up in court to defend those claims? Or are we talking about that one season where he had "mental illness" which hampered him from being his best. Even Klutch, where his sister worked got tired of his behind, and dropped him as a client. But I could be wrong. His biggest problem was Trae Young' defensive intensity. It is very rare one can pinpoint where a player actual decline takes place. But that game and play was it for Simmons. He was never the same after that he was shook.

[GoSixersBro]

It sounds like a number of things contributed and we can't just point to one incident. I'm not here to be the #1 Ben apologist because I was never a big fan of him as a player. I think it's a sad scenario because on paper he had all the gifts to step in at the right time and contibuted to the first Sixers title in 40 some years. Not sad only for him, but us as a fanbase and his teammates. But like the_process said, it was never a passion to him. Combine that with personal life issues that 76ciology brought up plus difficulty playing in Philly. I used to really dislike the kid but have come around to let it go. It's just a game at the end of the day and life is so much more. Sucks it didn't work out but hope he finds his peace.

[Peak Brunson]

I was right all along with Bum Simmons, I saw through him as soon as 2016-2017, where the only reason he didn't play in the second part of the season was so that he could win ROTY and also work less of course. Dude was a walking primadonna from the beginning, coupled with zero real passion for basketball and we have the perfect storm for a guy who was really talented but just wanted to coast on talent and collect a huge paycheck and call it a day.
That being said, we also had a lot of Aussie fanboys back then I remember, trying to gaslight us into believing how amazing poor Simmons really was. Non Aussie fans also didn't help with their toxic positivism with him, his amazing talent was enough for many to give him a pass, "he will figure it out".
People also like to point out his incredible defense, but that's only because he was doing jack **** on offense and getting worse and worse on that end every passing year. When you do jack **** on offense, you will have way more energy to defend, but people always forgot this fact.

[Peak Brunson]

It sounds like a number of things contributed and we can't just point to one incident. I'm not here to be the #1 Ben apologist because I was never a big fan of him as a player. I think it's a sad scenario because on paper he had all the gifts to step in at the right time and contibuted to the first Sixers title in 40 some years. Not sad only for him, but us as a fanbase and his teammates. But like the_process said, it was never a passion to him. Combine that with personal life issues that 76ciology brought up plus difficulty playing in Philly. I used to really dislike the kid but have come around to let it go. It's just a game at the end of the day and life is so much more. Sucks it didn't work out but hope he finds his peace.

For sure, losing against Grimsby can give you a different perspective of life.

[Iverson Armband]

It’s hard for me to feel sad for somebody who stole millions.

[GoSixersBro]

It sounds like a number of things contributed and we can't just point to one incident. I'm not here to be the #1 Ben apologist because I was never a big fan of him as a player. I think it's a sad scenario because on paper he had all the gifts to step in at the right time and contibuted to the first Sixers title in 40 some years. Not sad only for him, but us as a fanbase and his teammates. But like the_process said, it was never a passion to him. Combine that with personal life issues that 76ciology brought up plus difficulty playing in Philly. I used to really dislike the kid but have come around to let it go. It's just a game at the end of the day and life is so much more. Sucks it didn't work out but hope he finds his peace.

For sure, losing against Grimsby can give you a different perspective of life.

Worrying about Disney trophies is for small clubs.

[Stanford]

Silver built his reputation on replacing Sterling with Ballmer. He's not going to do anything that affirms Pablo's assertion.

[76ciology]

Ben Simmons’ family problem was the real cause of his downfall. Its just kept under the rag.

What family problem(s). Was he married and his wife was cheating on him with the personal trainer, which caused him to be off his game? Did his son almost die in a car accident? Or are we talking about his sister saying her brother molested her and then never showing up in court to defend those claims? Or are we talking about that one season where he had "mental illness" which hampered him from being his best. Even Klutch, where his sister worked got tired of his behind, and dropped him as a client. But I could be wrong. His biggest problem was Trae Young' defensive intensity. It is very rare one can pinpoint where a player actual decline takes place. But that game and play was it for Simmons. He was never the same after that he was shook.

My belief is that Ben Simmons’ family problem, his sister’s allegations of being molested by his half-brother, someone Simmons was very close with.. was at least one of the major reasons behind his downfall.

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He was having his best stretch in the 2020–2021 season, highlighted by what was probably the best game of his career.. 42 points, 12 assists, and 9 rebounds against the Jazz. In February, he averaged 21 points per game over 10 games, then 15 per game in March over another 10 games. But when the news broke publicly in April (and likely circulated within his inner circle earlier), his numbers and minutes dropped sharply, to just 11 points per game on 4.4 attempts.

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Nothing was the same afterward. He had that mental block moment in the playoffs and didn’t seem like himself at all, most evident when he passed up that wide-open possession in the Hawks series. From there, he looked fragile, and he ended up missing the entire following season. Maybe it was the back injury. Maybe it was Doc Rivers’ comments. But given the timing and how close Simmons was to his half-brother, it’s hard not to see that family situation as a significant factor in his decline.

Nothing has been the same ever since. He likes to post a lot because he has an egomaniac personality where he would go from parading a Nickelodeon award, bragging about his basketball IQ and his offseason workouts. You barely find him posting now. He used to share plenty of media with his half brother Sean Tribe, his trainer, whom he even gifted a luxury car, and his sister was vocal on social media as well. Now, all three have essentially disappeared from the social media radar (although sean tribe is still active just on x)

I’m not making excuse for Ben. In fact, I’ve been one of his biggest and earliest critics. His problems is most likely than his family issues but for me that was the nail to his coffin. And all this is just my Pablo Torre hat with what I’ve observed, and my belief based on those observations.

[mjkvol]

The WNBA should partner Kate Scott and Doris Burke to do every WNBA game. It's 2025. We need to be lifting strong, talented women into the best opportunities and what better time to do so when the WNBA is taking off and enjoying it's most fruitful era!

And then remove Ala and have them be the Sixers broadcast team in perpetuity. If we can't win championships, we can still be the most enlightened franchise in the league.

[76ciology]

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[Eyeamok]

Ben Simmons’ family problem was the real cause of his downfall. Its just kept under the rag.

What family problem(s). Was he married and his wife was cheating on him with the personal trainer, which caused him to be off his game? Did his son almost die in a car accident? Or are we talking about his sister saying her brother molested her and then never showing up in court to defend those claims? Or are we talking about that one season where he had "mental illness" which hampered him from being his best. Even Klutch, where his sister worked got tired of his behind, and dropped him as a client. But I could be wrong. His biggest problem was Trae Young' defensive intensity. It is very rare one can pinpoint where a player actual decline takes place. But that game and play was it for Simmons. He was never the same after that he was shook.

My belief is that Ben Simmons’ family problem, his sister’s allegations of being molested by his half-brother, someone Simmons was very close with.. was at least one of the major reasons behind his downfall.

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Ok you maybe right. So since he left the 76ers he has been a shell of his former self but still collecting big pay checks. Now today on WT there is a report that Simmons turned down a 1 year (prove it contract). This guy has gotten use to producing very little and being paid handsomely for it. Now that the well seems to be drying up he is contemplating retirement. I think he retired a few years ago just never made a formal announcement.



He was having his best stretch in the 2020–2021 season, highlighted by what was probably the best game of his career.. 42 points, 12 assists, and 9 rebounds against the Jazz. In February, he averaged 21 points per game over 10 games, then 15 per game in March over another 10 games. But when the news broke publicly in April (and likely circulated within his inner circle earlier), his numbers and minutes dropped sharply, to just 11 points per game on 4.4 attempts.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

Nothing was the same afterward. He had that mental block moment in the playoffs and didn’t seem like himself at all, most evident when he passed up that wide-open possession in the Hawks series. From there, he looked fragile, and he ended up missing the entire following season. Maybe it was the back injury. Maybe it was Doc Rivers’ comments. But given the timing and how close Simmons was to his half-brother, it’s hard not to see that family situation as a significant factor in his decline.

Nothing has been the same ever since. He likes to post a lot because he has an egomaniac personality where he would go from parading a Nickelodeon award, bragging about his basketball IQ and his offseason workouts. You barely find him posting now. He used to share plenty of media with his half brother Sean Tribe, his trainer, whom he even gifted a luxury car, and his sister was vocal on social media as well. Now, all three have essentially disappeared from the social media radar (although sean tribe is still active just on x)

I’m not making excuse for Ben. In fact, I’ve been one of his biggest and earliest critics. His problems is most likely than his family issues but for me that was the nail to his coffin. And all this is just my Pablo Torre hat with what I’ve observed, and my belief based on those observations.

[76ciology]

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[GoSixersBro]

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I think I can speak for a large portion of our fanbase saying this is all we wanted Simmons to do instead of only looking for assists or just completely freezing on the perimeter. Meanwhile renowned "bust" Evan Turner who did not have the handle or athleticism of Ben extended his career by using his size and aggressiveness.

[the_process]

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I think I can speak for a large portion of our fanbase saying this is all we wanted Simmons to do instead of only looking for assists or just completely freezing on the perimeter. Meanwhile renowned "bust" Evan Turner who did not have the handle or athleticism of Ben extended his career by using his size and aggressiveness.

Turner got a 4-72(!) deal that summer from Portland that was negative as soon as the ink dried on the strength of that one season in Boston.