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Re: Kawhi 

Post#501 » by mtcan » Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:04 am

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djsunyc wrote:what is cuban getting out of this?
According to Cuban he's doing it for fun. Yes a billionaire spending his free time arguing on Twitter.


Cuban doesn’t want to burn a bridge with one of the wealthiest guys on the planet. You never know when you’re going to be looking for investment cash for your next venture and having Ballmer on your side isn’t a bad thing.

Or....he could just stay silent and let things unfold...which also would not burn bridges.

Why is a former owner and billionaire speaking out so loudly and often to try and make this go away???? Does he, himself have something to hide?

I noticed that Pablo said recently that he'll be looking into Jalen Brunson soon as well. I wonder if Pablo's looking into his dealings with the Knicks? Mavs? Or maybe Pablo will also look into his dealings with Dirk?
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Post#502 » by C Court » Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:10 am

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NinjaBro wrote:According to Cuban he's doing it for fun. Yes a billionaire spending his free time arguing on Twitter.


Cuban doesn’t want to burn a bridge with one of the wealthiest guys on the planet. You never know when you’re going to be looking for investment cash for your next venture and having Ballmer on your side isn’t a bad thing.

Or....he could just stay silent and let things unfold...which also would not burn bridges.

Why is a former owner and billionaire speaking out so loudly and often to try and make this go away???? Does he, himself have something to hide?

I noticed that Pablo said recently that he'll be looking into Jalen Brunson soon as well. I wonder if Pablo's looking into his dealings with the Knicks? Mavs? Or maybe Pablo will also look into his dealings with Dirk?


You’re not wrong. I mentioned privately to someone else that Cuban might have his own skeletons, so he has his own vested interest in keeping people from looking into his history of possible transgressions. We know he had his wrist slapped for letting Rodman live in his guest house for free back in the day.
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Re: Kawhi 

Post#503 » by mtcan » Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:13 am

C Court wrote:
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Cuban doesn’t want to burn a bridge with one of the wealthiest guys on the planet. You never know when you’re going to be looking for investment cash for your next venture and having Ballmer on your side isn’t a bad thing.

Or....he could just stay silent and let things unfold...which also would not burn bridges.

Why is a former owner and billionaire speaking out so loudly and often to try and make this go away???? Does he, himself have something to hide?

I noticed that Pablo said recently that he'll be looking into Jalen Brunson soon as well. I wonder if Pablo's looking into his dealings with the Knicks? Mavs? Or maybe Pablo will also look into his dealings with Dirk?


You’re not wrong. I mentioned privately to someone else that Cuban might have his own skeletons, so he has his own vested interest in keeping people from looking into his history of possible transgressions. We know he had his wrist slapped for letting Rodman live in his guest house for free back in the day.

Yup. Cuban is getting ahead of this by trying to discredit and take down Pablo before Pablo's investigations start dishing on any shady dealings in Dallas. Every time he speak up...that's all I am thinking.
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Re: Kawhi 

Post#504 » by Lord_Zedd » Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:32 am

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Cuban doesn’t want to burn a bridge with one of the wealthiest guys on the planet. You never know when you’re going to be looking for investment cash for your next venture and having Ballmer on your side isn’t a bad thing.

Or....he could just stay silent and let things unfold...which also would not burn bridges.

Why is a former owner and billionaire speaking out so loudly and often to try and make this go away???? Does he, himself have something to hide?

I noticed that Pablo said recently that he'll be looking into Jalen Brunson soon as well. I wonder if Pablo's looking into his dealings with the Knicks? Mavs? Or maybe Pablo will also look into his dealings with Dirk?


You’re not wrong. I mentioned privately to someone else that Cuban might have his own skeletons, so he has his own vested interest in keeping people from looking into his history of possible transgressions. We know he had his wrist slapped for letting Rodman live in his guest house for free back in the day.


Well, Cuban was running the show when the Mavs organization was filled with sexual harassment allegations. I wouldn't be surprised if there was way more than what was known, especially with how quick that one blew by.
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Post#505 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:53 am

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mtcan wrote:Or....he could just stay silent and let things unfold...which also would not burn bridges.

Why is a former owner and billionaire speaking out so loudly and often to try and make this go away???? Does he, himself have something to hide?

I noticed that Pablo said recently that he'll be looking into Jalen Brunson soon as well. I wonder if Pablo's looking into his dealings with the Knicks? Mavs? Or maybe Pablo will also look into his dealings with Dirk?


You’re not wrong. I mentioned privately to someone else that Cuban might have his own skeletons, so he has his own vested interest in keeping people from looking into his history of possible transgressions. We know he had his wrist slapped for letting Rodman live in his guest house for free back in the day.


"Well, Cuban was running the show when the Mavs organization was filled with sexual harassment allegations. I wouldn't be surprised if there was way more than what was known, especially with how quick that one blew by.


In December of 2021, Nelson filed a charge with the EEOC and Texas Workforce Commission (TWC) against the Mavericks, alleging that he had been illegally retaliated against. Though the Mavericks contended that Nelson had been terminated for poor job performance, the franchise came back with an offer: Nelson would receive $52 million on the condition that he withdraw the charge and enter into a confidentiality agreement over the alleged sexual assault of his nephew. The Mavericks would deny Nelson's claims and admit no wrongdoing; he would be barred from discussing or disclosing his allegations.

Nelson declined this offer and says that he felt he had little choice but to “go the legal route.” In March 2022, he filed a lawsuit in Dallas County court, first reported by ESPN. Explosive by any definition, it alleged that Cuban fired Nelson in retaliation for reporting a “high-level Mavericks executive sexually harassed and sexually assaulted a job applicant,” and warning that team employees and players were at risk.

The complaint does not read like your average legal filing. Nelson lays out his case that he was fired in retaliation for his whistleblowing. He references the executive by name as a “sexual predator.” He includes, as an exhibit, a PDF of the $52 million settlement offer."

https://www.si.com/nba/donnie-nelson-mavericks-lawsuit-mark-cuban


They offered Nelson 50m+ in 2021 to keep quiet but Nelson went ahead with the lawsuit in 2022. They eventually reached a confidential settlement in November 2024, so we can probably safely assume Cuban gave him a bag of money for that to go away.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#506 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:44 am

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Post#507 » by inonba » Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:55 am

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lol why would they need to keep it hidden from Ballmer? If he only made the introduction, what rule did he break?

Here, let me make up a better story. After the intro from Ballmer, Aspiration offered Kawhi a "REAL" endorsement deal in line with the other celebs. But, while Uncle Dennis was doing his research into Aspiration to decide whether to accept the deal, he discovered some funny business going on. He then goes to Aspiration and hints to them that they might want to keep him quiet about what he found and not tell Ballmer about it and that they might want to pay his nephew an endorsement deal for 28m and 20m in stock options to "forget" about what he saw.

This is the silliest explanation I've read.


Steve Ballmer already personally thanked me, so it couldn't have been that silly :D


You're forgetting the most important parts of any explanation.....the money. Aspiration didn't have any. Besides the hilarity in thinking uncle Dennis will confess to extortion to escape the penalty of salary cap circumvention, it doesn't explain the money flow.

I like my story a lot better. The investment was legitimate and the CEO of Aspiration was visited by 3 spirits that ultimately appealed to his conscience. Spirits also convinced him not to returned the money they scammed to Ballmer but instead to do a good deed and solve one of Ballmers biigest headaches: How to get Kawhi paid.

Ballmer doesn't have to thank me as he already thank his lawyers for a similar story that he made and claimed he doesn't know what possessed Aspiration to give Kawhi that contract.

Disclaimer: the spirit were definitely not Ballmer, Dennis Wong, and Uncle Dennis in disguise. That would be salary cap circumvention....
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Post#508 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:01 am

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causal_fan wrote:This is the silliest explanation I've read.


Steve Ballmer already personally thanked me, so it couldn't have been that silly :D


You're forgetting the most important parts of any explanation.....the money. Aspiration didn't have any. Besides the hilarity in thinking uncle Dennis will confess to extortion to escape the penalty of salary cap circumvention, it doesn't explain the money flow.

I like my story a lot better. The investment was legitimate and the CEO of Aspiration was visited by 3 spirits that ultimately appealed to his conscience. Spirits also convinced him not to returned the money they scammed to Ballmer but instead to do a good deed and solve one of Ballmers biigest headaches: How to get Kawhi paid.

Ballmer doesn't have to thank me as he already thank his lawyers for a similar story that he made and claimed he doesn't know what possessed Aspiration to give Kawhi that contract.

Disclaimer: the spirit were definitely not Ballmer, Dennis Wong, and Uncle Dennis in disguise. That would be salary cap circumvention....


Uncle Dennis didn't extort them. He only made some suggestions.

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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#509 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:40 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Silver ruined the NBA.


First with the midseason tournament

Then with the Luka to LAL, then kicking back Cooper Flagg


Forcing Luka to LAL then rewarding Mavs with Flagg should honestly get him locked up.

Rigged league.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#510 » by CPT » Sat Sep 13, 2025 9:03 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Silver ruined the NBA.


First with the midseason tournament

Then with the Luka to LAL, then kicking back Cooper Flagg


Forcing Luka to LAL then rewarding Mavs with Flagg should honestly get him locked up.

Rigged league.


It *might* if that’s what happened.

Unless you think the other 28-29 owners are all in on it as well.
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Post#511 » by bluerap23 » Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:21 pm

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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#512 » by TorontoRapsFan » Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:45 pm

I'm curious. Has this made those of you who said Kawhi's leaving for his 'family' over championship run was all good, change the way you thought of him and his decision?
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Post#514 » by mtcan » Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:23 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:I'm curious. Has this made those of you who said Kawhi's leaving for his 'family' over championship run was all good, change the way you thought of him and his decision?

It was never all good to me...so doesn't change my POV at all. I respect him for playing his ass off and the championship. The love ends there.
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Post#515 » by ItsDanger » Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:26 pm

What Cuban says or what his organization did in the past is irrelevant to this situation with Kawhi and Clippers.
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Post#516 » by mtcan » Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:28 pm

ItsDanger wrote:What Cuban says or what his organization did in the past is irrelevant to this situation with Kawhi and Clippers.

Absolutely true.

Cuban is a bit too vocal and critical of Torre and he isn't even the subject of Torre's investigation here. We are just trying to figure out Cuban's motives here. If Cuban hadn't injected himself into these interviews and tweets...we wouldn't be talking about him. Again...I think he is afraid that Pablo has **** on him and is planning on releasing it some time in the future and proactively trying to discredit and destroy Pablo before he can get there.
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Post#517 » by Zeno » Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:30 pm

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Until I am given the ‘more to come’ of this. The additional Balmer investment doesn’t add up to much because Aspiration was able to raise additional money from other investors and Balmer gave in 10 million not 2 million like Wong did. Why would Balmer trust a failing company to pay Kawhi with his investment for a year in advance. They already had failed to keep it afloat long enough to pay him on his first 50 million.

I really hope that there is more, because if it gets bad enough, I see Balmer taking a ‘plea deal’ with the nba to speed up the process rather than be a distraction for the league through the season and keep the all-star game with the Clippers. At least that is my hope, because this is an entertaining story for the offseason but in the end I want to just watch and talk about basketball
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Post#518 » by NinjaBro » Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:00 pm

No mercy for the clippers, Balmer and Kawhi. Off with their heads.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#519 » by deeps6x » Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:52 pm

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causal_fan wrote:I have no problems with billionaires if they paid their fair share of taxes which no billionaire does.


That is just it. If companies were not allowed monopolies, and taxes were actually levied on the rich, you wouldn't necessarily have billionaires. How much wealth does one person need. When you get into this stratosphere, they can operate with impunity.


Problem is we tax income not assets. And it's very easy for billionaires to hide their income.

Governments know this btw, they don't want to tax billionaires cause they're owned by them.

This is the world we've created, a new form of the feudalism of the middle ages. Someone can work their ass off and not buy a home while a few hundred people own more than half the wealth.


No, they just don't tax most of the assets billionaires hold.

They sure as hell do tax my main asset, my house, through illegal property tax demands from my city council.

We should start taxing all appreciating assets, including the stocks that they and others own.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#520 » by deeps6x » Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:53 pm

Senbonzakura wrote:
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causal_fan wrote:I have no problems with billionaires if they paid their fair share of taxes which no billionaire does.


That is just it. If companies were not allowed monopolies, and taxes were actually levied on the rich, you wouldn't necessarily have billionaires. How much wealth does one person need. When you get into this stratosphere, they can operate with impunity.


Problem is we tax income not assets. And it's very easy for billionaires to hide their income.

Governments know this btw, they don't want to tax billionaires cause they're owned by them.

This is the world we've created, a new form of the feudalism of the middle ages. Someone can work their ass off and not buy a home while a few hundred people own more than half the wealth.


It isn't a few hundred people. The magic number is now down to 4 people, that own half of the wealth in America.

It might be a few dozen people for Canada.
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