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Houston hasn't a lot options in back-court
as a matter of fact more people think to play Amen Thompson at SG
now they have lost the only warranty as PG
i think they can't have full season without a PG and i don't think they can contend for title with Amen at PG
instead they have a lot of solution at front-court
Adams and Capela behind Sengun
Eason, DFS, Tate behind KD and JabariSmith
at the moment the only PG/SG avaliable are A.Holiday, Okogie, Amen, Sheppard
Holiday played 12' last year, Sheppard is only 20years old, Okogie doesn't play 20' from when he was in Minnesota, Amen is a great player but he played at SF or PF last year
i think they must make a trade because they must try to contend now (KD is not young)
let's propose your best idea of trade for Houston
as a matter of fact more people think to play Amen Thompson at SG
now they have lost the only warranty as PG
i think they can't have full season without a PG and i don't think they can contend for title with Amen at PG
instead they have a lot of solution at front-court
Adams and Capela behind Sengun
Eason, DFS, Tate behind KD and JabariSmith
at the moment the only PG/SG avaliable are A.Holiday, Okogie, Amen, Sheppard
Holiday played 12' last year, Sheppard is only 20years old, Okogie doesn't play 20' from when he was in Minnesota, Amen is a great player but he played at SF or PF last year
i think they must make a trade because they must try to contend now (KD is not young)
let's propose your best idea of trade for Houston
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good idea from another topic
at 15 december FVV+other x JrueHoliday
in addition to that how do you think about sign R.Westbrook?
i know that is not the ideal for Houston, but he can be a temporary solution
at 15 december FVV+other x JrueHoliday
in addition to that how do you think about sign R.Westbrook?
i know that is not the ideal for Houston, but he can be a temporary solution
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When FVV becomes trade eligible, deal him and Sheppard to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Bub Carrington.
For Houston, CJ can play PG offensively at a high level with Amen handling a lot of the playmaking, Carrington can give a bench playmaker who can distribute and has good size and potential to be the PG of the future instead of Sheppard. But Houston's window with Durant is not going to stay open so they need to have their ducks in a row this year. Houston may have to add some draft capital but not a ridiculous amount.
For Washington, Sheppard should be an upgrade over Carrington for his shooting; he and Tre Johnson will give Washington a lot of floor stretching to go with their athletic forwards while his learning curve will keep them from competing this year. Despite being a year or two older, his lack of play last season while Carrington got lots of NBA minutes probably means he's equal or further away from being a starting caliber player this year. CJ has no real role or future in Washington which is committed to their youth movement. Next year FVV will be the one who is expiring or trade bait.
For Houston, CJ can play PG offensively at a high level with Amen handling a lot of the playmaking, Carrington can give a bench playmaker who can distribute and has good size and potential to be the PG of the future instead of Sheppard. But Houston's window with Durant is not going to stay open so they need to have their ducks in a row this year. Houston may have to add some draft capital but not a ridiculous amount.
For Washington, Sheppard should be an upgrade over Carrington for his shooting; he and Tre Johnson will give Washington a lot of floor stretching to go with their athletic forwards while his learning curve will keep them from competing this year. Despite being a year or two older, his lack of play last season while Carrington got lots of NBA minutes probably means he's equal or further away from being a starting caliber player this year. CJ has no real role or future in Washington which is committed to their youth movement. Next year FVV will be the one who is expiring or trade bait.
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In addition to LaMelo, the Hornets have at pg:
1. Tre Mann - just signed for 3 years at 8 mil per year
2. Colin Sexton - 18 mil expiring
3. Spencer Dinwiddie - small expiring deal
I could see somebody getting moved if the price is right and we don't have injury problems ourselves
1. Tre Mann - just signed for 3 years at 8 mil per year
2. Colin Sexton - 18 mil expiring
3. Spencer Dinwiddie - small expiring deal
I could see somebody getting moved if the price is right and we don't have injury problems ourselves
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penbeast0 wrote:When FVV becomes trade eligible, deal him and Sheppard to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Bub Carrington.
For Houston, CJ can play PG offensively at a high level with Amen handling a lot of the playmaking, Carrington can give a bench playmaker who can distribute and has good size and potential to be the PG of the future instead of Sheppard. But Houston's window with Durant is not going to stay open so they need to have their ducks in a row this year. Houston may have to add some draft capital but not a ridiculous amount.
For Washington, Sheppard should be an upgrade over Carrington for his shooting; he and Tre Johnson will give Washington a lot of floor stretching to go with their athletic forwards while his learning curve will keep them from competing this year. Despite being a year or two older, his lack of play last season while Carrington got lots of NBA minutes probably means he's equal or further away from being a starting caliber player this year. CJ has no real role or future in Washington which is committed to their youth movement. Next year FVV will be the one who is expiring or trade bait.
CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
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CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
He's not a buyout candidate until after the trade deadline as the Wiz have the cap space to keep both CJ and Mids as a break in case of emergency option for a contender . . . it just seems this is an emergency for Houston and FVV is their only tradeable big contract and with the injury, a negative value one.
I like Sheppard better myself as I think he has more ceiling despite Carrington being both younger and more proven at the NBA level, but not a huge amount, and somehow Houston has to deal away an extra 5-6 million to make the vet swap work at their apron situation.
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penbeast0 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
He's not a buyout candidate until after the trade deadline as the Wiz have the cap space to keep both CJ and Mids as a break in case of emergency option for a contender . . . it just seems this is an emergency for Houston and FVV is their only tradeable big contract and with the injury, a negative value one.
I like Sheppard better myself as I think he has more ceiling despite Carrington being both younger and more proven at the NBA level, but not a huge amount and somehow Houston has to deal away an extra 5-6 million to make the vet swap work at their apron situation.
they cant trade fvv until december anyways. can probably afford to wait a couple more months for a buyout
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Godaddycurse wrote:penbeast0 wrote:When FVV becomes trade eligible, deal him and Sheppard to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Bub Carrington.
For Houston, CJ can play PG offensively at a high level with Amen handling a lot of the playmaking, Carrington can give a bench playmaker who can distribute and has good size and potential to be the PG of the future instead of Sheppard. But Houston's window with Durant is not going to stay open so they need to have their ducks in a row this year. Houston may have to add some draft capital but not a ridiculous amount.
For Washington, Sheppard should be an upgrade over Carrington for his shooting; he and Tre Johnson will give Washington a lot of floor stretching to go with their athletic forwards while his learning curve will keep them from competing this year. Despite being a year or two older, his lack of play last season while Carrington got lots of NBA minutes probably means he's equal or further away from being a starting caliber player this year. CJ has no real role or future in Washington which is committed to their youth movement. Next year FVV will be the one who is expiring or trade bait.
CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
Can the Rockets sign a buyout candidate who makes as much as CJ?
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Sheppard+Eason to GoldenState
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings
Houston sign RW at veteran minimum
until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela
at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday
from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun
RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela
at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings
Houston sign RW at veteran minimum
until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela
at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday
from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun
RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela
at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy
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nolian wrote:Sheppard+Eason to GoldenState
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings
Houston sign RW at veteran minimum
until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela
at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday
from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun
RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela
at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy
Serious overvalue on Monk and Kuminga.
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jbk1234 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:penbeast0 wrote:When FVV becomes trade eligible, deal him and Sheppard to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Bub Carrington.
For Houston, CJ can play PG offensively at a high level with Amen handling a lot of the playmaking, Carrington can give a bench playmaker who can distribute and has good size and potential to be the PG of the future instead of Sheppard. But Houston's window with Durant is not going to stay open so they need to have their ducks in a row this year. Houston may have to add some draft capital but not a ridiculous amount.
For Washington, Sheppard should be an upgrade over Carrington for his shooting; he and Tre Johnson will give Washington a lot of floor stretching to go with their athletic forwards while his learning curve will keep them from competing this year. Despite being a year or two older, his lack of play last season while Carrington got lots of NBA minutes probably means he's equal or further away from being a starting caliber player this year. CJ has no real role or future in Washington which is committed to their youth movement. Next year FVV will be the one who is expiring or trade bait.
CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
Can the Rockets sign a buyout candidate who makes as much as CJ?
presumably they will dump someone and open up enough room for vet min for CJ?
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JRoy wrote:nolian wrote:Sheppard+Eason to GoldenState
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings
Houston sign RW at veteran minimum
until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela
at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday
from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun
RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela
at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy
Serious overvalue on Monk and Kuminga.
Yeah as much as I’d love that as a GS fan it’s not happening.
If JK signs the Warriors offer (not the QO) I could see a mid season twist on the Monk/protected 1st offer with Monk going to Houston and DFS to us
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For immediate help I think they can move Steven Adams now
Steven Adams
2026 bulls 2nd
2028 top 10 protected 1st
For
Coby white
With Capela Adams is redundant
White/Thompson/Eason/durant/Sengun
Steven Adams
2026 bulls 2nd
2028 top 10 protected 1st
For
Coby white
With Capela Adams is redundant
White/Thompson/Eason/durant/Sengun
2016 GMAT Blazers
Howard/Nene/
Griffin/M.Leonard/T.Jones
Porter/Marc.Morris/J.Johnson
McCollum/Stauskas/Thompson/Seldon
Lillard/Bayless/DeColo
Howard/Nene/
Griffin/M.Leonard/T.Jones
Porter/Marc.Morris/J.Johnson
McCollum/Stauskas/Thompson/Seldon
Lillard/Bayless/DeColo
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nolian wrote:Sheppard+Eason to GoldenState
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings
Houston sign RW at veteran minimum
until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela
at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday
from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun
RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela
at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy
I like the idea as a Warriors fan, but that's a hell of an overpay by Houston for Monk. Maybe if you replace Eason with Capela/Jeff Green. More aging vets in the GS stew

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Godaddycurse wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
CJ is a buyout candidate and houston is not trading reed for bub
Can the Rockets sign a buyout candidate who makes as much as CJ?
presumably they will dump someone and open up enough room for vet min for CJ?
They're hardcapped at the 1st apron after the Durant trade. I don't believe they're permitted to sign players who are bought and make as much as CJ.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
Can the Rockets sign a buyout candidate who makes as much as CJ?
presumably they will dump someone and open up enough room for vet min for CJ?
They're hardcapped at the 1st apron after the Durant trade. I don't believe they're permitted to sign players who are bought and make as much as CJ.
I thought its if they are above first apron that they cant sign players making above mle
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Unfortunate reality is we don't have many options due to cap constraints, especially for minor stop gaps.
If anything, I think there might be like a 20-30% chance they move on a more premiere player, cashing in some of those picks, but FVV's NTC hurts.
At the end of the day, I think they just roll with Reed, and unless its a disaster, float.
If anything, I think there might be like a 20-30% chance they move on a more premiere player, cashing in some of those picks, but FVV's NTC hurts.
At the end of the day, I think they just roll with Reed, and unless its a disaster, float.

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Godaddycurse wrote:jbk1234 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:
presumably they will dump someone and open up enough room for vet min for CJ?
They're hardcapped at the 1st apron after the Durant trade. I don't believe they're permitted to sign players who are bought and make as much as CJ.
I thought its if they are above first apron that they cant sign players making above mle
With cap holds, the Rockets are above the first apron. They can probably run with 14 players and duck it.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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LarsV8 wrote:Unfortunate reality is we don't have many options due to cap constraints, especially for minor stop gaps.
If anything, I think there might be like a 20-30% chance they move on a more premiere player, cashing in some of those picks, but FVV's NTC hurts.
At the end of the day, I think they just roll with Reed, and unless its a disaster, float.
Sad but true. It's time to throw Reed into the deep end and see if he sinks or swims.
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Reed was the 3rd overall pick. You roll with him and make a move if he is terrible.
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